Rumour Jeremy Finlayson under investigation - 3 game suspension

[Foxx]

I get where you’re coming from

We’d all love to be stronger just by wishing it, but not how nature works.
Nature is defined by things that are stronger because they withstand stress and punishment.

A simple example, but I don’t enjoy being out of breath, or by having muscles that hurt, or feeling bad because an opponent knocked me in my ass.
But that’s how I become fitter, stronger and more athletic.

I’m not saying that I condone racism, sexism, or any discriminatory behaviour, not at all, like you I’ve been a victim to it.

But I’m not going to say that it didn’t ultimately make me a stronger person, in my opinion better equipped to deal with the things that are unavoidable in life like health or family issues.

Nailed it mate.

You're either going to go one way or the other. It's going to build strength and character or depression and bad habits.
Life is the biggest bully. You need to become tough at some point.

 

[Chief]

What is tough?

 

[SuperMal]

How many weeks for Noah Answerth for gesturing to Petty he’s a sook? Should be worthy of a suspension given the stance so many on here think the game should be sanitised.

You really are a very boring person.

 

[SuperMal]

I don't like bullying but it's one of those things that build strength and fortitude.

If we mould a mollycoddled world, we build soft people.
My workplace if full of them. Always calling is sick, etc.

Tell that to the suicides at Duntroon during the 70s.

 

[Foxx]

Tell that to the suicides at Duntroon during the 70s.

That was brutalization in a trapped environment. That's a complete different story right there.

 

[South of the Yarra]

That was brutalization in a trapped environment. That's a complete different story right there.

And the amount of suicides in Aboriginal communities due to racism, abuse and inter generational trauma.

 

[SuperMal]

That was brutalization in a trapped environment. That's a complete different story right there.

Bullying is bullying - it’s psychologically detrimental to any individual - Govts have spent millions trying to reduce its impact in ALL environments.

All on the advice of people infinitely more qualified than you.

Yours is a knucklehead theory.

 

[Foxx]

Bullying is bullying - it’s psychologically detrimental to any individual - Govts have spent millions trying to reduce its impact in ALL environments.

All on the advice of people infinitely more qualified than you.

It depends on the degree of situation and environment. Bullying to brutalization.

Yes bullying adversely affects a lot of people, but in my experiences it had a positive affect. I'd be a worse person in a lot of ways if I didn't get bullied at school.

 

[Vindicater]

Geez I would love to see a Venn diagram of everyone acting so outraged here with those who defend Islam killing LGBTQ folks by hog tying them and throwing them off tall buildings lol

"Islam is our future, it's the religion of peace, do you know how bad Christianity is omg ???? 800 years ago a Christian killed a bunch people, so evil ! When a Muslim executes a LBGTQ they do it out of love. Once Australia is an Islamic state we will truly live in paradise praise Allah"

Meanwhile... A non Muslim uses the "F" word against someone who isn't even gay: " Words are violence! You are literally killing gay people with WORDS!!!"

The paradox of the woke modern left

Which "lefty" actually said this?

 

[Chief]

those who defend Islam killing LGBTQ folks by hog tying them and throwing them off tall buildings

Name names, fella.

 

[buzzhuzz]

Name names, fella.

yeah, I was Pinochets top helicopter pilot and I've never heard this from a lefty

 

[SuperMal]

It depends on the degree of situation and environment. Bullying to brutalization.

Yes bullying adversely affects a lot of people, but in my experiences it had a positive affect. I'd be a worse person in a lot of ways if I didn't get bullied at school.

I won’t argue that physical intimidation can engender an understanding that sometimes you have to stick up for yourself.

But systemised harrassment, intimidation, ridicule and victimisation (We used to call it bastardisation) has an extremely negative effect on most people - whether they realise it or not.

My concern is that your parameters are at the extremes - bullying/mollycoddling.

There’s a world of ‘reasonable behaviour’ between those two.

 

[Biggyd81]

And the amount of suicides in Aboriginal communities due to racism, abuse and inter generational trauma.

Don't think they are topping themselves from being called a nasty word fella, more like the physical and sexual abuse.

 

[Toump Ass]

So you’re against education, learning, …expanding your mind?

Given Finlayson is an indigenous man it is laughable to think that he would require education on not discriminating against people.

It's a bit like the drink driving education my mate did after being caught numerous times pissed behind the wheel.
He already knew it was wrong, he did it anyway because he didn't give a ****.

 

[Underarm]

It depends on the degree of situation and environment. Bullying to brutalization.

Yes bullying adversely affects a lot of people, but in my experiences it had a positive affect. I'd be a worse person in a lot of ways if I didn't get bullied at school.

You don't know what person you would have become if you weren't bullied. You might have been a better person than you are now.

 

[SC_Power]

Bullying is bullying - it’s psychologically detrimental to any individual - Govts have spent millions trying to reduce its impact in ALL environments.

All on the advice of people infinitely more qualified than you.

Yours is a knucklehead theory.

Bullying is bullying by what I expect is your broadly accepted definition, we all would agree, but there is a growing perception that the “blue dot theory” is taking us (near / to / past) a point in many areas of western society where the overall social benefits of removing perceived threats are becoming less clear, and definitions and thresholds are being changed.

The human mind is conditioned to look for threats and concerns. This occurs regardless of how safe or comfortable our immediate world is. The better things get, the more we respond on even the smallest of issues. The size of the problem does not matter, we amplify our emotional reactions to “problems” to fit the degree of stress we expect to experience.

This is good, in so far as it’s helped us get rid of a lot of the sh*t in our world. But there are limits to the benefit.

For “first world problems”, think Uber vs Taxi, think Mobiles vs Home Phone, think Texting vs Email. Ease has not reduced the stress of waiting or accessibility, we simply set a new norm and complain that when it’s not met. “I can’t believe I have to wait 3 mins for an Uber”.

For “real” problems, over centuries its gone from fear of being killed randomly, to fear of being beat up randomly, to fear of being assaulted within the home (sadly DMV is still completely f’d up and a scourge), to fear of being bullied, to fear of being verbally assaulted, to fear of being ostracised/ignored, to dissatisfaction of others expressing differing opinions, and so it goes on, deeper and deeper.
Now we see it where people’s relationships are being harmed because they didn’t press like on a SM update or snap back a photo. Circling back to your post, believe it or not, this is actually being called bullying now.

We look for the next level of dissatisfaction, and even though it’s far less than the worst, we express the same emotional response until it’s eliminated. And then we dive again.

Do we need to eliminate sexism, racism, and other types of discriminatory behaviour? Yes, but the definition of what “eliminate” means is the point where we all start to diverge. If the definition “when one person takes offence”, then we’re going to keep digging down and diving, because of the “blue dot” theory.

 

[South of the Yarra]

Don't think they are topping themselves from being called a nasty word fella, more like the physical and sexual abuse.

The second word is what you should start doing. I suggest you have no idea what the reasons are for suicide in Aboriginal communities. Many of the issues the teenager’s experience are due to severe inter generational trauma and severe racism the individuals and their families have experienced.
Tell me why there had been 8 teenagers in one peaceful community with no violence in their homes.

Why did young Harold die?
What did Louie go through?
What was the pain eating at Janna?
Why did Zita take her life?

 

[Bagger72]

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[SuperMal]

Given Finlayson is an indigenous man it is laughable to think that he would require education on not discriminating against people.

It's a bit like the drink driving education my mate did after being caught numerous times pissed behind the wheel.
He already knew it was wrong, he did it anyway because he didn't give a *.

I wasn’t aware of his background - yes, he would know what discrimination was. Maybe he’s just dumb?

 

[Carringbush2010]

It really doesn't.

It builds stunted, unhappy humans.

Foxx Be the exception to the rule

 

[SuperMal]

Bullying is bullying by what I expect is your broadly accepted definition, we all would agree, but there is a growing perception that the “blue dot theory” is taking us (near / to / past) a point in many areas of western society where the overall social benefits of removing perceived threats are becoming less clear, and definitions and thresholds are being changed.

The human mind is conditioned to look for threats and concerns. This occurs regardless of how safe or comfortable our immediate world is. The better things get, the more we respond on even the smallest of issues. The size of the problem does not matter, we amplify our emotional reactions to “problems” to fit the degree of stress we expect to experience.

This is good, in so far as it’s helped us get rid of a lot of the sh*t in our world. But there are limits to the benefit.

For “first world problems”, think Uber vs Taxi, think Mobiles vs Home Phone, think Texting vs Email. Ease has not reduced the stress of waiting or accessibility, we simply set a new norm and complain that when it’s not met. “I can’t believe I have to wait 3 mins for an Uber”.

For “real” problems, over centuries its gone from fear of being killed randomly, to fear of being beat up randomly, to fear of being assaulted within the home (sadly DMV is still completely f’d up and a scourge), to fear of being bullied, to fear of being verbally assaulted, to fear of being ostracised/ignored, to dissatisfaction of others expressing differing opinions, and so it goes on, deeper and deeper.
Now we see it where people’s relationships are being harmed because they didn’t press like on a SM update or snap back a photo. Circling back to your post, believe it or not, this is actually being called bullying now.

We look for the next level of dissatisfaction, and even though it’s far less than the worst, we express the same emotional response until it’s eliminated. And then we dive again.

Do we need to eliminate sexism, racism, and other types of discriminatory behaviour? Yes, but the definition of what “eliminate” means is the point where we all start to diverge. If the definition “when one person takes offence”, then we’re going to keep digging down and diving, because of the “blue dot” theory.

I agree. I call it the ‘snowflake’ theory…because ultimately that’s how people will want to be treated.

However, not indulging in one person's failure to take responsibility for their feelings is a mile away from allowing one person to call another a ‘fxxxxt’.

 

[SC_Power]

I agree. I call it the ‘snowflake’ theory…because ultimately that’s how people will want to be treated.

However, not indulging in one person's failure to take responsibility for their feelings is a mile away from allowing one person to call another a ‘fxxxxt’.

On that we agree.

 

[Foxx]

You don't know what person you would have become if you weren't bullied. You might have been a better person than you are now.

Maybe, but i know i was self entitled, immature and soft as butter before I was bullied. And unless there was another circuit breaker involved, I would continue to be that way.

 

[jannissary]

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it really helps people take you seriously when you post irrelevant garbage

 

[Bagger72]

it really helps people take you seriously when you post irrelevant garbage

Unfortunately it is everywhere - the behaviour is no different.