Essendon team? wtf= tanking?

[GoldenboyHird_5]

Didn't you read my novel of a post?!

He obviously committed an off field offence or will be a late change in!

 

[retroparty]

My main concern is Watson getting dropped there is no way this should of been the case. The others i can see why they might of been omitted but Watson being dropped is staggering.

There might be an issue in his life ATM which has made him unavailable to play this week. Or he is getting a rest but does not want people to know he is getting rested.

 

[Stants_24_Legend]

We will win by 10 goals now with those guys out...
Bout time Hille got dropped he is terrible.
Watson and Peverill yes do get the ball but they are way too slow.
we need some pace

 

[Stants_24_Legend]

Scott Gumbleton
Kyle Reimers
Jason Winderlich
Angus Monfries
Brent Stanton
Jason Laycock
Henry Slattery
Paddy Ryder
Jay Nash
Andrew Lovett
Heath Hocking

Anyone care to tell me what those blokes have in common?

All played under 100 games and have amazing potential

 

[jnash196]

Late change: Watson for Hird IMO is a 90% chance of happening

 

[Bomber57]

Looks like the board is now picking the team, can't wait until next year

 

[retroparty]

We will win by 10 goals now with those guys out...
Bout time Hille got dropped he is terrible.
Watson and Peverill yes do get the ball but they are way too slow.
we need some pace

well we don't have anymore pace than we did last week. I'd rather have waston and pev than campo and MJ. Waston and pev are more consistent whereas Mj has had a shocker of a season and campo is an old hack

 

[bombersmad75]

houli will want to leave the club

Want have to worrie about that the coach wont be there next year so i guess he will just bite his time. Bit dissappointing that he did not get a game though.

 

[Longy413]

They all play for a bottom 4 side.

You wanted young players in the side, you wanted to lose.

All played under 100 games and have amazing potential

All have either played less than 50 games or are 21 and under.

Looks like the people are getting what they want.

 

[jumpinjimmy]

When I saw your ins and outs my first thoughts were "the tank is on".

 

[DonMania#5]

The board has gone nuts since the sacking.
Even if watson comes back in for Hird, this is not how you treat your best midfielder

 

[hulld]

why? we know he can play he will have a spot next year.

what else does bachar have to do mate???

They all play for a bottom 4 side.

so if we win does that make us a legit finals contender???

My main concern is Watson getting dropped there is no way this should of been the case. The others i can see why they might of been omitted but Watson being dropped is staggering.

we all know he will come in for hirdy. earlier in the year jobe was named as an emergency and then was a late inclusion. he then had a great 5 or 6 games. maybe sheeds is seeing if lightning can strike twice

Looks like the board is now picking the team, can't wait until next year

after hearing what sheeds said during the week about us playing kids you may be right. the only guy that was an inclusion that i would expect to be playing for us next year was ant's boy

 

[Stants_24_Legend]

You wanted young players in the side, you wanted to lose.



All have either played less than 50 games or are 21 and under.

Looks like the people are getting what they want.

Monfries has played 50
So has Winderlich...
so get ya facts right mate

 

[kelvin_sheedy]

Explain to me what it is and where your bitterness comes from kelvin sheedy?

The bitterness comes from finishing bottom 4 - 3 years in a row and playing the same players that have failed over and over and over again.

FFS.... I can maybe understand 1 coming in but to bring in both in on a ground we've struggled for run is pure incompetence.

I've cracked and I've had enough. I've sat through the past few years with hope that things can turn around but there is not much sign of that on the horizon.

It's funny how Sheedy said in the press conference last week that it's time to play the kids yet the ins this week are Hird, Campo, MJ.

 

[jnash196]

Monfries has played 50
So has Winderlich...
so get ya facts right mate

He said or are 21 or younger.

Lesson 1: Learn to read fully
Lesson 2: Don't argue vs. Longy

They will get you a long way on bigfooty

 

[Longy413]

Monfries has played 50
So has Winderlich...
so get ya facts right mate

OR 21 OR YOUNGER

Winderlich hasn't played 50 games.

Pull your head in.

 

[Longy413]

It's funny how Sheedy said in the press conference last week that it's time to play the kids yet the ins this week are Hird, Campo, MJ.

It's funny how you keep ignoring that Hocking will play his first game.

That Hird won't play and Watson will.

That Gumby is playing his third game and Reimers his second.

And that we only have one other kid who is fit enough to play, besides Bradley who has Lloyd, Lucas and Gumby playing in his position.

 

[kelvin_sheedy]

You wanted young players in the side, you wanted to lose..

I wanted young players in win, lose or draw.

I specifically requested no Campo, MJ, JJ, Heff, Bolton in any of the remaining games.

Only way I can see them getting a game is if they announced their retirement during the week and they wanted one farewell game.

It's gross incompetence not to get more games into any of Houli, Bradley, Johns.

 

[Longy413]

It's gross incompetence not to get more games into any of Houli, Bradley, Johns.

There is no spot for Bradley or Johns unless we drop Lloyd, Lucas, Gumby, Michael or Fletcher.

Houli seriously wasn't that good on Sunday. His ball use was rather poor and he was far too rushed at VFL level.

 

[kelvin_sheedy]

It's funny how you keep ignoring that Hocking will play his first game.

That Hird won't play and Watson will.

That Gumby is playing his third game and Reimers his second.

And that we only have one other kid who is fit enough to play, besides Bradley who has Lloyd, Lucas and Gumby playing in his position.

It's also quite funny that we are playing 2 guys in Campo and MJ (slow, past it) that won't be at the club next year.

We're not aiming for a flag so what's the point of them playing?

 

[hulld]

perhaps the board wants to find out if they should be there next year

 

[kelvin_sheedy]

There is no spot for Bradley or Johns unless we drop Lloyd, Lucas, Gumby, Michael or Fletcher.

Houli seriously wasn't that good on Sunday. His ball use was rather poor and he was far too rushed at VFL level.

Hille is out so there's a spot for Bradley. If Ryder is going to play ruck at points in time Lucas/Gumby can go back and let Bradley play forward.

We need to see if he can play forward at AFL level.

Hocking has never been that great at VFL level and has much much less chance of making it than Houli. I'd rather get games into Houli then give Hocking a run.

The kids training and preparation has been nothing less then impeccable and he gets shafted this way be a bitter and senile old man?

 

[Longy413]

It's also quite funny that we are playing 2 guys in Campo and MJ (slow, past it) that won't be at the club next year.

We're not aiming for a flag so what's the point of them playing?

Because they make young players better.

Why play Hird, Lloyd, Lucas etc either then?

Lets roll out Thomas Hird now...

Hille is out so there's a spot for Bradley. If Ryder is going to play ruck at points in time Lucas/Gumby can go back and let Bradley play forward.

Carlton don't have an overly tall forward line.
We don't need the extra tall defender.

Hocking has never been that great at VFL level and has much much less chance of making it than Houli. I'd rather get games into Houli then give Hocking a run.

So Houli plays instead of Hocking and you're happy?

There is no spot for Bradley, so the only bloke missing out is Houli.

You're sooking over that? Bloody hell.
They aren't wrong when they say our supporters are spoilt.

The kids training and preparation has been nothing less then impeccable and he gets shafted this way be a bitter and senile old man?

No, he didn't get a game because he doesn't pick up his opponent, when he has the ball he puts himself under pressure by making bad decisions and ends up either handballing to the wrong option or bombing it high and wide unless he's actually running through the corridor.

Did you see Houli play last week?

 

[hulld]

Hille is out so there's a spot for Bradley. If Ryder is going to play ruck at points in time Lucas/Gumby can go back and let Bradley play forward.

We need to see if he can play forward at AFL level.

Hocking has never been that great at VFL level and has much much less chance of making it than Houli. I'd rather get games into Houli then give Hocking a run.

The kids training and preparation has been nothing less then impeccable and he gets shafted this way be a bitter and senile old man?

gumby is a CHF, forget about him playing in defence. we don't need 3 tall defenders anyway as the matchups will look like this:
fev mal
waite fletch
fisher mcphee
lappin nlm
betts mj
with paddy to go where setanta goes

we know houli has what it takes to cut it at afl level. we need to find out if hocking has it aswell

 

[Walshy_The_Goat]

Just as an outsider looking in, it's obvious that Sheedy's changes to the team are perplexing to say the least, but especially considering you guys are still in contention to play finals. I can understand resting senior players towards the end of the season if your team has no chance of making the finals, but seeing as you're still a minute chance, you'd have greater potential of giving Carlton a shelacking with your best team on the park (Hille, Wato etc.) As the ladder shows, percentage is the most important at present and could be the deciding factor as to whether Essendon is September bound.

Could Sheedy be underestimating Carlton's potential to win or has he just given up?