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[Shaucob_Burjan]

St Kilda is a good trade partner for us, they have the lower pick

 

[Shaucob_Burjan]

 

[Ropable]

In an eyebrow-raising development, Port Adelaide ruckman Ivan Soldo could be on his way out of Alberton just one year after his arrival. Herald Sun journalist Jon Ralph reports Soldo is ‘keen’ to make his way to St Kilda in October, despite being contracted at Port through next season.

The brow raising in question:

 

[raptalia]

A 25 year old with 9 games under his belt? Two of those games were as a substitute. No thanks.

 

[Shaucob_Burjan]

A 25 year old with 9 games under his belt? Two of those games were as a substitute. No thanks.

What if he's better than Narkle and Evans

 

[shewho]

We need to rebuild our forward line. Whatever the outcome of delistings and retirements, we can no longer build our forward line around Dixon and Marshall. That much is obvious.

We can build a forward line around Lukosius and Georgiades. Powell-Pepper, Rioli and Richards would add to that but we still need another classy goal scorer. The two teams that really towelled us up this year had multiple small goal kicking options- Miers, Stengle, Mannagh, Close (and these guys are lining up to take Jack Martin

19

Jack Martin

Age

30

Ht

186cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.2

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

6.3

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

3.7

5star

G

0.9

4star

D

14.9

4star

K

7.9

3star

HB

7.0

4star

M

4.3

4star

T

3.6

4star

G

1.1

5star

D

8.2

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.0

4star

G

0.6

3star

) on the one hand and Rayner, AhChee, Charlie Cameron

23

Charlie Cameron

Age

31

Ht

180cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.1

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

3.7

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.5

5star

D

9.6

2star

K

7.9

3star

HB

1.7

1star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.7

3star

G

1.9

5star

D

9.6

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

4.2

4star

M

1.4

2star

T

3.4

5star

G

1.2

4star

, Kai Lohmann (with McCarthy injured) on the other.

If we want to take the next step we need more than just Lukosius, Richards and a returning SPP.

 

[PortVic]

St Kilda’s pick 24 would be nice, even if we have to give a little back.

24 & 43 for Soldo 36

 

[snozulu]

What if he's better than Narkle and Evans

Get some picks and go to the draft

 

[1954]

If we trade Soldo to the aints can we look forward after he plays 1 or 2 decent games for them to his sister calling out in the rooms after the game `What do you think now (Richmond) Port?' before he injures his knee again ends up in their magoos, and then disappears from sight?

 

[Sewer de Lance]

What if he's better than Narkle and Evans

Ummm…he’s far better than both of these soon to be delisted players.

However, it sounds like Perryman & Richard’s are both getting cold feet. You can’t blame them, I’d be doing the same thing if I was in their shoes.

 

[raptalia]

What if he's better than Narkle and Evans

What if he is not?

 

[Nemisis]

Am I thinking of someone else but was there rumours of Brad not particularly getting along with Ken?

yep, refused to call him Daddy.

 

[Scodges]

Nobody will commit to the club until the coach issue is addressed.


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[FishingRick04]

As of about 2-3 weeks ago, he was flat out told (in simple terms) that they couldn't guarantee he'll be there next year. He personally believes if Hinkley isn't retained he will be gone.

Is retained or isn’t?

 

[Ford Fairlane]

If we trade Soldo to the aints can we look forward after he plays 1 or 2 decent games for them to his sister calling out in the rooms after the game `What do you think now (Richmond) Port?' before he injures his knee again ends up in their magoos, and then disappears from sight?

It was pretty funny at the time though

 

[Ford Fairlane]

I assume the plan would be Marshall forward with soldo as ruck

Good luck to him

You're right, but these things have a way of not working out.

Pretty sure we wanted to play Paddy Ryder as a key forward but he was just too good a ruck not to play there.

 

[Bevoman]

Ummm…he’s far better than both of these soon to be delisted players.

However, it sounds like Perryman & Richard’s are both getting cold feet. You can’t blame them, I’d be doing the same thing if I was in their shoes.

Richards was always a long shot where he used us to get a better offer from the Pies.
Where the Pies are now throwing the proverbial sink at the Perryman (to take him to the other side).

 

[philthy05]

I'd be a bit disappointed if we didn't land Richards just because he fills a big need - if he isn't a star.

Couldn't really care less about Cumming, he's not a need. Perryman is a good player, but wouldn't lose sleep over not getting him. Luko I'd only be a bit bummed about not landing if Marshall retires. So yeah, not so fussed about the player we have been linked with so far.

We desperately need a tall forward who is remotely capable of taking a contested mark, and I'd also like to see us pursue some KPD depth, even a Lewis Young just as someone you could have confidence of doing at least an ok job if AA or BZT go down with injury.

Luko is the only kf likely to make an impact for us available.

Ironically the next best option is already on our list. Soldo. I won’t say he’s a good kf, but he’s certainly no worse than what else is floating around there as options or hardly dwarfed by esava as an option.

Loldo

Not happy about losing number 1 ruck spot at Port but wants to go to St Kilda where he will be behind one of the best ruckman in the comp in Marshall.

Marshall is nowhere near the best ruck in the afl. I have zero issue facing him any week.

What he is , is saints current best kf by a country mile, and one of the best 2nd ruck kf in the league. Saints have preferred using him as a kf / 2nd ruck for years, probably the only thing they’ve gotten right.

Soldo makes sense for them cause he can play ruck, and is quite interchangeable in that he can go forward and take rowans place when he goes in ruck and be a pretty good stand in.

24 & 43 for Soldo 36

Yes


Is 24 realistic for soldo?

Probably not, but it’s the only thing we should trade him for.


We absolutely should front up to saints and say phillipou or pick 24 haven’t be on the table or there’s no deal. We have no issue if they won’t put them on the table, that’s their prerogative. But we shouldn’t be trading soldo unless they are, and make it clear we will walk away and hold him to his contract.

There’s zero reason why we HAVE to let soldo go while contracted other than acquiring talent coming the other way.

 

[Bevoman]

I don't think he would end up coming back. I can see him taking a part-time development role somewhere in Vic, while playing at least a season at Torquay.

I reckon he'll end up living on the Surf Coast. If I had **** off money, I probably would too.

Pies have offered Boak a Dev coach position (if he retires)

 

[Bevoman]

Loldo

Not happy about losing number 1 ruck spot at Port but wants to go to St Kilda where he will be behind one of the best ruckman in the comp in Marshall.

His missus would prefer the hip St Kilda foreshore over Semaphore

 

[Buget]

Luko is the only kf likely to make an impact for us available.

Ironically the next best option is already on our list. Soldo. I won’t say he’s a good kf, but he’s certainly no worse than what else is floating around there as options or hardly dwarfed by esava as an option.




Marshall is nowhere near the best ruck in the afl. I have zero issue facing him any week.

What he is , is saints current best kf by a country mile, and one of the best 2nd ruck kf in the league. Saints have preferred using him as a kf / 2nd ruck for years, probably the only thing they’ve gotten right.

Soldo makes sense for them cause he can play ruck, and is quite interchangeable in that he can go forward and take rowans place when he goes in ruck and be a pretty good stand in.




Yes


Is 24 realistic for soldo?

Probably not, but it’s the only thing we should trade him for.


We absolutely should front up to saints and say phillipou or pick 24 haven’t be on the table or there’s no deal. We have no issue if they won’t put them on the table, that’s their prerogative. But we shouldn’t be trading soldo unless they are, and make it clear we will walk away and hold him to his contract.

There’s zero reason why we HAVE to let soldo go while contracted other than acquiring talent coming the other way.

Soldo… A 28 year old, 3rd ruck, with bad knees for a 19 year old, highly rated midfielder…

Sure. Saints will take that every day…

 

[longdonkey]

I think assuming we have a change of coach I think we are going to have a cleanout of our 20-44 range players. I think anyone whose contract is expiring this year or next is going to be in serious trouble.

Out (12)
Boak retired
Dixon retired
McKenzie retired
Clurey traded future 4th Round pick
Soldo traded 3rd Round pick 43
Houston traded 1st Round pick + future 2nd Round Pick
Williams traded 4th Round pick
F Evans delisted
Scully delisted
McCallum delisted
K Marshall delisted
Narkle delisted

In
Draft 1st Round (Houston)
Draft 2nd Round Pick 36
Draft 3rd Round Pick 43 (Soldo)
Draft 3rd Round Pick 54 used in pick swaps to get Lukosius
Draft 4th Round Pick used in pick swaps to get Lukosius
Lukosius picks to Gold Coast
Cumming free agency
Perryman free agency
Powell-Pepper off long term injury list
Barrett NGA
Montgomery FS
Burgoyne FS
Francou FS
Delisted Free Agent

 

[raptalia]

Nobody will commit to the club until the coach issue is addressed.


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The problem is the players love Ken and the player network will ensure that Ken is not an obstacle to players coming to Alberton. If only the p[layers wanted Ken gone that might ensure that Koch got rid of Ken.

 

[JHF1870]

I think assuming we have a change of coach I think we are going to have a cleanout of our 20-44 range players. I think anyone whose contract is expiring this year or next is going to be in serious trouble.

Out (12)
Boak retired
Dixon retired
McKenzie retired
Clurey traded future 4th Round pick
Soldo traded 3rd Round pick 43
Houston traded 1st Round pick + future 2nd Round Pick
Williams traded 4th Round pick
F Evans delisted
Scully delisted
McCallum delisted
K Marshall delisted
Narkle delisted

In
Draft 1st Round (Houston)
Draft 2nd Round Pick 36
Draft 3rd Round Pick 43 (Soldo)
Draft 3rd Round Pick 54 used in pick swaps to get Lukosius
Draft 4th Round Pick used in pick swaps to get Lukosius
Lukosius picks to Gold Coast
Cumming free agency
Perryman free agency
Powell-Pepper off long term injury list
Barrett NGA
Montgomery FS
Burgoyne FS
Francou FS
Delisted Free Agent

Not a bad assessment but Clurey is worth nothing given he can't get a game.

 

[It Just Is]

I think assuming we have a change of coach I think we are going to have a cleanout of our 20-44 range players. I think anyone whose contract is expiring this year or next is going to be in serious trouble.

Out (12)
Boak retired
Dixon retired
McKenzie retired
Clurey traded future 4th Round pick
Soldo traded 3rd Round pick 43
Houston traded 1st Round pick + future 2nd Round Pick
Williams traded 4th Round pick
F Evans delisted
Scully delisted
McCallum delisted
K Marshall delisted
Narkle delisted

In
Draft 1st Round (Houston)
Draft 2nd Round Pick 36
Draft 3rd Round Pick 43 (Soldo)
Draft 3rd Round Pick 54 used in pick swaps to get Lukosius
Draft 4th Round Pick used in pick swaps to get Lukosius
Lukosius picks to Gold Coast
Cumming free agency
Perryman free agency
Powell-Pepper off long term injury list
Barrett NGA
Montgomery FS
Burgoyne FS
Francou FS
Delisted Free Agent

We can’t bring in 9 teenagers, 7 of them 3rd round picks or lower. Even Richmond won’t be doing that.