Europa Lg Europa League 2024/25 (Winners: Tottenham Hotspur)

[Bradesmaen]

Yay. We were only eliminated from the 1974, 2006, 2022 World Cup tournaments by the eventual winners.

By Mikel Arteta's standards, that's 3 trophies.

 

[largebus]

Ange getting off Brades's shitlist is going to be harder than winning a trophy with Spurs

 

[SM]

It's just a fact. You can hardly say it's on the same level as Aussie Guus when they didn't win a game at the WC. His Ange Ball style just didn't hold up against top sides. Sounds familiar with this PL season. Last night whether by accident or not they decided not to play Ange ball and they won. Carlo Ancelotti has won a lot by being a pragmatic manager, one of the leading pragmatists around.

Er you know he won a trophy with Australia right?

 

[Bradesmaen]

Er you know he won a trophy with Australia right?

Sure the Asian Cup. His 2nd season right? Aussie Guus never had a chance. Osieck took us to a final as well.

I'm not saying Ange is a bad manager, he's good. I just think he's being overrated. Steven Gerrard won the Scottish Premiership.

 

[SM]

Sure the Asian Cup. His 2nd season right? Aussie Guus never had a chance. Osieck took us to a final as well.

I'm not saying Ange is a bad manager, he's good. I just think he's being overrated. Steven Gerrard won the Scottish Premiership.

I was just pointing it out as you seemed oddly fixated on a World Cup campaign he was parachuted into with a very raw squad rather than the noteworthy success he had once he developed the side.

 

[_Mike_]

How can you be measured by something you’ve never had? What a clown response

Spurs last won a division title in 61, before it was renamed to the EPL. Have had opportunity in the Champions league after winning the Carlisle cup in 08.

But yeah when you can’t string together a resonance rebuttal make it personal.

 

[Bradesmaen]

I was just pointing it out as you seemed oddly fixated on a World Cup campaign he was parachuted into with a very raw squad rather than the noteworthy success he had once he developed the side.

I was pointing out falsehoods

 

[SM]

I was pointing out falsehoods

You responded to someone saying Ange had one of the best Australian sides by quoting stats from the start of his reign. You're either being deliberately disingenuous to make a fight over nothing or you're completely misunderstanding the point.

 

[SM]

Spurs last won a division title in 61, before it was renamed to the EPL. Have had opportunity in the Champions league after winning the Carlisle cup in 08.

But yeah when you can’t string together a resonance rebuttal make it personal.

Doesn't seem like you follow the league particularly closely if you think winning the league cup was the path into the champions league.. Seems weird to pop up now of all times to take a pop at the club you support.

 

[RPCB]

 

[hawkman]

And still Essendon won't be able to win a final

 

[TY24]

Doesn't seem like you follow the league particularly closely if you think winning the league cup was the path into the champions league

I think you’ve completely misunderstood his post

Pretty sure he means since their last trophy (2008 EFL Cup), they’ve had an opportunity to win the UCL.

 

[Bradesmaen]

You responded to someone saying Ange had one of the best Australian sides by quoting stats from the start of his reign. You're either being deliberately disingenuous to make a fight over nothing or you're completely misunderstanding the point.

Ok.

 

[Peter Sidorkiewicz]

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That's the funniest thing I've seen

 

[SM]

I think you’ve completely misunderstood his post

Pretty sure he means since their last trophy (2008 EFL Cup), they’ve had an opportunity to win the UCL.

They've had the opportunity to win the PL and other trophies since then too so bit weird to single out the UCL if that was his point.

 

[largebus]

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

Yep, 9 goals against in 3 WC games without a win is elite.

In fairness that side was fairly ordinary in regards talent. The Chile game off to poor start and were down 2-0 after 15 mins. But then surprisingly really took to them after. Only a late goal sealed it for Chile. Next game against the Dutch we gave them a huge scare when there was a gulf of talent between the squads. Never seen an Aussie team scare a world power like that.

Guus’ teams was more talented than either Japan or Croatia in ‘06. That was a side full of players playing in top leagues

 

[Bradesmaen]

In fairness that side was fairly ordinary in regards talent. The Chile game off to poor start and were down 2-0 after 15 mins. But then surprisingly really took to them after. Only a late goal sealed it for Chile. Next game against the Dutch we gave them a huge scare when there was a gulf of talent between the squads. Never seen an Aussie team scare a world power like that.

Guus’ teams was more talented than either Japan or Croatia in ‘06. That was a side full of players playing in top leagues

I know.

 

[SM]

I know.

Ok

 

[hawkman]

I'm still trying to work out how after United looked so inept going forward they managed to score so many goals in the knockout rounds

 

[Shoei]

Total revisionism.

Celtic were ****ed when he took over.

Rangers were huge preseason favorites and he rebuilt the squad (himself) on a shoe string out of Asia after it was gutted when he arrived.

Check notes - Against an undefeated Rangers side the previous year, a side now dubbed the invincibles in Scotland.

A Rangers side he beat in his first season, who in that year beat Dortmund and Leipzig to get to the Europa League final, losing it on penalties…

Checks notes - Lost Edouard, Ajer, Christie etc the week he signed.

Checks notes - Replaced them with no marks at the time - Kyogo, Maeda, Hatate, Jota, O’Reilly

Most of whom he personally scouted and signed.


You only need to check out the Celtic responses to when he was appointed

Claiming Celtic spending x5 the total amount the rest of the entire SPL combined did on player transfers in Ange's first season in charge as a "shoe-string" budget certainly is a take.

Ange is a good manager and has had decent success. Winning the Europa is a great achievement for him (as was the Asian Cup), but there's no need to glaze him, making his achievements out to be something more than they are.

I'm still trying to work out how after United looked so inept going forward they managed to score so many goals in the knockout rounds

-12 GA in the Premier League this season, failed to score in 6 of their last 10 games against Premier League opposition.

United not looking inept is the exception this season.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

I'm still trying to work out how after United looked so inept going forward they managed to score so many goals in the knockout rounds

In a season where we've failed to beat Leicester, Arsenal, Newcastle, Brighton (so far), Palace, Fulham, Bournemouth, Chelsea, Nott Forest, Liverpool and Wolves.

Somehow United have lost to us 4 times.

 

[Topkent]

Don't think Ange is in the top tier of managers that's fair to say, but I would love to see his style with unlimited talent at like Bayern or Barca.

His level is at a fun side like Atalanta, Dortmund, Rennes etc.

 

[Bradesmaen]

Ok

We agree

 

[FreoRicci]

Don't think Ange is in the top tier of managers that's fair to say, but I would love to see his style with unlimited talent at like Bayern or Barca.

His level is at a fun side like Atalanta, Dortmund, Rennes etc.

Always said Spurs don’t deserve him.
If they really gave him the time and money, he ll put in such an incredible style. He’s loyal, honest and knows he can take it up to the top.
I mean the EPL right now is only Liverpool, Arsenal and Man City. Realistically.

If he gets good transfer budget, there’s no reason he can push Spurs to top 4 again.

He got them back into the UCL. Don’t get why getting 17th matters if he got the Europa league and Spurs back into Champions League. The league results shouldn’t really matter in the scheme of things