Opinion Non-Crows AFL 12: It's the confectionery with 1000 uses

[Geoffa32]

I don't see how you could technically nail him for having anti-semitic views, when it was a "guest" on his show that espoused all of them. Should Tony Jones have got the sack for having nutters on Q&A?

I guess it depends on the tone of the interview how supportive Tredders is.

And of course he will have a guest on to support Israel for balance.....

 

[jenny61_99]

sooooo.... non comedians can punch down?

He has a funny shaped head - casual observation
His head looks like a potato - casual observation
"Hey Mr Potato Head" - punching down?

Jen, if you can, hand on heart, say you've never laughed at an Irish joke or a blonde joke EVER in your life, I will stop replying about this topic.

You missed the tongue in cheek approach I'm guessing... Mr Pugsley didn't.

Edit: My comment about punching down was purely about comedians. You seem to have extrapolated that somehow to life in general ( which I have not commented on).

 

[jenny61_99]

She only laughs at blond jokes.

She is blond.... ish.... does that count?

 

[FR0GGY]

Butters holding out to free agency next year it seems. Port might only get band 1 compo if the contract he will get is huge and that might be unders again for them even if they are a bottom 4 side as he's worth multiple 1sts imo.

Port have said they’ll match any deal he’s given apparently, so would have to be a trade.

 

[Redline]

I think Port and the AFL will let Tredrea keep going down this path for a bit until he has lost most of the support he has left. I am sure they want him gone now but don't want legal challenges and member unrest.

 

[Multiballz]

I guess it depends on the tone of the interview how supportive Tredders is.

And of course he will have a guest on to support Israel for balance.....

Anti-semetic or anti-Israel?

I know it is unprecedented territory for this league, but having a Board member who supports anti Israeli views is not a great look for the club or the AFL.

Ports sponsors may take a dim view being associated with it as well.


One of the big taboos in PR....

There would be a clause about Board Member conduct and racial vilification. Given Port's stance on racial vilification in the AFL, they are hypocrites if they don't remove him now.


Also quite questionable about how effective Tredrea can be on that Board now. He would effectively be mothballed. No one on that Board is listening to his opinions from now on.

How is knocking Israel racial vilification?

 

[GreyCrow]

Anti-semetic or anti-Israel?


How is knocking Israel racial vilification?

its presenting an alternative view of history as fact ie saying the Jews controlled the narrative of the war

Sure a conspiracy theory comes in many guises but the root idea is anti-semetic

The post features comments from a guest on the former Port Adelaide captain's new podcast, who says Zionists were responsible for "controlling World War II", and that Mossad was behind the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

 

[Multiballz]

its presenting an alternative view of history as fact ie saying the Jews controlled the narrative of the war

Sure a conspiracy theory comes in many guises but the root idea is anti-semetic

The post features comments from a guest on the former Port Adelaide captain's new podcast, who says Zionists were responsible for "controlling World War II", and that Mossad was behind the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

Ah I see, I missed those quotes.
Still not entierely sure I agree, as "Zionism" isnt exactly a race or necessarily Jewish.

 

[BRL121]

Traditional: "He is a blond." "She is a blonde."

Modern (American English): "He is a blond." "She is a blond."

Modern (British English): "He is a blonde." "She is a blonde"

I dont speak traditional either

Well, that's your problem.

 

[cmndstab]

Ah I see, I missed those quotes.
Still not entierely sure I agree, as "Zionism" isnt exactly a race or necessarily Jewish.

Mossad is Israel's national intelligence agency, though. It's pretty clear his guest was saying "Jews did the holocaust".

The guest also said that Israel is a fake state that was behind the creation of ISIS, which apparently really stands for "Israeli Specialist Intelligence Service" (lol)

I'm no fan of Israel, but those are pretty outrageous statements.

Edit: Ah, I see, your point was whether this is inherently antisemitic or simply anti-Israel. Given that there are long-established far-right conspiracy theories about Jews either orchestrating or outright fabricating the Holocaust, I think we can assume it is the former.

 

[spenze]

Port have said they’ll match any deal he’s given apparently, so would have to be a trade.

It kinda gets interesting then if the other team (Geelong) only have the one first to give. I'm not sure you can go to the "we'll put you in the draft" threat if you've matched a bid. I mean by the rules, yeah you can but the outcome from it is a PR disaster for Port

 

[Multiballz]

Mossad is Israel's national intelligence agency, though. It's pretty clear his guest was saying "Jews did the holocaust".

The guest also said that Israel is a fake state that was behind the creation of ISIS, which apparently really stands for "Israeli Specialist Intelligence Service" (lol)

I'm no fan of Israel, but those are pretty outrageous statements.

Edit: Ah, I see, your point was whether this is inherently antisemitic or simply anti-Israel. Given that there are long-established far-right conspiracy theories about Jews either orchestrating or outright fabricating the Holocaust, I think we can assume it is the former.

Yeah, I seem to have wrongly assumed it was comments made in regard to present day events. I should have listened to the interview before making a call(not that I really made one anyway) either way.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Sure he’s taken a step back but he’s also one of the youngest captains in the AFL. You’d be kidding if you said he wouldn’t make our best team.

Going missing in finals not sure that’s a Rozee thing, more of a Port Adelaide thing…

Leading from the front in that regard...

 

[FR0GGY]

It kinda gets interesting then if the other team (Geelong) only have the one first to give. I'm not sure you can go to the "we'll put you in the draft" threat if you've matched a bid. I mean by the rules, yeah you can but the outcome from it is a PR disaster for Port

Yeah not as if Geelong would trade out their top pick and “say oh well we only have pick 25 left”, I’m sure they wouldn’t do that.

 

[spenze]

Yeah not as if Geelong would trade out their top pick and “say oh well we only have pick 25 left”, I’m sure they wouldn’t do that.

Always fair and equitable, that is what I keep hearing from the clubs who have had their stars move to Geelong. The Bulldogs are still gushing about how they got overs for Smith

 

[rocket18]

A lot of them were in the audience!

More of them were on the panel though.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

What would be funnier?

A Port loss or a Carlton loss?

 

[MatthewB]

not surprised

 

[FR0GGY]

Never tear us apart…

 

[I Lost My Keays]

What would be funnier?

A Port loss or a Carlton loss?

Port 100% - Carlton are injury depleted

Also McGovern to kick 7

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

not surprised

Yeah, 1st step to removal.

Wont be an issue as they can payout his remaining board fees with a promissory note.

 

[spenze]

I hope he is removed, he'll be great on the radio for the after match calls when Port lose

 

[chazwazza]

I would assume Koch has Jewish heritage, Tredrea would have to be totally naive to think this was a good idea, that said, free speech etc etc etc.
Interesting timing in the news cycle with the outcome of the ABC legal outcome today which was totally warranted.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

 

[Mr_Moogle]

What would be funnier?

A Port loss or a Carlton loss?

Answer is always Port.