MRP / Trib. Tom Lynch -How many?

[Makeshft_Mauler]

wouldnt be a richmond player tribunal thread without people fighting over bloody tom stewart again huh


Im intrigued how they managed to grade it as severe impact though, considering no injury, he didnt come off for concussion check as far as i can recall and just played on and took his free right?

really this just shows the grading matrix is cooked and should be done away with or seperated into football and non football acts.

 

[Ancient Tiger]

No, I’m saying he lined him/the ball up thinking Prestia would take possession of it. Prestia didn’t, he got it badly wrong, smashed him high, and got rubbed out for a month, rightly so.

Your varnish drinking friends equated it to murder, thinking there was some sort of intent before the game started to decapitate Dion Prestia. As though he was the second coming of Ron Barassi or something. It wasn’t. It was an act of attempted in game aggression that went wrong. No different to dozens of other suspendible actions. Heavy tackles or bumps or whatever. They are calculated risks players take to commit a footballing act, that they f**k up, and they pay the price.


You’re defending someone who’s gone ‘I’m just going to whack this bloke in the head for no other reason than he’s holding me and I can’t get a kick’ on the basis that it could have done serious damage but through absolutely nothing but pure luck, it didn’t. Even though he has quite literally struck him in the head. Players have been suspended for as long as I have been watching the game for striking, ALL other parts of the body, and doing no damage at all. And you’re saying because he hasn’t injured him, this is no big deal.

Lynch stated immediately after the game he had no intention in really hurting Butts and that he was frustrated he was being held onto all day with no free kicks from the umpire. His open hand to the back of his upper back/shoulders and glancing his head is exactly the result you would expect with the description given. However, the frenzy of the media and social media means that no one believes him and everyone believes he was "just lucky" he didn't really hurt him, exactly as you are stating.
In life, you are punished for the outcome of your actions. If you attempt to kill someone but don't you get done for attempted murder and not murder, which is a far lesser sentence. You literally want him to get the same punishment as if he hit the guy and concussed him, which didn't happen. That is clearly ridiculous but the frenzy is so great, it still may happen.

 

[PhatBoy]

wouldnt be a richmond player tribunal thread without people fighting over bloody tom stewart again huh


Im intrigued how they managed to grade it as severe impact though, considering no injury, he didnt come off for concussion check as far as i can recall and just played on and took his free right?

really this just shows the grading matrix is cooked and should be done away with or seperated into football and non football acts.

Just to be clear having given you the benefit of the doubt that you’re a decent poster, I had no problem whatsoever with Stewart getting a heavy suspension.

I just remember the pure level of sanctimony of AP among a group of others so I’m enjoying seeing him try to manoeuvre his way through his own posting shitshow

 

[PhatBoy]

Lynch stated immediately after the game he had no intention in really hurting Butts and that he was frustrated he was being held onto all day with no free kicks from the umpire. His open hand to the back of his upper back/shoulders and glancing his head is exactly the result you would expect with the description given. However, the frenzy of the media and social media means that no one believes him and everyone believes he was "just lucky" he didn't really hurt him, exactly as you are stating.
In life, you are punished for the outcome of your actions. If you attempt to kill someone but don't you get done for attempted murder and not murder, which is a far lesser sentence. You literally want him to get the same punishment as if he hit the guy and concussed him, which didn't happen. That is clearly ridiculous but the frenzy is so great, it still may happen.

So. Stewart said the same thing. Big deal.

That’s everything open and shut then.

It’s ok everyone.

The mushroom woman didn’t want to poison anyone, no need for deliberation

I honestly don’t really care what he gets. If you read my posts I’ve never even said how many weeks he should get. But it was high, it was forceful, it was a strike, it was deliberate, it was off the ball. The only thing that didn’t happen was an injury. Considering the volume of players who have been suspended for 1-2 weeks for strikes to the chest or stomach that have done absolutely nothing and not even had the potential to do anything, you shouldn’t be surprised if he gets a decent whack irrespective of injury.

 

[ReturningHawk]

Another stupid post because Tom Lynch did NOT hit him in the face with his open hand. It hit him in the upper back and neck that then slipped onto the back of his head. So why even mention an open hand to the face when it didn't even occur? Because you're daft, that's why.

His hand “slipped” into the back of his head. Now we have truly heard it all.

 

[Aristotle Pickett the3rd]

Tom Stewart rightly got suspended but also had the understandable defence to at least mitigate the suspension to what it ended up being, that his action, reckless and dangerous though it was, was in play and not a decision to do something completely designed to vent his frustration, and your point was related to cleanliness of record.

I’ll repeat: did his hitherto spotless record stop you and your ilk calling for him to be essentially hanged and have his head displayed on London Bridge to serve as a warning to any other player who dared get an aggressive action wrong.

Why should Lynch’s reasonable record be used as an excuse now. You want people to adopt a soft stance on him for a lack of indiscretions but you’ve not done that before.

Lynch never caused brain trauma to anyone.

 

[Ancient Tiger]

wouldnt be a richmond player tribunal thread without people fighting over bloody tom stewart again huh


Im intrigued how they managed to grade it as severe impact though, considering no injury, he didnt come off for concussion check as far as i can recall and just played on and took his free right?

really this just shows the grading matrix is cooked and should be done away with or seperated into football and non football acts.

This is exactly the argument that Richmond should be taking to the tribunal. The rules state that potential to cause injury apply to off the ball incidents where wild swings involving a closed fist will be still graded as severe even if there is no injury. Tom did not have a closed fist and so using the AFL's own rules he can argue that the tribunal cannot use the potential to cause injury. It will certainly be a test case.

 

[Makeshft_Mauler]

Just to be clear having given you the benefit of the doubt that you’re a decent poster, I had no problem whatsoever with Stewart getting a heavy suspension.

I just remember the pure level of sanctimony of AP among a group of others so I’m enjoying seeing him try to manoeuvre his way through his own posting shitshow

no harm, i just think its funny it keeps popping up every time theres a richmond player in trouble with the mro

your right though

there has been a lot of excuses being made across the internet for what i would have though is a pretty inexcusable act

 

[Ancient Tiger]

His hand “slipped” into the back of his head. Now we have truly heard it all.

If it was a full blooded blow to the back of the head he would have stayed down for the count or do you think otherwise?

 

[SuperFastMonk]

I see what I’m dealing with here. You’re not stupid, you just have bad luck thinking.

Did you have a look at the incident?

 

[FreddyTwoShoes]

I’d love to meet whoever caused it to you. They did an incredibly effective job it seems based on some of the shit you post.

No, Lynch didn’t. Stewart never deliberately struck anyone off the ball, either, and never had anyone defending him saying he should get off or that he did nothing wrong or that he he was frustrated or that he needed to be umpired better or that he was unlucky or whatever.

His own fans simply said he stuffed up and should cop it sweet, and opposition fans invented a conspiracy that he somehow moved the magnets so that he could do it on purpose - hell if he can orchestrate and pull that off he’s in the wrong game playing AFL for $700k a year.

Do you remember the suggestion afterwards that Tigers players would line up Stewart next time they played, as payback for the incredibly heinous crime he had committed to one of their own?
Yep, it never happened. The only people outraged at the Dion Prestia incident were numpty fans. Players saw it for what it was - a footy action gone wrong.

It really is fun seeing AP (and others) try to wriggle out of this one. Extreme hypocrisy.

 

[Capt Haddock]

Lynch never caused brain trauma to anyone.

AFL watching public would disagree with you.

 

[Ancient Tiger]

AFL watching public would disagree with you.

Who did he cause brain trauma to then?

 

[Daka]

Dion Prestia also bashed a bloke over the summer but thats been conveniently swept under the rug

Something down at Geelong may have been swept under the rug, supporters from your club should be the last of ppl throwing stones.

 

[Capt Haddock]

Who did he cause brain trauma to then?

Well, Richmond fans for starters.

 

[Wojcinski]

Something down at Geelong may have been swept under the rug, supporters from your club should be the last of ppl throwing stones.

What was swept under the rug? Or do you mean suppressed by the courts? I totally get that you wouldn't understand the difference though

 

[Daka]

What was swept under the rug? Or do you mean suppressed by the courts? I totally get that you wouldn't understand the difference though

I wasn't even talking about that, it was about salary cap stuff expecting a fine? yet we have heard nothing about it since? where has that news gone? also Prestia didn't bash a bloke and there is no evidence to suggest he did from what I've read.

 

[TY24]

also Prestia didn't bash a bloke and there is no evidence to suggest he did from what I've read.

 

[Daka]

Yeah, they weren't charged? that's not evidence.

 

[TY24]

Yeah, they weren't charged? that's not evidence.

Haven’t been charged yet, doesn’t mean they’re innocent

Investigation is still ongoing.

AFL stars questioned and released amid ‘ongoing’ investigation into buck’s party brawl

AFL stars questioned and released amid ‘ongoing’ investigation into buck’s party brawl

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[Daka]

Haven’t been charged yet, doesn’t mean they’re innocent

Investigation is still ongoing.

AFL stars questioned and released amid ‘ongoing’ investigation into buck’s party brawl

AFL stars questioned and released amid ‘ongoing’ investigation into buck’s party brawl

www.foxsports.com.au

No, it doesn't but it's not guilty until proven innocent?
that's exactly what Geelong supporters preaching.

 

[smasha]

How many?
The answer is two premierships won in 2019 and 2020.

Nice trivia question op.

Lol.

 

[TY24]

No, it doesn't but it's not guilty until proven innocent?
that's exactly what Geelong supporters preaching.

You said there’s no evidence to suggest he did; being investigated for it and the investigation continuing after he was questioned certainly suggests there’s a case to be answered for.

 

[Daka]

You said there’s no evidence to suggest he did; being investigated for it and the investigation continuing after he was questioned certainly suggests there’s a case to be answered for.

if the investigation turns out their guilty than they will be dealt with than won't they? but the Cats supporters said it was swept under the carpet, if the investigation is on-going than it hasn't been swept under the carpet like he was claiming.

 

[FreddyTwoShoes]

I wasn't even talking about that, it was about salary cap stuff expecting a fine? yet we have heard nothing about it since? where has that news gone? also Prestia didn't bash a bloke and there is no evidence to suggest he did from what I've read.

Re salary cap: Here’s a handy hint. Don’t believe every sound bite by pundits whose job it is to generate clicks.
You’re welcome.