List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
• (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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[kingerzz]

Everyone would bid for pick one though right?

I don't think so, every team would have a finite amount of points to use and each bid would push the price of pick 1 up. Obviously rules would need to be figured out regarding how much deficit you can go into for the following season (if at all).

In an ordinary year finishing last you'd have 4,093 points in total, 2nd would have 3,515, 3rd would have 3,156 & 4th would have 2,886. That means only the bottom three teams could bid on pick 1 without going into deficit (assuming each owns its 1st, 2nd & 3rd rd picks).

 

[Eastern Rangers]

Yes Ralph is a w***er but if they are genuinely after a small forward and prepared to pay for it, Liam Ryan to Gold Coast with salary paid would make a trade very palatable for both teams.

8, Davies for 21, 30, 48, Ryan and no bids.

Anything elsewhere you want to offer up to Gold Coast or did you just not look at our list turnover requirements?.

 

[eaglevision]

Anything elsewhere you want to offer up to Gold Coast or did you just not look at our list turnover requirements?.

What would those requirements be?

 

[southcoast]

What would those requirements be?

Footballers?

 

[tigger_ferret]

What do people think about this as a complete over hall of the draft system.

Every team is allocated a set number of points (determined by draft index) based upon their picks after free agency and the trade period is complete.

Every pick is then auctioned off with the starting value of that pick being allocated to the original owner of that pick. For example pick 1 would be auctioned starting with 3,000 points with WCE the starting bid.

A minimum bid increase amount is applied (say 5% of pick value - 150 for pick 1 initially) and teams have 30 seconds to bid for the pick which resets after each new bid.

If a team bids (say Essendon) then pick one would now be 3,150 with a new minimum bid required of 158 (rounded up). IF no other bids and Essendon use the pick to bid on say Annable Brisbane would then have to match this new increased points system minus a 10% discount (is this the discount?) which would be 2,835. This means academy players that are good enough could force the academy team to pay a large portion of their draft points to obtain them. If Brisbane pass then Essendon get the player they think are worth the extra points.

If Brisbane accept then their existing picks are used up corresponding to that value (2,835). West Coast becomes the new pick 2 starting bid as everyone's 'picks' (not points) are moved back (and forward for the Brisbane picks absorbed). In this system WCE maintain their draft points and don't lose the value of the 1st pick because they have their total points to bid on for the remaining picks.

If we're going down the route of an even more compromised draft I think this sort of system allows the bottom teams to maintain their draft 'purchasing power' so to speak and allows for a better allocation of draft talent.

Obviously this would be quite complex and would need to consider how long it would take ect with the bidding process adding to the draft timing but I think this would also add intrigue to the draft also.

Interested to get peoples thoughts on this idea?

TLDR

Way too complex, the average fan would have no hope of understanding what is going on

 

[kingerzz]

True but they've already made it complex anyway with all the academies now - at least this makes it more equitable for each team.

 

[Donkers]

Why is Phillips not cutting the mustard at North? Is he a turnover merchant/bad skills?

Not big/strong enough for his primary role and can only kick 40 odd metres.

 

[mattyc75]

What do people think about this as a complete over hall of the draft system.

Every team is allocated a set number of points (determined by draft index) based upon their picks after free agency and the trade period is complete.

Every pick is then auctioned off with the starting value of that pick being allocated to the original owner of that pick. For example pick 1 would be auctioned starting with 3,000 points with WCE the starting bid.

A minimum bid increase amount is applied (say 5% of pick value - 150 for pick 1 initially) and teams have 30 seconds to bid for the pick which resets after each new bid.

If a team bids (say Essendon) then pick one would now be 3,150 with a new minimum bid required of 158 (rounded up). IF no other bids and Essendon use the pick to bid on say Annable Brisbane would then have to match this new increased points system minus a 10% discount (is this the discount?) which would be 2,835. This means academy players that are good enough could force the academy team to pay a large portion of their draft points to obtain them. If Brisbane pass then Essendon get the player they think are worth the extra points.

If Brisbane accept then their existing picks are used up corresponding to that value (2,835). West Coast becomes the new pick 2 starting bid as everyone's 'picks' (not points) are moved back (and forward for the Brisbane picks absorbed). In this system WCE maintain their draft points and don't lose the value of the 1st pick because they have their total points to bid on for the remaining picks.

If we're going down the route of an even more compromised draft I think this sort of system allows the bottom teams to maintain their draft 'purchasing power' so to speak and allows for a better allocation of draft talent.

Obviously this would be quite complex and would need to consider how long it would take ect with the bidding process adding to the draft timing but I think this would also add intrigue to the draft also.

Interested to get peoples thoughts on this idea?

It's too long, didn't read it all

 

[Kapowie1]

True but they've already made it complex anyway with all the academies now - at least this makes it more equitable for each team.

I liked your idea!! Full disclosure, I had a gummy about an hour ago and at this point in time I’m agreeing with every post. Even the psychotic ones

 

[LewyBroome]

The Patterson disrespect is unreal. Closest thing to NWM mkII. Would take him above Sharp in a heartbeat.

 

[Wedgetailed Westerner]

You should propose us bidding pick 1 on Dean this year and pick 1 on Walker next year.
That'd really throw the cat amongst the proverbial pigeons.

Hold my beer

 

[Goroyals22]

Why is Phillips not cutting the mustard at North? Is he a turnover merchant/bad skills?

Doesn’t fit into Clarkson style with the midfielders ahead of him in their line up…

Is more a handball than a kicker so could be value as an inside mid. Does tackle which I’m sure we would frown on.

 

[Altum Volantes]

That and not existing in the first place.

Is this Beau McCleary any relation to Mitch McCleary from Channel 7?

 

[eaglevision]

Is this Beau McCleary any relation to Mitch McCleary from Channel 7?

Beau McClure

 

[lusheslewis]

What do people think about this as a complete over hall of the draft system.

Every team is allocated a set number of points (determined by draft index) based upon their picks after free agency and the trade period is complete.

Every pick is then auctioned off with the starting value of that pick being allocated to the original owner of that pick. For example pick 1 would be auctioned starting with 3,000 points with WCE the starting bid.

A minimum bid increase amount is applied (say 5% of pick value - 150 for pick 1 initially) and teams have 30 seconds to bid for the pick which resets after each new bid.

If a team bids (say Essendon) then pick one would now be 3,150 with a new minimum bid required of 158 (rounded up). IF no other bids and Essendon use the pick to bid on say Annable Brisbane would then have to match this new increased points system minus a 10% discount (is this the discount?) which would be 2,835. This means academy players that are good enough could force the academy team to pay a large portion of their draft points to obtain them. If Brisbane pass then Essendon get the player they think are worth the extra points.

If Brisbane accept then their existing picks are used up corresponding to that value (2,835). West Coast becomes the new pick 2 starting bid as everyone's 'picks' (not points) are moved back (and forward for the Brisbane picks absorbed). In this system WCE maintain their draft points and don't lose the value of the 1st pick because they have their total points to bid on for the remaining picks.

If we're going down the route of an even more compromised draft I think this sort of system allows the bottom teams to maintain their draft 'purchasing power' so to speak and allows for a better allocation of draft talent.

Obviously this would be quite complex and would need to consider how long it would take ect with the bidding process adding to the draft timing but I think this would also add intrigue to the draft also.

Interested to get peoples thoughts on this idea?

I like this idea but instead use a sealed-bid auction e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vickrey_auction and instead of bidding on picks just have clubs nominate a player and bid on them.

For example, whoever has the most points nominates a player and every club submits a secret bid (if they want to). If no one else bids you must sign the player but you get them for free. Keep going until every club passes.

 

[Smotie2]

What do people think about this as a complete over hall of the draft system.

Every team is allocated a set number of points (determined by draft index) based upon their picks after free agency and the trade period is complete.

Every pick is then auctioned off with the starting value of that pick being allocated to the original owner of that pick. For example pick 1 would be auctioned starting with 3,000 points with WCE the starting bid.

A minimum bid increase amount is applied (say 5% of pick value - 150 for pick 1 initially) and teams have 30 seconds to bid for the pick which resets after each new bid.

If a team bids (say Essendon) then pick one would now be 3,150 with a new minimum bid required of 158 (rounded up). IF no other bids and Essendon use the pick to bid on say Annable Brisbane would then have to match this new increased points system minus a 10% discount (is this the discount?) which would be 2,835. This means academy players that are good enough could force the academy team to pay a large portion of their draft points to obtain them. If Brisbane pass then Essendon get the player they think are worth the extra points.

If Brisbane accept then their existing picks are used up corresponding to that value (2,835). West Coast becomes the new pick 2 starting bid as everyone's 'picks' (not points) are moved back (and forward for the Brisbane picks absorbed). In this system WCE maintain their draft points and don't lose the value of the 1st pick because they have their total points to bid on for the remaining picks.

If we're going down the route of an even more compromised draft I think this sort of system allows the bottom teams to maintain their draft 'purchasing power' so to speak and allows for a better allocation of draft talent.

Obviously this would be quite complex and would need to consider how long it would take ect with the bidding process adding to the draft timing but I think this would also add intrigue to the draft also.

Interested to get peoples thoughts on this idea?

**** me. How about it just go back to what it was.

Last team pick 1. Premiership team pick 18.
Father son is a pick somewhere late.

thie nga shit is compromised to help the northern clubs. It's over. They've been helped.

**** that shit off now and the donkey it rode in on.

You want the best player or a player you've invested in an academy. Trade picks or a player for them to get a higher pick. If you cant or clubs won't, then tough t***ies.

 

[twce13]

Why hold onto fs tho? Such a amateur rule , afl fans need to grow up and accept a kid of a player they loved might play elsewhere. It literally happens in every other sport.

Pick integrity or romanticism. You can’t have both.

 

[Elite Pete]

 

[FKASC]

Would love McCreery.

Would hate Phillips, absolute potato. I guess he’d prop up the Beagles though.

 

[Bender_]

Rather Bear McCreary.

 

[southcoast]

On Mid Week Tackle Ralphy said Judd McVee and his partner (AFLW player at Carlton I believe) want to stay in Vic.

Melb obviously not floating McVee's boat if he still hasn't signed a contract which has apparently been in front of him for a while.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Melb obviously not floating McVee's boat if he still hasn't signed a contract which has apparently been in front of him for a while.

Why would you sign now, he'll wait and see who they appoint you'd imagine. Will then have talks about how that coach see's his role moving forward and then either sign or jump.

 

[Deepthroat]

Why hold onto fs tho? Such a amateur rule , afl fans need to grow up and accept a kid of a player they loved might play elsewhere. It literally happens in every other sport.

Pick integrity or romanticism. You can’t have both.

Happy to have it but instead of a discount the team pays a premium for the kid.

People seem to miss a massive point on F/S and Academy kids. Due to them being tied to a club, it means the club has an opportunity to have focused development and provide additional support to the kid through their underage years. It is why so many of these kids can come onto their lists and make an immediate impact.

They are not a number in a group of underage kids under the same system as one another. They are receiving more help and development.

Look at the Ashcroft's. Both would have been part of the Lions program, with access to mentors, facilities, select game style that means that the day after draft night they are walking into a club with a lot more familiarity than a kid who was selected the previous night by any old club.

This should be attracting a premium on the draft points, not a discount.

 

[PremiershipNo4]

Keep Shuey as midfield coach, so he can teach dual sided Fred how to win a Norm Smith.

 

[Hasselhough]

What do people think about this as a complete over hall of the draft system.

Every team is allocated a set number of points (determined by draft index) based upon their picks after free agency and the trade period is complete.

Every pick is then auctioned off with the starting value of that pick being allocated to the original owner of that pick. For example pick 1 would be auctioned starting with 3,000 points with WCE the starting bid.

A minimum bid increase amount is applied (say 5% of pick value - 150 for pick 1 initially) and teams have 30 seconds to bid for the pick which resets after each new bid.

If a team bids (say Essendon) then pick one would now be 3,150 with a new minimum bid required of 158 (rounded up). IF no other bids and Essendon use the pick to bid on say Annable Brisbane would then have to match this new increased points system minus a 10% discount (is this the discount?) which would be 2,835. This means academy players that are good enough could force the academy team to pay a large portion of their draft points to obtain them. If Brisbane pass then Essendon get the player they think are worth the extra points.

If Brisbane accept then their existing picks are used up corresponding to that value (2,835). West Coast becomes the new pick 2 starting bid as everyone's 'picks' (not points) are moved back (and forward for the Brisbane picks absorbed). In this system WCE maintain their draft points and don't lose the value of the 1st pick because they have their total points to bid on for the remaining picks.

If we're going down the route of an even more compromised draft I think this sort of system allows the bottom teams to maintain their draft 'purchasing power' so to speak and allows for a better allocation of draft talent.

Obviously this would be quite complex and would need to consider how long it would take ect with the bidding process adding to the draft timing but I think this would also add intrigue to the draft also.

Interested to get peoples thoughts on this idea?

I feel it would get exploited and the gap between the big Vic clubs and feeder teams would widen .

It would suck to lose a high pick to GC or GWS through over bidding just for that highly rated player to leave for a team like Geelong for a lesser trade value or FA .

For me the biggest gripe I have about the draft is the % discount teams get on father son and academy players .

If your jumping the que you should have to pay a surcharge 10-20% it's backwards . Your reward for putting development in is access

Brisbane will be taking 6 1st round picks in the last 5 years all getting a discount 3x top 4 picks in that haul all whilst being at the pointy end of the ladder .