Rumour Bluemour Discussion XXXVIII

[Aphrodite]

#BUMP from February


Re: 'Alleged' rumours resurfacing ...

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Thanks all!

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Are you saying this is due to a shortage…

People do tend to look down on him

 

[Blue since 72]

Speaking from experience....he taught like he coached!

Lol copped a few sprays during your school days hey?

 

[SkyhorseTamer]

He took on a basket case and turned them around. I think they went from wooden spoon to second on the ladder in his first 3 seasons

Super duper importantly too. He managed the list amazingly.

They went from consistently Carlton like injury lists to consistently the opposite and a lot rests on the way players are rotated, managed and the training expectations etc.

At similar times neutrals etc were rating the list similar to Carlton's rebuilding list. With it changing which the consensus preferred.

So what happened? One had a real manager and aware head coach. A real be good at everything and delegate the minutia and expertise to the narrow spectrum roles. Whereas the other has a head coach who knows 4 things about footy and they're all 'contest'. So our list never handled the injury prone types. Which I bet other clubs would've, at least some of them, and you'd not have this massive hole in the list resulting in a coach change.

Oh and Fagan was allowed to request and bring in culture changing players on Hodge and Gunston

 

[SkyhorseTamer]

I'm more concerned about how long it has taken to recognise and add to areas we are deficient. We have not tried to add pace with any urgency, especially in our midfield.

Of course the big issue is paying too much to too few. We are top-heavy and haven't risked losing our top players in order to keep the list balanced.

Give Voss someone fast and he'd play them as a pure tagged, back pocket or 'burst stoppage mid' ala Dow - who he never ever figured out how to use anyway. Even when he had his mini 'hot streak' for us end of '23

Not convinced we don't have pace and don't know how much we need to add. Fully convinced it wouldn't have changed much this year.

 

[sparkybagger]

Lol copped a few sprays during your school days hey?

Indeed I did. Parko was with Burwood Teachers College in the mid-80s and my primary school in Forest Hill was so small we didn't have a P.E. Teacher. Parko rocked up each week to take us for P.E. with his student teachers in tow. I think he liked demonstrating what discipline looked like

He was such a legend that he offered to fill in as the school footy coach when our principal (the normal footy coach) was undergoing chemo. It was pretty awesome to rock up at footy comps with a premiership coach on the school bus.

 

[DollarsandSense]

with all the buzz around Vossy..... Do any of our IKNs have details on possible Assistant Coach departures?

 

[agro]

with all the buzz around Vossy..... Do any of our IKNs have details on possible Assistant Coach departures?

All of them.

 

[goreds]

with all the buzz around Vossy..... Do any of our IKNs have details on possible Assistant Coach departures?

I heard John Barker still hides in the corner of the coach's box, might be time to move on...

 

[Navara79]

with all the buzz around Vossy..... Do any of our IKNs have details on possible Assistant Coach departures?

 

[agro]

Indeed I did. Parko was with Burwood Teachers College in the mid-80s and my primary school in Forest Hill was so small we didn't have a P.E. Teacher. Parko rocked up each week to take us for P.E. with his student teachers in tow. I think he liked demonstrating what discipline looked like

He was such a legend that he offered to fill in as the school footy coach when our principal (the normal footy coach) was undergoing chemo. It was pretty awesome to rock up at footy comps with a premiership coach on the school bus.

If you saw that vein pulsating you knew were in trouble.

 

[Coona Blues]

Same as Voss and Hird... Maybe it's a thing of the era....

Hey young fella EGO IS NOT A DIRTY WORD!

Mind you they are spring chickens compared to me. Prefer honest ego to false humility any day of the week

 

[Blue since 72]

Indeed I did. Parko was with Burwood Teachers College in the mid-80s and my primary school in Forest Hill was so small we didn't have a P.E. Teacher. Parko rocked up each week to take us for P.E. with his student teachers in tow. I think he liked demonstrating what discipline looked like

He was such a legend that he offered to fill in as the school footy coach when our principal (the normal footy coach) was undergoing chemo. It was pretty awesome to rock up at footy comps with a premiership coach on the school bus.

Would have been awesome if you were a footy nut.

 

[Bamboo Harvester]

with all the buzz around Vossy..... Do any of our IKNs have details on possible Assistant Coach departures?

What's an 'IKN'.........

 

[Coona Blues]

Was McQualter selected over Skipworth? And if so, what does that say?

My recollection was that Skipworth was courted, but withdrew from the race quite early.

 

[goreds]

Hey young fella EGO IS NOT A DIRTY WORD!

Mind you they are spring chickens compared to me. Prefer honest ego to false humility any day if the week

 

[SkyhorseTamer]

Hey young fella EGO IS NOT A DIRTY WORD!

Mind you they are spring chickens compared to me. Prefer honest ego to false humility any day if the week

I meant the level above ego! Voss has had something to do with a few people I know in industry and out. Voss likes Voss has been the usual summary, just probably not as overt as Figjam And Hird.... Hah.

Honest ego is always preferable. I'd call that just self confidence. Which we need. I loathe false modesty and 'learnings'

 

[Coona Blues]

Thanks goreds knew someone would oblige.

 

[SkyhorseTamer]

Thanks goreds knew someone would oblige.

Fun fact. Skyhooks are how i got my handle. My ex, long time gf at the time, at about 20 y/o asked me who the band was playing and I said skyhooks and she said never heard of skyhorse and being drunk and with witnesses many jokes were made

 

[yibbida]

Let's go through the last few premiership coaches:

You have Scott listed twice.

Can you redo the list with the number of years they had been coaching for when they won the Premierships?

 

[Sweet Seventeen]

A young coach is good, but one who played at the top level.

Not a teacher like Bolton and our AFLW coach who is also a teacher.

No teachers !!!!!!!! Had to have played at high level of AFL.

Parko was a teacher, he went alright.

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Was McQualter selected over Skipworth? And if so, what does that say?

If Skipworth came second it can mean he's the best now available (of those in consideration for that job)

It can also mean McQualter more aligned with the specific criteria wce were looking for at the time, just as Voss aligned for us more so than Kingsley did for what we wanted at the time we were looking.

 

[Bluebag13]

Dont they need to be already told by August 1?

 

[Coona Blues]

McQualter, who made his AFL debut against West Coast in 2005, was among a final group of three contenders that included Collingwood assistant Hayden Skipworth and Geelong midfield coach Steven King

As I said, not my recollection, but in fairness, as per other recent posts, I am quite old and…

 

[CJMB]

Give Voss someone fast and he'd play them as a pure tagged, back pocket or 'burst stoppage mid' ala Dow - who he never ever figured out how to use anyway. Even when he had his mini 'hot streak' for us end of '23

Not convinced we don't have pace and don't know how much we need to add. Fully convinced it wouldn't have changed much this year.

yeah you know all he's thinking is "I bet they can get to the next contest fast"

 

[Coona Blues]

Fun fact. Skyhooks are how i got my handle. My ex, long time gf at the time, at about 20 y/o asked me who the band was playing and I said skyhooks and she said never heard of skyhorse and being drunk and with witnesses many jokes were made

Always related it to Avatar movie