Autopsy Round 23 = Adelaide 59-56 Collingwood

[DinoSoar]

If your intent is to come in here and troll, think again as it won’t end well for you.

Anzacday Maggie5 Gone Critical

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Thought he was terrific and an obvious upgrade on Dean.

We’ve imploded towards the end of the home and away season, so hopefully with Howe and Bobby (?) back for round 24 we can do some damage from that 5th-8th range that saw the Lions win the flag last year.

As sure as hell no-one will want to face us.

 

[spartan-magpie]

Thought he was terrific and an obvious upgrade on Dean.

We’ve imploded towards the end of the home and away season, so hopefully with Howe and Bobby (?) back for round 24 we can do some damage from that 5th-8th range that saw the Lions win the flag last year.

As sure as hell no-one will want to face us.

Why 5-8th? We will smash Melbourne this week. Get a few % back.

I see us finishing 4th and beating Umpirelaide in our first final.

 

[stormskye]

1 goal and we win and all the doomers on here would be celebrating the win. Context in losses still matters.

We outplayed them in most facets of the game just didn’t get the win on their home deck against the team that’s going to win the minor premiership.

It was a much improved performance than the bris and hawks games which is want we all wanted.

Def have some work to do on our inside 50 connection no doubt. But we’ve improved and that’s more like us than the last two weeks. 3 games in 12 days and 5 day break into the hawks showed.

No new injuries (that I’m aware of) is also a huge plus given our revolving door recently. More kms into degoey. Parker looked at home.

Our best can still beat anyone. Now onto Melbourne with Howe back in.

I rarely blame umpires. But fmd.. I’d expect the club to be raising some queries with the afl.

 

[thommo_legend]

No way finals will be umpired like last night, 4 umpires seems a big issue. The out of area umpire paid the Rankine dive.

 

[sr36]

Fair point, Allan wouldn't have fixed the i50 efficiency but Lipinski was having a mare. Allan would have been an upgrade.

I don't think either would have made a difference, but I wanted us to move Josh up forward. We needed someone ahead of the ball with an evasive trick - even if it was just to draw a free.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Fly acknowledged this.

Things got harder for Collingwood when the game got wet. This is not an excuse, they did not adapt to the changed conditions. Slowed our ball movement right down and it became even harder to mark those long bombs.

I absolutely noticed this; we were ****ing hopeless in the wet. Only Quaynor, Schultz, Frampton and Cameron could hold their marks (yes Checkers I’m looking at you). De Goey, Pendles, McCreery and Houston were having fresh air swings at balls on the ground.

Granted the Crows were throwing it, but their disposal was so much cleaner throughout.

 

[caloschwaby]

Just ran this auto-tip on Squiggle. Do these results (particularly the GC games + ours) look like unreasonable results? This has us finishing 4th by 0.3%.

 

[sr36]

No way finals will be umpired like last night, 4 umpires seems a big issue. The out of area umpire paid the Rankine dive.

It's a stagers dream. Bloke miles away who can't really see what happened responds to crowd and staging and overrules the umpire that was actually close enough to see what happened.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Fair point, Allan wouldn't have fixed the i50 efficiency but Lipinski was having a mare. Allan would have been an upgrade.

That was Mihocek’s worst game in recent memory in conditions that you would think, like for Schultz, should be tailor made for him. Lipinski was merely invisible. Houston’s touch was like that of Edward Scissorhands and we had about 21 players who couldn’t stick a tackle.

 

[Magpie_man]

I don't think either would have made a difference, but I wanted us to move Josh up forward. We needed someone ahead of the ball with an evasive trick - even if it was just to draw a free.

Or simply someone that could break free from a defender and lead up to a mark on the run. Why don’t we see this that often anymore? We are lacking some speed and evasiveness in that forward line for sure

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Why 5-8th? We will smash Melbourne this week. Get a few % back.

I see us finishing 4th and beating Umpirelaide in our first final.

Gold Coast will annihilate Port and Essendon.

 

[spartan-magpie]

Gold Coast will annihilate Port and Essendon.

Port will beat GC. I don’t think Scott will let the bombres go down without a fight.

You’re probably right, but I like my scenario better

 

[sr36]

Or simply someone that could break free from a defender and lead up to a mark on the run. Why don’t we see this that often anymore? We are lacking some speed and evasiveness in that forward line for sure

Too many numbers back and slippery ball. I think if we want the game to be played squeezed into our forward half, we've got to practice drawing frees. We needed a Hawk small or a Peatling to buckle at the knees or drive the head into someone and get a free.

 

[Peter Sidorkiewicz]

Can't blame the umpries when we dominate inside 50s and don't convert.

McRae needs to do something radical like play Darcy Moore

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Darcy Moore

Age

29

Ht

203cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.1

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

169.1

3star

D

13.9

3star

K

7.3

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

0.7

1star

MG

182.0

3star

D

6.8

2star

K

4.2

2star

HB

2.6

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

87.4

2star

as a forward against Melbourne.

 

[JuniorB]

It was a very disappointing result, but at least we looked a bit closer to the team that dominated earlier in the season.
The players seem to be emerging from the heavy training block induced lethargy - let's hope it's not too late.
The umpires had a hand in the result, which should give rise to some questions for the AFL.

I want to see a strong statement against Melbourne next week.

As an aside, I hope the moron who posted that racist garbage on the game day thread has been permanently banned.
Crawl back into your sewer dirtbag!

 

[jathanas]

That was Mihocek’s worst game in recent memory in conditions that would think, like Schultz, should be tailor made for him. Lipinski was merely invisible. Houston’s touch was like that of Edward Scissorhands and we had about 21 players who couldn’t stick a tackle.

Yep, if a lesser performance by Brody exists, I can't remember it. Maybe against May a few years back, or McGovern the WC gorilla.

I want to bring up Long as one that could join your queue of underperformers. Can't question endeavour, can question composure.

IQ and Schultz

* I seek license to use your "Edward Scissorhands" term without fear of IP litigation.

 

[Fruit]

Yes, he was truly brilliant.
Our defence is back to its best.
This is what still gives us a chance.
Midfield pressure was also great tonight.
But the forward line, and the lack of plan against flooding, is a massive issue.

Anyone floods against us when they get the lead, and we can't score.

It is so obvious.

Why TF can't we find an answer?

Our backline playing so well last night and adding Howe next week gives me hope we can also add an extra percent or two and keep 4th spot.

 

[sr36]

1 goal and we win and all the doomers on here would be celebrating the win. Context in losses still matters.

We outplayed them in most facets of the game just didn’t get the win on their home deck against the team that’s going to win the minor premiership.

It was a much improved performance than the bris and hawks games which is want we all wanted.

Def have some work to do on our inside 50 connection no doubt. But we’ve improved and that’s more like us than the last two weeks. 3 games in 12 days and 5 day break into the hawks showed.

No new injuries (that I’m aware of) is also a huge plus given our revolving door recently. More kms into degoey. Parker looked at home.

Our best can still beat anyone. Now onto Melbourne with Howe back in.

I rarely blame umpires. But fmd.. I’d expect the club to be raising some queries with the afl.

Connection will be the word of the week, but when it was dry, the lack of connection was just some shit kicks. Once the ball got wet and we locked it forward, it wasn't really a lack of connection - it was a kick to contest game and we didn't win a single contest up forward.

 

[Fruit]

I understand that teams kick long to a pocket to help protect turnover if the ball isn’t marked but last night it looked like it was screaming out for us to kick to the top of the square and see if we could give ourselves more of a realistic chance of a score off a ground ball.
We were setting up well behind the ball anyway so thought we should have been more attacking with that kick

 

[Jen2310]

A real frustrating game, manly because of how we dominated the inside 50's yet couldn't score. Fix that up and we smash them. Conditions didn't help when it started raining.
What it comes down to? The mid-forward connection, still seems to be the key thats been an issue for a while.

 

[jathanas]

I don't think either would have made a difference, but I wanted us to move Josh up forward. We needed someone ahead of the ball with an evasive trick - even if it was just to draw a free.

Josh didn't have the kind of impact we'd like him to and we know he can handle a wet ball.

Would he have been the answer yesterday? He seemed uncharacteristically subdued.

 

[AmericanMustard]

Why 5-8th? We will smash Melbourne this week. Get a few % back.

I see us finishing 4th and beating Umpirelaide in our first final.

Gold Coast play port Adelaide and Essendon lol. How do we possibly make top 4?

Assuming you’re banking on hawthorn beating Brisbane at the gabba?

 

[Jen2310]

 

[soreplums]

It's a stagers dream. Bloke miles away who can't really see what happened responds to crowd and staging and overrules the umpire that was actually close enough to see what happened.

They need to get rid of umpires outside of zones paying free kicks. Unless it is an off the ball hit, how can you make a call with confidence when you are 70metres away from the action?

Might as well have an umpire upstairs on a microphone making the calls to an umpires earpiece.

 

[cfc19902010]

No way finals will be umpired like last night, 4 umpires seems a big issue. The out of area umpire paid the Rankine dive.

Don’t assume a final at Adelaide will change umpiring for the better
They don’t care and neither does the AFL
The interstate bias has been going on home and away and finals since they came into the competition