Autopsy Round 23 = Adelaide 59-56 Collingwood

[DinoSoar]

If your intent is to come in here and troll, think again as it won’t end well for you.

Anzacday Maggie5 Gone Critical

 

[SchuPie]

I’m an Allan fan. But by Fly’s actions, it’s hard to not conclude that he didn’t think that Ed was capable of turning things in our favour in such a tight, contested arm-wrestle.

What alternative conclusion could you possibly draw from it?

If you had to put $ on it and were asked if you thought before the game if we would ever be miles ahead in the game / that it wouldn’t be a super high pressure situation, then why would you pick a player that couldn’t handle it and just play WHE instead?

I’d have played Allan the whole game

 

[doofdoof]

Agreed, he was great. Solid, dependable and made good attacking decisions.

IQ also very good last night.

Prefer two Billy's than Darcy now sadly.

 

[Dead Eye Didak]

Exactly, had no intention of getting rid of ball, and an umpire is not giving a free kick in forward line, ( can’t give a free kick here, he would’ve said to himself) had it been at CHB, fair chance. They wear earpieces for a reason. To be frank, losing interest, umpiring determines the outcome of a lot of games, it was 16-5 after half time at one stage Fox put stat up on screen.

The umpiring was a shit show...
Thilthorpe kicking the ball away from the boundary umpire was as blatant as you can get...
The staging from Rankine, blatant as you can get
The farking throws, how can 4 umpires miss blatant throws...
Then the acting from Smith that he got hit on the head whilst laying on the ball, and no one on top of him, blatant free kick...
The umps were too scared to pay any of those..

 

[SchuPie]

Spot on.

Nicks would have walked away from that game supremely confident that the Crows have our measure. They’ve been the best team this season in free-flowing, high scoring games and now they’ve proven that they can win a gritty arm wrestle.

He’d be feeling very content over his weetbix this morning.

Btw…going against everything I’ve just said, I have a lot of confidence that if we meet them again we should be right in it
But both coaches can spin it any way they want

 

[LuckyLee]

And hopefully with more system going into our F50. We can start by hitting up the man just outside or on the F50, and then look to hit up another short target inside F50, and not bomb it long to 30m in front of goal or to the forward pocket...
If there's a genuine one on one inside F50 then bomb it long!!

We also should have kicked some chaos ground balls into F50 instead of high bombs hoping for a miracle pack mark.

F50 ground balls make defenders very nervous. There’s always a chance of a high contact or in the back free kick when the ball is on the ground close to goal. Our long bombs were too predictable and too easy to counter.

 

[Dead Eye Didak]

houston needs a lesson on hardwork from schultz. Schultz had a bad first season at Collingwood, he worked so hard to rectify that to the point that he is in our top 3 for hardest working players.

I thought Houston was better than previous weeks. He still had the 18 disposals and had 5 score involvements plus kicking a goal himself. His efficiency with the ball was in the 80's....

 

[Axl the great]

It would be bloody hard to kick them from outside 50 with a wet ball, but I agree with your point; new avenues to goal are needed.

They worked their butts off for no reward. Must improve i50 efficiency.

Playing the top side interstate and keeping them to 9 goals, but losing the

Agree on Lipinski, in a game like that he was as useful as a hole in a bucket. We dropped WHE and we certainly DID NOT miss his hardness at the contest. Time for all the cleanskins to be shown the door.

Yeah Lipinski I could do without in the team.
About as reliable as a Temu watch.

 

[Monco Matt]

I know what the problem is.

Everything will be ok if we just embrace pineapple on pizza and reject anyone who wont.

This! This is what we are missing! We just need a little bit of pineapple on our pizza. Some sweetness to compliment the savory. A little bit of magic i50 to finish off the hard work. We just need some pineapple on our pizza. Quote of the year!

 

[satty]

Would also be having a word with the AFL about last night’s missed free kicks for throws.

Would make it a very big thing because there is a real chance we see the crows in week 1 of the finals .

 

[delta_magpie]

Best game for the season clearly, but how much of that was the loose man in defense?
I guess we will have to wait till next weeks game

 

[satty]

I thought Houston was better than previous weeks. He still had the 18 disposals and had 5 score involvements plus kicking a goal himself. His efficiency with the ball was in the 80's....

He had only 6 touches in the second half. Houston has this annoying habit of starting really strong and then fading away from the game , whilst also committing various defensive blunders .

 

[sr36]

Spot on.

Nicks would have walked away from that game supremely confident that the Crows have our measure. They’ve been the best team this season in free-flowing, high scoring games and now they’ve proven that they can win a gritty arm wrestle.

He’d be feeling very content over his weetbix this morning.

I think Nicks would be full of praise for his defenders, but ultimately saying **** we got lucky.

 

[MattD2308]

Well the Wallabies won in South Africa!!
Thought I’d mention this as there were a couple of rugby passes last night !!

 

[Bianconeri]

Come on, mate. Don't kick a bloke when he's down.

I haven’t kicked him

 

[Dead Eye Didak]

Agree on Lipinski, in a game like that he was as useful as a hole in a bucket. We dropped WHE and we certainly DID NOT miss his hardness at the contest. Time for all the cleanskins to be shown the door.

Lipinski was having a good season, but the last 5 weeks its been frustrating watching him.
He just doesn't tackle, l'm not sure if he's sore in the shoulder, but his tackling is woeful and then the inability to compete in one on one contests...
Most think he should be dropped, me included, but he won't be, and neither will McStay.
I think now we will be loathe to make many changes to the side going into finals...

 

[Prexm]

Sadly, correct. If we don't pinch fourth, I think it's over red rover.

Yep such a fine line. Finish 4th and we have as good a chance as anyone. Miss top 4 and we will be heavily favoured to go out first week.

 

[satty]

fck how did we let this one slip, 71 inside 50’s.
71 for crying out loud.

 

[Dead Eye Didak]

Well the Wallabies won in South Africa!!
Thought I’d mention this as there were a couple of rugby passes last night !!

And the Storm are continuing in the NRL to hopefully another GF spot. Currently sitting 2nd, and tying up another top 2 finish...
This teams excellence over a long period of time is amazing, considering the amount of injuries they have had this season, to be 2nd, is frightening for the other teams going into finals..

 

[SchuPie]

We also should have kicked some chaos ground balls into F50 instead of high bombs hoping for a miracle pack mark.

F50 ground balls make defenders very nervous. There’s always a chance of a high contact or in the back free kick when the ball is on the ground close to goal. Our long bombs were too predictable and too easy to counter.

Not a bad option
Sounds like Fly was trying to get stoppage but being unpredictable would help

 

[jathanas]

Did anyone think that the rain sort of turned the game against us?

It seemed to crush our style and made us play territory footy which just suited them.

Fly acknowledged this.

Things got harder for Collingwood when the game got wet. This is not an excuse, they did not adapt to the changed conditions. Slowed our ball movement right down and it became even harder to mark those long bombs.

 

[SchuPie]

Yeah Lipinski I could do without in the team.
About as reliable as a Temu watch.

But he’s also so important when it’s dry and we’re up and running
I’d only replace him w Steele at this stage

 

[delta_magpie]

Pat is a strange one, a few weeks back "best kick inside 50 in the team" and now is likely to get dropped.
same thing in the '23 season he barely made it into the GF as the Sub after some poor late season performances.
Maybe they can "manage" him next week before finals to give him 2 weeks... or maybe he has one of those injuries that need to be fixed in the offseason etc.
he can be very impactful when hes playing well though.

Cant wait for the experience of J.Howe in that backline as well

 

[Axl the great]

But he’s also so important when it’s dry and we’re up and running
I’d only replace him w Steele at this stage

Yeah for me I prefer guys that don’t disappear when it gets willing.
He’s a downhill skier who gives you one good game in 4.

 

[Dead Eye Didak]

He had only 6 touches in the second half. Houston has this annoying habit of starting really strong and then fading away from the game , whilst also committing various defensive blunders .

He basically played 100% in the forward half in the second half, and it became a scrappy slug fest in the 3rd and 4th quarters where no side was able to get real clean possession of the ball....

 

[jathanas]

Who would you have subbed him in for and why?

Allan is about territory where we were dominant. We needed a bloke who could take a mark up forward or a weasel small forward who could draw a high contact free.

Fair point, Allan wouldn't have fixed the i50 efficiency but Lipinski was having a mare. Allan would have been an upgrade.