List Mgmt. 2025 List Management discussion - part 2

[John2010362340]

Reported by Gabelich and the source was windys agent. That doesn’t make it true.

By the same token, Carlton lowballed TDK.

Or did st Kilda and north re windy put a bigger offer on the table to incentivise a player to want to/consider moving??

4 for 650k is reasonable throw in some performance triggers like top 3 b&f and top 44 All Australian squads and move on.

 

[kosifantutti]

 

[heynow85]

Harry Boyd and Angus McLennan delisted

 

[Anythings_sipposible]

Starting midfield of the following feeeeeeels good:

C Windhager Philippou Wilson

Foll TDK NWM Garcia

That's with Steele, Macrae, Boxshall on the bench, and players like Henry, Hall, Wood, Sinclair and Trav rotating through.

All of a sudden two of our biggest previous weaknesses, a lack of star power and a shallow, vanilla midfield have been fixed.

 

[gubby88]

Widely reported he was lowballed.

He is receiving offers well above what we’ve offered according to you it’s $200 - $300k a year.

We could both be wildly wrong but you can’t be serious with some of these statements. If as reported Windhager has $800k plus on the table from north and serious interest from several other clubs then by definition our offer is below market value, hence lowballed.

Clubs make decisions all the time that are tough and lead to other players leaving. Despite the denial's paying Nas $2million and TDK god knows what, it appears to already be hurting us in retaining others.

Maybe it’s just me but we can’t have predicted what Nas would cost us so money we thought we had is gone. I think it’s stupid not to lock away your own young guns before you start throwing money at imports.

We’ve talked about TDK, it makes sense especially if Marshall leaves which at one stage at least he wanted to. I’m never going to be happy loosing a Windhager to being in an Aleer. Nothings done until the paper work is lodged he’s a contracted player at a club about to play finals.

So using our coaches logic there can’t at this stage to be much to walk away from. That or once again Ross is too clever by have with some of his statements.

Widely reported....WIDELY....like the saints exodus? like NAS going to the Power...then the CROM...

widely reported is about as useful information as getting your prescription from the homeless guy on the corner....

 

[Mystifly]

I think my favourite thing about the media is when types who hate Saints (Andy Maher & Sam Edmund), don't acknowledge that Saints have saved almost $3m over the past 3 x years by underspending the cap. Andy even said something like "I don't know anything about list management" then proceeds to rag on St Kilda spending big on TDK. I know it's a non-serious buffoon show, but you'd think they would at least want to bring up crucial information for the listeners? I heard Saints fans calling up Dwayne's show who also have no clue and were saying how signing TDK is a "waste of money/don't want him."

 

[SainterinSydney]

I think my favourite thing about the media is when types who hate Saints (Andy Maher & Sam Edmund), don't acknowledge that Saints have saved almost $3m over the past 3 x years by underspending the cap. Andy even said something like "I don't know anything about list management" then proceeds to rag on St Kilda spending big on TDK. I know it's a non-serious buffoon show, but you'd think they would at least want to bring up crucial information for the listeners? I heard Saints fans calling up Dwayne's show who also have no clue and were saying how signing TDK is a "waste of money/don't want him."

I agree. I find it bizarre, especially when our own supporters think we now can't afford Windy. We have been banking cap. We have the biggest war chest in the history of the game!

 

[EddieMurphy]

Me too. Curnow's coming to the Saints. We're getting everyone!

New recruiter Mr Old man

 

[Yawkey way]

Widely reported....WIDELY....like the saints exodus? like NAS going to the Power...then the CROM...

widely reported is about as useful information as getting your prescription from the homeless guy on the corner....

I don’t know where you get this exodus talk.

There there some players who weren’t happy that’s common knowledge. I have no information on wether that’s still the case I guess we’ll see how many remain after the trade period.

As to Nas yes he stayed but are you seriously trying to make out it was nether in doubt.

 

[SainterinSydney]

Six Saints sign on

Six Saints have extended their tenures at the club into the 2025 AFL season.

www.saints.com.au

Looking like out of this crop of 1 year contractors from last year, only Keeler and Stocker will still be on the list.

 

[Linton Street Saint]

Guess we won’t have the two highest paid players and the bar is now set for marquee players.

That is a farce, Harley Reid hasn't shown a bees dick worth of form equal to that of Nas. The whole industry is upside down.

Lets watch all the media pile on for paying 2mil for a player that has shown very little except wanting to punch on with every block and his dog. Right ? Right ?!

We live in bizzaro world.

 

[OxSaint]

I think my favourite thing about the media is when types who hate Saints (Andy Maher & Sam Edmund), don't acknowledge that Saints have saved almost $3m over the past 3 x years by underspending the cap. Andy even said something like "I don't know anything about list management" then proceeds to rag on St Kilda spending big on TDK. I know it's a non-serious buffoon show, but you'd think they would at least want to bring up crucial information for the listeners? I heard Saints fans calling up Dwayne's show who also have no clue and were saying how signing TDK is a "waste of money/don't want him."

I have always believed that reporters and shock jocks like the Corne always target smaller clubs to be heard as the fan base is smaller and the club holds less power to effect their careers.

It’s that they can target clubs like us and have the least amount of blow black.

 

[stavro#4]

That is a farce, Harley Reid hasn't shown a bees dick of form equal to Nas. The whole industry is upside down.

Lets watch all the media pile on for paying 2mil for a player that has shown very little except wanting to punch on with every block and his dog.

We live in bizzaro world.

Won’t see anyone bag them for it.

 

[HeavenlySources]

Six Saints sign on

Six Saints have extended their tenures at the club into the 2025 AFL season.

www.saints.com.au

Looking like out of this crop of 1 year contractors from last year, only Keeler and Stocker will still be on the list.

Byrnes will hang on

 

[Nutsngum]

Does anyone know any more details about how the rookie list works now? The AFL site states there is no longer a minimum amount of rookies required to be on a list which is news to me.

If so, does this mean that Boyd and Mclennan's (despite being rookie and supplement picks) list spots can be used for trade ins and main draftees?

 

[StCicatriz]

common sense decisions

 

[Saintos The ITK]

That is a farce, Harley Reid hasn't shown a bees dick worth of form equal to that of Nas. The whole industry is upside down.

Lets watch all the media pile on for paying 2mil for a player that has shown very little except wanting to punch on with every block and his dog. Right ? Right ?!

We live in bizzaro world.

Maybe so but we’ve pushed a lot of players prices up.
Port and Adelaide helped.

 

[StCicatriz]

That is a farce, Harley Reid hasn't shown a bees dick worth of form equal to that of Nas. The whole industry is upside down.

Lets watch all the media pile on for paying 2mil for a player that has shown very little except wanting to punch on with every block and his dog. Right ? Right ?!

We live in bizzaro world.

of course he hasn't but he's also found him self in the same territory as NAS. i love NAS and he's had an amazing month of footy but i don't think he's consistently the best player in the comp right now. but circumstance have dictated he will be the highest paid player over the next couple of years purely because of circumstance.

where his current club cannot afford to lose him. whilst also having a bunch of clubs try and lure him back home with big money. it's almost blank cheque territory.

can you imagine if either player left their club. the damage is massive.

i'm very happy we got NAS and im looking forward to next year, which is a welcome change to it being a bit doom and gloomish.

 

[Yawkey way]

Reported by Gabelich and the source was windys agent. That doesn’t make it true.

By the same token, Carlton lowballed TDK.

Or did st Kilda and north re windy put a bigger offer on the table to incentivise a player to want to/consider

My point remains, we don’t know what’s true and if possible retaining Windhager should be a priority.

 

[StFly]

common sense decisions

"We welcome back the Gus and Harry to our VFL squad for..."

 

[Yawkey way]

I wonder who many more will need to go.

I wouldn’t mind McLennan for the st Kilda vfl side, Boyd needs to move on.

 

[Mystifly]

of course he hasn't but he's also found him self in the same territory as NAS. i love NAS and he's had an amazing month of footy but i don't think he's consistently the best player in the comp right now. but circumstance have dictated he will be the highest paid player over the next couple of years purely because of circumstance.

where his current club cannot afford to lose him. whilst also having a bunch of clubs try and lure him back home with big money. it's almost blank cheque territory.

can you imagine if either player left their club. the damage is massive.

i'm very happy we got NAS and im looking forward to next year, which is a welcome change to it being a bit doom and gloomish.

Saints are just the first to hit the $2m threshold, and have reportedly the top 2 highest PA salaries. Reid might squeeze into 2nd, and I would imagine over the next 2 x years we will see heftier contracts, potentially even greater than Nas' current one. Seems as though Essendon will have the ability to reel in a big fish with top dollar soon as well.

 

[stavro#4]

My point remains, we don’t know what’s true and if possible retaining Windhager should be a priority.

No one has disagreed about retaining windy.

But the club hasn’t lowballed anyone.

 

[_Maximus_12]

I think my favourite thing about the media is when types who hate Saints (Andy Maher & Sam Edmund), don't acknowledge that Saints have saved almost $3m over the past 3 x years by underspending the cap. Andy even said something like "I don't know anything about list management" then proceeds to rag on St Kilda spending big on TDK. I know it's a non-serious buffoon show, but you'd think they would at least want to bring up crucial information for the listeners? I heard Saints fans calling up Dwayne's show who also have no clue and were saying how signing TDK is a "waste of money/don't want him."

Andy Maher is insufferable.

 

[XhazzafootyX]

I think my favourite thing about the media is when types who hate Saints (Andy Maher & Sam Edmund), don't acknowledge that Saints have saved almost $3m over the past 3 x years by underspending the cap. Andy even said something like "I don't know anything about list management" then proceeds to rag on St Kilda spending big on TDK. I know it's a non-serious buffoon show, but you'd think they would at least want to bring up crucial information for the listeners? I heard Saints fans calling up Dwayne's show who also have no clue and were saying how signing TDK is a "waste of money/don't want him."

Andy Maher and Sam Edmund. Two Carlton supporters