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[4flagsin5yrs]

Won’t listen to offers: Carlton’s Curnow stance made clear

EXCLUSIVE | The Blues coach has spoken.

www.sen.com.au

which means up the ante...

 

[The Bighouse]

When Cerra left Freo he was playing like an elite A grader.

We have all but destroyed him, it appears....

(a familiar tale sadly)

Pretty sure he was firing for us in his 1st year.
May have something to do with some injuries dragging him down.

Hopefully he’s in Qatar again and like everyone, is honing the skills sessions over & over.

 

[DangerousD]

Getting band 1 for JSOS as well would be seriously good news for us. Would open the door to a lot of different options.

Assuming Ess get band 1 as well as WC that would mean we hold 11 and 12, people saying that WC want more picks meaning 2 could be on the table in a deal similar to last year, my issue with this is, last year the top 3 were really highly rated, with a lot of demand.

The same deal this year for pick 2 would need a pick coming back as we would still need to find points for Dean.

Getting pick 2 in, then taking Dean, Ison and a few late picks plus rookies is a great draft outcome but that sets us up for another year down the bottom end of the ladder and doesnt bank any extra picks for next year.

A band 1 outcome for SOS would be great in terms of being able to target a quality player with pick 11, using 12 to match a bid on Dean whilst having enough points for Ison and still having potions for adding depth players.

 

[DangerousD]

If you trade away both compo picks how are you getting Dean, remembering we need next year's picks for Cody?

Assuming we would get something back, if we couldn’t, then i dont think its a good idea

 

[DangerousD]

If we hold pick 10 and decide to target Flanders, does anything come back the other way? If we got Flanders lat year id say 10 wouldn’t be enough, he has a down year and now no idea what he is worth.

If we are to trade our pick for a player, with our two academy players climbing the boards, we would have to get something back.

 

[Carltonfc9]

Pretty sure he was firing for us in his 1st year.
May have something to do with some injuries dragging him down.

Hopefully he’s in Qatar again and like everyone, is honing the skills sessions over & over.

Probably would of won our bnf in 2023 if he didn't go down with injury late in the season

 

[teagueyubeauty]

Clearly TDK and JSOS, might even be 2 x band 1

 

[Carltonfc9]

Assuming Ess get band 1 as well as WC that would mean we hold 11 and 12, people saying that WC want more picks meaning 2 could be on the table in a deal similar to last year, my issue with this is, last year the top 3 were really highly rated, with a lot of demand.

The same deal this year for pick 2 would need a pick coming back as we would still need to find points for Dean.

Getting pick 2 in, then taking Dean, Ison and a few late picks plus rookies is a great draft outcome but that sets us up for another year down the bottom end of the ladder and doesnt bank any extra picks for next year.

A band 1 outcome for SOS would be great in terms of being able to target a quality player with pick 11, using 12 to match a bid on Dean whilst having enough points for Ison and still having potions for adding depth players.

I see Voss and people say we need depth players, we already have depth players we need more A grade talent that pushes the players we have now into depth players or we will never improve as a football club

 

[RPCB]

Clearly TDK and JSOS, might even be 2 x band 1

The way the AFL hate us, I am still not convinced they will even give us Band 1 for TDK. Let alone two of them in the same draft.

 

[macky99]

The way the AFL hate us, I am still not convinced they will even give us Band 1 for TDK. Let alone two of them in the same draft.

Based on the contract offered 8 years at $1.8m to TDK zero chance of it not being a 1st round pick, that would risk the system being totally broken.

 

[dangertroy]

The way the AFL hate us, I am still not convinced they will even give us Band 1 for TDK. Let alone two of them in the same draft.

Nah, they will update their guidelines around compo picks and give us two first round picks. But pushed back 2 years until the draft when Tassie comes in…

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

Probably would of won our bnf in 2023 if he didn't go down with injury late in the season

No argument from me, but 2023 is two seasons ago now...

 

[SurreyBlue]

Based on the contract offered 8 years at $1.8m to TDK zero chance of it not being a 1st round pick, that would risk the system being totally broken.

With that deal, worth pick 1 in any draft. Just plain silly system to allocate depending on finish, but that is typical AFL mentality.

Either allocate pick by contract or have the team buying, pay up according to contract conditions. Onus on them to find the picks needed.

 

[Carltonfc9]

No argument from me, but 2023 is two seasons ago now...

To be fair he had a pretty good year this year aswell

 

[agro]

There is a little known codicil in the AFL constitution that says if a rule designed to provide a benefit to the current 17 AFL club unintentionally benefits Carlton then we didn’t mean it and it doesn’t apply.

 

[Blue and Silver]

Personally I am not taking any note of strong language around keeping Curnow.

You would say that even if you were looking at trading him.

If you do trade for max value, you say the offer was too good to refuse.

If you don't you say that we never really considered it, giving Charlie an easier public path back into the fold.

 

[ctwenty1]

Personally I am not taking any note of strong language around keeping Curnow.

You would say that even if you were looking at trading him.

If you do trade for max value, you say the offer was too good to refuse.

If you don't you say that we never really considered it, giving Charlie an easier public path back into the fold.

The language we use around those we want to keep and those we are happy to let go is different

We defintely arent looking to trade Charlie

 

[Monty1978]

I don’t believe anything the club says about curnow … he wants to leave , everyone knows it .. what voss said this morning was to the benefit of us … under no circumstances we will not trade him … next minute , gulden and next years 1st was too good to refuse … I have seen enough trade periods to realise most often than not the player gets traded

 

[The Return of the Paf]

Assuming Ess get band 1 as well as WC that would mean we hold 11 and 12, people saying that WC want more picks meaning 2 could be on the table in a deal similar to last year, my issue with this is, last year the top 3 were really highly rated, with a lot of demand.

The same deal this year for pick 2 would need a pick coming back as we would still need to find points for Dean.

Getting pick 2 in, then taking Dean, Ison and a few late picks plus rookies is a great draft outcome but that sets us up for another year down the bottom end of the ladder and doesnt bank any extra picks for next year.

A band 1 outcome for SOS would be great in terms of being able to target a quality player with pick 11, using 12 to match a bid on Dean whilst having enough points for Ison and still having potions for adding depth players.

That doesn't nab us any extra picks for next year.

 

[JK61]

The language we use around those we want to keep and those we are happy to let go is different

We defintely arent looking to trade Charlie

I agree. I can’t see Charlie being traded. Can’t imagine that Voss will change his stance.

 

[Rustica]

Latrelle Pickett ? We can always play him as a wide receiver

 

[The_BigFella]

The language we use around those we want to keep and those we are happy to let go is different

We defintely arent looking to trade Charlie

The moment they indicate they’d be open to a trade for Charlie, it immediately lowers his value. With the cultural changes clearly underway, I can’t see them wanting someone in the leadership group who doesn’t want to be here. I’m sure they’d consider a trade at the right price.

 

[ctwenty1]

The moment they indicate they’d be open to a trade for Charlie, it immediately lowers his value. With the cultural changes clearly underway, I can’t see them wanting someone in the leadership group who doesn’t want to be here. I’m sure they’d consider a trade at the right price.

I get why you think that, but I disagree

Being open means we increase the market for him

Look at JSOS? We've said he wants to explore free agnecy and his value has gone up

 

[Michael Jezz]

I get why you think that, but I disagree

Being open means we increase the market for him

Look at JSOS? We've said he wants to explore free agnecy and his value has gone up

Only due to help from the bank of (mum) & DAD

 

[The Bighouse]

The moment they indicate they’d be open to a trade for Charlie, it immediately lowers his value. With the cultural changes clearly underway, I can’t see them wanting someone in the leadership group who doesn’t want to be here. I’m sure they’d consider a trade at the right price.

May just be easier to strip him of the leadership group..
Strange decision to begin with but probably trying to give him some responsibility / grasp some ownership (marketing probably played a role too)