Rumour Bluemour Discussion XXXIX

[ctwenty1]

He hates the culture that we've allowed manifest.

Hmmmm

Selection integrity here we come

 

[bigblueboy]

Who is not happy with the Doc and Jsos calls? Please eleaborate

Those who put fantasy ahead of reality.

 

[Wickzki]

Hmmmm

Selection integrity here we come

You're going to see a lot of symbolism and strong culture language being used.

He used the basic gist of it in the Chris Davies letter.

Expect more of that.

The proof will be in the pudding as to whether it's hot air or more than words. I'm hopeful.

 

[Wickzki]

Those who put fantasy ahead of reality.

Those who made the pact to win a premiership together.

The wheels fell off the group last year with all of the delistings and continues with Docherty and Jack leaving.

There are those in that group who have decided to move forward and work harder (Weitering for one) and others who won't.

 

[bigblueboy]

One other thing i’ll post tonight .. don’t expect a reaction to all that is spouted in the mainstream media.
Club has set a firm position this week and does not intend to run a commentary on every tidbit which is ventilated publicly.

 

[Stig O'Hara]

Xerri is definitely a dirty ruckman.

I’d take a monster like that in 10 seconds.

 

[Stamos]

Those who made the pact to win a premiership together.

The wheels fell off the group last year with all of the delistings and continues with Docherty and Jack leaving.

The wheels fell off well before then (2nd quarter in the prelim, and the again 2nd quarter in Round 17 against the Giants). Genuinely pathetic if they’re blaming list changes at the end of 24.

 

[ctwenty1]

The irony here of course is that team first football is actually easier than clique first

 

[Treesloth]

Apologies for the late night post … been out for a very interesting dinner.
1. Wright is a weapon but he’s not perfect. Thinks little of the soft touch culture which has infected the club in recent years.
2. Has given players and coaches a clear direction. We are with you if you are with us.
3. Curnow is on the block. As are Motlop and McGovern. Has set Curnow management on fire and are filthy. Told them to stump up or FO.
4. Made a hard call on Doc and JSOS. Hasn’t made many happy but …
5. Expect further board change … They were clear on the players being the problem.

Love most of this but one thing that does concern me is if we also move on Motlop and McGovern.

Not a huge fan of either, but we are already looking at enormous amount of list change this off season.

Wright himself has said we may have “cut too deep” last year and at a certain point you need to keep some of the fringe types for stability.

 

[Gavstar]

Those who made the pact to win a premiership together.

The wheels fell off the group last year with all of the delistings and continues with Docherty and Jack leaving.

There are those in that group who have decided to move forward and work harder (Weitering for one) and others who won't.

My understanding was that pact was also about leaving money on the table to try and build to a premiership.

Going to be interesting times ahead with Walsh free agency coming up.

 

[bigblueboy]

The wheels fell off well before then (2nd quarter in the prelim, and the again 2nd quarter in Round 17 against the Giants). Genuinely pathetic if they’re blaming list changes at the end of 24.

You have to question why they dropped Hewitt for the GWS game in 24. Quite possibly the worst team selection decision amid a myriad of others.

 

[teagueyubeauty]

And many of those list changes weren’t contributing anywhere near enough for a very longtime.
Jagga would have been fantastic this year, no idea why Doc thinks trading in journeymen would have made a difference. There was certainly not enough cash for a gun

 

[Stamos]

You have to question why they dropped Hewitt for the GWS game in 24. Quite possibly the worst team selection decision amid a myriad of others.

Compounded by bringing in Cotts with no 2s games and a sore TDK v Briggs 1 out, and then the next week playing 2 rucks against English at Marvel.
Diabolical.

 

[Gavstar]

And many of those list changes weren’t contributing anywhere near enough for a very longtime.
Jagga would have been fantastic this year, no idea why Doc thinks trading in journeymen would have made a difference. There was certainly not enough cash for a gun

I’m guessing that Houston was the target players hoped would be landing. He would have improved the side but enough to challenge ?

NB Cook said top 4 so if the CEO was a fantasist ……

 

[bigblueboy]

Compounded by bringing in Cotts with no 2s games and a sore TDK v Briggs 1 out, and then the next week playing 2 rucks against English at Marvel.
Diabolical.

Totally. And yet some internally not only thought these were good decisions, but doubled down when questions were raised.
Way too late … but at least now we have someone saying WTF with the power to deliver and has an impetus for change. No guarantee but the alternative would be far worse IMO.

 

[bigLrip]

Love being linked with Walter. His ceiling is immense. His aggression and willingness to tackle, combined with HOK gives us a formidable f50 for the next 8 years.
In my opinion it’s clear GW is embarking on a mini reset both talent and character wise. If we could pry walter and a pick giving us flexibility to address other needs (ball use) - huge thumbs up for GW’s first summer in charge

 

[bigblueboy]

Love being linked with Walter. His ceiling is immense. His aggression and willingness to tackle, combined with HOK gives us a formidable f50 for the next 8 years.
In my opinion it’s clear GW is embarking on a mini reset both talent and character wise. If we could pry walter and a pick giving us flexibility to address other needs (ball use) - huge thumbs up for GW’s first summer in charge

Walter is not in our radar.

 

[LastGanginTown]

Apologies for the late night post … been out for a very interesting dinner.
1. Wright is a weapon but he’s not perfect. Thinks little of the soft touch culture which has infected the club in recent years.
2. Has given players and coaches a clear direction. We are with you if you are with us.
3. Curnow is on the block. As are Motlop and McGovern. Has set Curnow management on fire and are filthy. Told them to stump up or FO.
4. Made a hard call on Doc and JSOS. Hasn’t made many happy but …
5. Expect further board change … They were clear on the players being the problem.

Interesting that board change incoming yet they’re of the opinion players are the issue. Do you know if this means that that opinion at board level is not unanimous on this particular point?

 

[Wickzki]

My understanding was that pact was also about leaving money on the table to try and build to a premiership.

Going to be interesting times ahead with Walsh free agency coming up.

Correct. Several of our players were offered approx. 400k more to move elsewhere back when that was the equivalent to a decent best 22 player (i.e. similar money to what we paid Acres to come across) so although performances dropped that's what it's really about.

The wheels fell off well before then (2nd quarter in the prelim, and the again 2nd quarter in Round 17 against the Giants). Genuinely pathetic if they’re blaming list changes at the end of 24.

See above.

Allegedly, some of the group feel like they sacrificed hundreds of thousands of dollars each but we still ended up with the following list turnover:

Out: Ed Curnow (retired), Lachie Plowman, Lochie O'Brien, Zac Fisher, Paddy Dow, Jack Martin, David Cuningham, Caleb Marchbank, Matt Owies, Matt Kennedy, Jack Carroll

In: Elijah Hollands and Nick Haynes. We added Fantasia and Evans late in SSP the last two years. The other additions were all kids who had a low likelihood of helping them win.

 

[choo]

Walter gives me Matthew Watson vibes

 

[katmanblue]

Has been since Cripps convinced them to bring him back …

Agreed. Why is a player making coaching decisions? Problematic.

 

[Stig O'Hara]

The irony here of course is that team first football is actually easier than clique first

I’d understand clique if you’d explain irony first & foremost.

More John Fogerty.

Don’t drink & drive kids.

 

[LastGanginTown]

Correct. Several of our players were offered approx. 400k more to move elsewhere back when that was the equivalent to a decent best 22 player (i.e. similar money to what we paid Acres to come across) so although performances dropped that's what it's really about.

Do you think Wickz that whilst the pact is great to take less to build something successful with this group, that the pact is also about where they’ve stopped? I’d kill for our players to impact a contest the way the Pies did last night

 

[SurreyBlue]

Interesting that board change incoming yet they’re of the opinion players are the issue. Do you know if this means that that opinion at board level is not unanimous on this particular point?

Be in no doubt, Wright is calling the shots.
IMO, the implode was always coming once the decision to keep Voss was made.
This will either break or make this club, but what can’t occur, is another 5 years in the wilderness.
Let’s hope GW knows what he is doing.

 

[HereComesJuddy]

Humphreys from the Suns is the guy we need to be chasing if considering a trade for Charlie.

He is a Victorian and looks the goods for only 20 years old. A mid that can hit the scoreboard and also plays as a dangerous hard to match up on forward is definitely the type we need.

If we could bring in Humphreys along with Gruzewski and Gothard from the Giants, it transforms our forward line into something not so slow and much more dangerous options than what we currently have imo. Plus having Humphreys run through the midfield alongside Jagga and our midfield looks a whole lot different also. 2 birds 1 stone