Strategy Trade and List Management Thread Part 7 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[adogsfan5]

Meh on Erasmus, he wasn't a need. Silvagni got a bit risky and we bailed. Then we have gone hail Mary on Wilkie.

Now reports are we will wait till Butts season is over before we offer a contract.

Meanwhile if the Hawks wanted Butts they would of already had him locked away.

Things would still be bubbling away in the background mate

 

[grassman75]

So Butts could really plug a hole in our back half?

(its going to be a long off season, isnt it?)

I did this joke yesterday Sandra

 

[Foxman98]

Meh on Erasmus, he wasn't a need. Silvagni got a bit risky and we bailed. Then we have gone hail Mary on Wilkie.

Now reports are we will wait till Butts season is over before we offer a contract.

Meanwhile if the Hawks wanted Butts they would have already had him locked away.

Silvagni would’ve been a mill a year for 5 years

 

[dergert]

Lol Jay Clarke's article on butts is just filler. Just speculates that we "may" reach out to him.

 

[ossie_21]

Whilst I doubt we get Wilkie, if we got him AND Butts, the lid would be off.

Would transform us completely in defence and it would be nice to be able to add 1 more small/medium defender

 

[Dry Rot]

Whilst I doubt we get Wilkie, if we got him AND Butts, the lid would be off.

Would transform us completely in defence and it would be nice to be able to add 1 more small/medium defender

That probably sadly won't happen.

We won't get Wilkie, we won't get Butts, we won't get Young, and now Jones is quite rightly looking for a new team.

Strap yourself in, take all your meds, be prepared and warn everyone in your household.

Come on down Stephen May!!!!!

 

[Deadly Darcy]

When the likes of North and St Kilda land targets and we don't, it does give you the s**** a little.

They haven’t drafted the broad base of young talent we have who will all need decent pay increases in the coming years. With Jamarra cash getting freed up I’d be happy to throw a decent amount at Butts as long as we keep our warchest loaded for Butters next year.

 

[Dav1d]

That probably sadly won't happen.

We won't get Wilkie, we won't get Butts, we won't get Young, and now Jones is quite rightly looking for a new team.

Strap yourself in, take all your meds, be prepared and warn everyone in your household.

Come on down Stephen May!!!!!

The news media will stay say we done nothing to address it as well
Like we have targeted players in the past, they just have said no. Which really sucks but I’m glad we missed out on some

Good old Matty Bate for example

 

[Norm De Guerre]

Meh on Erasmus, he wasn't a need. Silvagni got a bit risky and we bailed.

Agreed.

Then we have gone hail Mary on Wilkie.

Sure.Its a long shot and in my view was never realistic.

But it's an aggressive move. Something that many in here claim we never do.

Now reports are we will wait till Butts season is over before we offer a contract.

Meanwhile if the Hawks wanted Butts they would of already had him locked away.

I wouldn't be putting too much stock in us not talking to the likes of Butts whist Adelaides season is alive.

It may be true that Beveridge is above such things. But Im pretty certain that if he's on our radar, then Power would've been in discussions with his management behind the scenes for some time now. As he would be doing with every manager he has daily contact with at this time of year.

Only a fraction of theses talks ever become public and it only happens when one of the parties want it to be for their own ends. Be that to use the talks to put a rocket up their club to advance contract talks or because its a live chance of the player leaving happening. In the case of the former I suspect thats how the Wilkie news became public. And I suspect the latter is why the Merrett talk became public today.

How we get Butts who has another year on his contract is another matter entirely. One Im not sure Ive seen addressed in peoples thirst for all things Butts.

 

[Optimistic Dog]

We are bringing in Luke Power though.

Given we have Sam, is that a power play.

 

[Iamspock]

Given we have Sam, is that a power play.

Well, that's more refreshing than a Butt joke....

 

[Doggy Dan]

It does seem we are pretty dogshit at recruitment. Not so much identification but we can’t close, When is the last time we won a trade battle for a player who had genuine interest from other clubs?

 

[Guido]

It does seem we are pretty dogshit at recruitment. Not so much identification but we can’t close, When is the last time we won a trade battle for a player who had genuine interest from other clubs?

I know Keith had done a medical at Saints.

Saints were also interested in Treloar (not sure he was keen on them).

Liam Jones had a few clubs keen on him.

Not a great strike rate, but if clubs take massive risks 50% above market $$/+ extra years wise (Saints/Silvagni), or have a player's ex-assistant coach with an existing relationship (Mitchell/Barrass), sometimes you're gonna lose out.

But I reckon about 40% of the time with the over the odds contracts we've put forward, it's ends up being a blessing in disguise that it hasn't gone through (Matty Bate, Gumbleton, Dawes, we offered Jon Patton 5 years/900k before his ACL in 2014 -approx $1.5mil p.a. in today's salary cap dollars - there was also Wingard) leaving assets/resources to invest elsewhere, including retaining our own players.

 

[Dav1d]

It does seem we are pretty dogshit at recruitment. Not so much identification but we can’t close, When is the last time we won a trade battle for a player who had genuine interest from other clubs?

Probably been 15-20 years now
Do we have some sort of stigma surrounding us? Because it does sometimes certainly feel that way
Like the whole small club thing won’t get shaken up until we land some more marketable players
Which is what Bailey Smith was, JUH could have been and what Zak Butters would be

 

[wian]

I have to admit it's totally embarrassing that players are choosing St Kilda as a destination club over us.

In all seriousness what a joke

 

[adogsfan5]

I have to admit it's totally embarrassing that players are choosing St Kilda as a destination club over us.

In all seriousness what a joke

Who are you disappointed in missing out on, in fairness?
Do you wanna pay TDK $1.7mil?
Wanna offer Silvangi 5 x 850?
Wanna pay Leek 800-900k a year?

 

[Optimistic Dog]

It does seem we are pretty dogshit at recruitment. Not so much identification but we can’t close, When is the last time we won a trade battle for a player who had genuine interest from other clubs?

Probably Simon Beasley.

 

[TiAn_]

Who are you disappointed in missing out on, in fairness?
Do you wanna pay TDK $1.7mil?
Wanna offer Silvangi 5 x 850?
Wanna pay Leek 800-900k a year?

I still can’t get my head around that they’re paying Tom De Konning double what we’re paying for Tim English, for an extra 3 years

 

[dogsuperfan]

It does seem we are pretty dogshit at recruitment. Not so much identification but we can’t close, When is the last time we won a trade battle for a player who had genuine interest from other clubs?

It’s a good thing we have arguably the best drafting team in the league along with father son, we might have been relegated otherwise.

 

[dogsuperfan]

We should’ve just offered SDK a million dollars when he was still unsigned. I don’t even care if that’s overs for him.

 

[bobs head soup]

The idea that Power is sitting around sipping lattes is completely ridiculous.

Just look at those eyes. He's a ristretto man every day of the week.

 

[BulldogMuscle]

The idea that Power is sitting around sipping lattes is completely ridiculous.

Just look at those eyes. He's a ristretto man every day of the week.

Large long black, quad shot, boiling water, no sugar.

 

[Dogs Rule]

As a junior, Merrett played for Cobden Football Club and as a kid supported the Western Bulldogs.

Merrett’s camp has also made contact with Collingwood and the Western Bulldogs, according to the report.


Wonder if he'll meet with Bevo or Sammy P?

 

[bobs head soup]

Large long black, quad shot, boiling water, no sugar.

Invigorating after the 5am cold shower.

 

[F6Typhoon]

Got all excited!

Alas, wrong code!