List Mgmt. 2025 Draft/Trade/FA Thread – everything must go!

[Scythe]

Just pinning this, as per previous years. Thanks as always to Lore.

Final trade/FA period results
Out:

• Charlie Spargo
• Judd McVee
• Christian Petracca
• Clayton Oliver
• Picks 28, 42 and 61
• Melbourne Second-Rounder (2026)
• Melbourne Third-Rounder (2026)
• Melbourne Fourth-Rounder (2026)
• Melbourne Fourth-Rounder (2027)

In:

• Jack Steele
• Changkuoth Jiath
• Brody Mihocek
• Max Heath
• Oscar Berry (Rookie)
• Picks 7, 8, 37 and 71 (2025)
• GC First-Rounder (2026)
• GWS Third-Rounder (2026)
• GC Third-Rounder (2027)

 

[Scythe]

Doesn't matter if he kicks and screams, Collingwood literally have nothing to trade (besides what they potentially get for Hill). Blew what little capital they had on Houston last year.

 

[Bluelegs]

Doesn't matter if he kicks and screams, Collingwood literally have nothing to trade (besides what they potentially get for Hill). Blew what little capital they had on Houston last year.

The only thing would be Bobby Hill but there'd be a worry that we're just importing a second Oliver.

 

[Scythe]

The only thing would be Bobby Hill but there'd be a worry that we're just importing a second Oliver.

Think it's more likely that Hill goes West and they try to package up whatever draft capital they get from him for Petracca (which still won't be enough).

 

[The Dr]

There was rumours McCreerey was disgruntled (probably not true) but he’d be a great get if Coll players are involved.

 

[dazzledavey36]

Wouldn't be surprised if Adelaide came calling for Petracca.

 

[Bluelegs]

Wouldn't be surprised if Adelaide came calling for Petracca.

Can't see him moving to Adelaide and not sure they could satisfy us. Sydney or Brisbane probably the only clubs he'd move interstate for imo.

 

[wingersclub]

Trac loves a holiday on the Gold Coast so why not have a long holiday up there and send some first round picks on the plane down to us

 

[I Love Lamb]

time to nuffy

Trac & 23 for Flander, pick 6 and pick 14

Get in his ear Hardwick, you need players with premiership experience.

 

[Guy Threepwood]

Trac loves a holiday on the Gold Coast so why not have a long holiday up there and send some first round picks on the plane down to us

Trac wanting to play on the Gold Coast would certainly help facilitate a Flanders trade if he wanted to come to us.

 

[wingersclub]

Trac wanting to play on the Gold Coast would certainly help facilitate a Flanders trade if he wanted to come to us.

Yep! I could live with Trac in a Suns guernsey but not a Pies or Hawks

 

[Lord Nev]

 

[Toump Ass]

No quotes at all re: Petracca's teammates saying he was going through the motions, sensationalist herald-sun junk.

 

[Lord Nev]

The complicated case of Christian Petracca

5

Christian Petracca

Age

29

Ht

187cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.4

5star

K

9.5

4star

HB

9.8

5star

M

3.5

4star

T

3.0

5star

CL

2.5

4star

D

24.4

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

14.0

5star

M

3.5

3star

T

3.6

4star

CL

3.4

4star

D

19.0

5star

K

7.8

3star

HB

11.2

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.0

4star

this off-season​

Christian Petracca

5

Christian Petracca

Age

29

Ht

187cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.4

5star

K

9.5

4star

HB

9.8

5star

M

3.5

4star

T

3.0

5star

CL

2.5

4star

D

24.4

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

14.0

5star

M

3.5

3star

T

3.6

4star

CL

3.4

4star

D

19.0

5star

K

7.8

3star

HB

11.2

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.0

4star

tried to leave Melbourne last year. But where do things sit 12 months later? Jon Ralph has more on what might unlock a complex deal, plus where his teammates stand.

As with most things involving Christian Petracca

5

Christian Petracca

Age

29

Ht

187cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.4

5star

K

9.5

4star

HB

9.8

5star

M

3.5

4star

T

3.0

5star

CL

2.5

4star

D

24.4

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

14.0

5star

M

3.5

3star

T

3.6

4star

CL

3.4

4star

D

19.0

5star

K

7.8

3star

HB

11.2

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.0

4star

, it is complicated.

In an ideal world Petracca would chase success at a rival club next year, 12 months on from his aborted trade request.

He would find a fresh start at a new club free of the baggage that still weighs him down after the terrible aftermath of his King’s Birthday injuries.

Back in 2024 as the Demons seemed to be imploding he was keen to get to a club like Carlton or Collingwood that he believed would be in the premiership window.

But the Demons couldn’t consider it because it would paint a picture of a club imploding.

Simon Goodwin

Simon Goodwin

Age

48

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.9

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

8.8

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.5

4star

No current season stats available

D

9.4

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

2.2

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.2

4star

was coaching for his career (unsuccessfully as it turned out) and a Demons outfit desperately trying to paint a picture as a happy family instead tried to resuscitate the relationship.

It has only partly worked.

Twelve months on Petracca deserves a huge amount of credit for putting his head down and cranking out a 23-game season that saw him finish behind only Max Gawn

11

Max Gawn

Age

33

Ht

209cm

Wt

110kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

6.7

4star

CL

2.8

4star

HO

35.3

5star

D

18.5

4star

K

11.5

4star

HB

7.0

4star

CL

3.5

4star

HO

29.2

5star

D

8.4

3star

K

3.6

2star

HB

4.8

4star

CL

1.0

3star

HO

15.6

5star

in the club best-and-fairest.

It doesn’t mean he isn’t still keen to look around and consider whether there is a club that would progress his premiership ambitions if the Demons were keen to trade him.

The problem is that Petracca is due vast sums in the next four years, Hawthorn is all in on Zach Merrett instead, and any trade which actually benefited the Demons would be incredibly hard to broker.

So both sides might end up calling an uneasy truce or the trade period might provide the solutions to both.

In an ideal world with a super draft only months away and rival clubs laden with young key position forwards they were happy to trade, Petracca would be on his way with a minimum of fuss.

But this is not that year, so it would take a special combination of early draft selections or that Melbourne missing link – an established key forward - for the Demons to really jump at the chance to trade Petracca.

Petracca has said all the right things about being committed in his rare sponsor-linked media appearances this year.

But only he would know if his teammates’ suspicions are true - that he has gone through the motions instead of fully immersing himself in rebuilding this club’s culture from the ashes.

Coach Steven King

Steven King

Age

47

Ht

201cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.8

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

4.9

4star

CL

1.3

3star

HO

16.8

5star

No current season stats available

D

11.8

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

5.4

4star

HO

8.8

5star

will need to have brutally honest conversations with Petracca about whether he is committed to playing his entire career out at Melbourne or will at some stage jump ship.

His teammates certainly suspect that he does not want to be at Melbourne next year.

If that is the case, right now is the right time to trade him as he hits 30 in January with maximum trade value.

King said in his press conference on Monday he was keen to retain the club’s established talent including Oliver and Petracca.

“Absolutely. They’re both superstars in the competition for what they’ve done, so to get the opportunity to work with those guys and get them back to playing their best footy would be something that I would pride myself on as a coach,” he said.

“I’ll be meeting with the list management team later today. I’ve obviously done a lot of research on the list before applying for this position. So, I really admire what’s happened here in the past. I think the experience that we’ve got here, I want to try and keep those experienced players here for as long as possible because premiership players don’t grow on trees and to have them on your side while you’re bringing in the youth of tomorrow and today, that’s going to be a really important part of the way I want our team to play, so that will be something that will probably play out in the next couple of weeks.”

One issue for Petracca finding a new home is that the list of clubs desperate for a player of his calibre who could absorb his salary is very thin.

If he was happy to move anywhere Adelaide would surely be in the market, as would Collingwood, GWS and Fremantle.

But the Pies, Giants and Dockers don’t have cap space to absorb a deal that hits $1.7m and would he move interstate to Adelaide with all his Melbourne-based business interests?

Melbourne doesn’t have a first-round pick this year but the suspicion is that its next premiership window is in 3-5 years, as much as CEO Paul Guerra suggested on Monday finals was the aspiration next year.

So getting back into this draft to continue building on the elite young core – Xavier Lindsay, Harvey Langford, Kosi Pickett, Jake Bowey – has to be a priority.

Guerra is certainly saying all the right things – that Petracca is a contracted superstar, that he is required, that the club wants to help build his off-field portfolio so he exits the game content and generationally wealthy.

But it will be up to King and the list management team to spend the coming weeks deciding if moving on Petracca helps their list build.

Are they patient enough to accept a first-round pick this year and one next year if a club like Adelaide offers up a portfolio of selections?

Is there any key forward in the mix who they could acquire?

The list of key forwards is uncommonly bare.

Patrick Voss is an unrestricted free agent next year but very happy at the Dockers.

Ollie Henry was pushed out of Geelong’s best side this year after 78 goals in the past two seasons but just re-signed and moved to the Cats to play with his brother.

If Damien Hardwick did trade Jed Walter it would be to Carlton as part of a package for Charlie Curnow

30

Charlie Curnow

Age

28

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.3

3star

K

9.7

4star

HB

3.6

3star

M

5.3

5star

T

2.2

4star

G

1.3

5star

No current season stats available

D

10.8

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

4.4

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.8

4star

.

Clubs might try to lure Brody Mihocek

41

Brody Mihocek

Age

32

Ht

192cm

Wt

99kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.9

3star

K

8.2

3star

HB

3.7

3star

M

5.3

5star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.6

5star

D

8.4

2star

K

6.3

3star

HB

2.1

2star

M

4.3

4star

T

1.9

3star

G

1.7

5star

D

10.2

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.6

5star

on three-year deals, while Mitch Lewis is an unrestricted free agent next year and has been squeezed down the pecking order at Hawthorn but is about to play in a preliminary final.

So it is complicated, but only total honesty – from King, from Petracca, from the club’s leaders - will turn uneasy peace into full buy-in or the trade that sets the 2021 Norm Smith Medallist free in coming weeks.

 

[Scythe]

How embarrassing for the rest of the list that a guy 'going through the motions' still beat 44 out of 45 players in the B&F.

 

[Proper Gander]

No, just the one second

Brilliant!

 

[Lord Nev]

Oliver's plan after Demons name King as coach

“He’s a Melbourne person.”

www.sen.com.au

 

[melbun]

How embarrassing for the rest of the list that a guy 'going through the motions' still beat 44 out of 45 players in the B&F.

That has more to do with the vote givers than the player performance.

 

[schmuttt]

Oliver's plan after Demons name King as coach

“He’s a Melbourne person.”

www.sen.com.au

Oh boy

 

[Scythe]

That has more to do with the vote givers than the player performance.

I'm sure the coaches gave him extra votes for going through the motions

 

[Proper Gander]

Oh boy

I still have no idea why you are surprised

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Id be a Melbourne person too if you were paying me that much and every other team who was interested wanted me to rip up my contract

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

No quotes at all re: Petracca's teammates saying he was going through the motions, sensationalist herald-sun junk.

Remember Trac:

 

[Demon Attack]

I love that the club has a sliver of positivity with the new coach speaking and we cop this again.

 

[Proper Gander]

Id be a Melbourne person too if you were paying me that much and every other team who was interested wanted me to rip up my contract

The time for a move was end of 2023. Oliver still had currency - he had coaches award 12 months prior - and teams like Adelaide might have imagined that they could get him reinvested. Maybe they could have, but the whole period was an administrative shit-show where the club was governed by loons that thought keeping a premiership team signed equals more premierships.

There aren’t buyers now. I’m hoping a new coach gets him playing better or if not isn’t shy of dropping him to Casey until he does make the grade.

 

[SugarHealey]

Silvagni turns 28 this year though. I thought you wanted young players? IMO we're fine for key backs as along as Petty goes back there. Next year we could have Petty, Turner and Howes as our trio of tall backs, add in the possibility of Derksen too, and Lever as the older leader. Tall backs are fine, no need to pay over a million for a very average 194cm back in Salvagni.

This year's draft is trash, and this is a team we could field next year with ONLY current 25 and unders (a few NQRs marked):

B: McVee, Petty, Howes
HB: AMW, Turner, Bowey
C: Lindsay, Rivers, Culley
HF: Chandler, JVR. Kozzy
F: Henderson, Kentfield, Sharp
R: Heath, Windsor, Langford
IC: Derksen, Tholstrup, Mentha, Sparrow

The hole in our list IMV, is our under 30's....
Those younger then jViney.

23​	McAdam, Shane	53​	30yr 3mth	28 May 1995	186cm​	80kg​	Sturt	Forward
3​	Salem, Christian	199​	30yr 2mth	15 Jul 1995	184cm​	81kg​	Sandringham Dragons	Defender
14​	Billings, Jack	172​	30yr	18 Aug 1995	185cm​	81kg​	Oakleigh Chargers	Midfield Forward
5​	Petracca, Christian	212​	29yr 8mth	4 Jan 1996	187cm​	94kg​	Eastern Ranges	Midfield Forward
15​	Langdon, Ed	202​	29yr 7mth	1 Feb 1996	182cm​	78kg​	Sandringham Dragons	Midfield
8​	Lever, Jake	186​	29yr 6mth	5 Mar 1996	194cm​	94kg​	Calder Cannons	Defender
27​	Hore, MartyR	20​	29yr 6mth	5 Mar 1996	191cm​	84kg​	Collingwood Vfl	Defender
31​	Fritsch, Bayley	171​	28yr 9mth	6 Dec 1996	188cm​	86kg​	Casey Demons	Forward
13​	Oliver, Clayton	205​	28yr 1mth	22 Jul 1997	189cm​	88kg​	Murray Bushrangers	Midfield
33​	Fullarton, Tom	21​	26yr 6mth	23 Feb 1999	200cm​	97kg​	Brisbane Bullets	Forward

Look at our 30's & under...
McAdam; Salem; Billings; Petracca; Langers; Lever???; Hore; Fritsch;

Only Tracca, and Langers are earning they're keep, as far as I'm concerned.

The leadership will be non-existant in two years... and only our young'uns will be left to try to steer a way-wood ship.


Our current 25Yr-Olds are better for depth... starting with Petty at 25Yrs.

35​	Petty, Harrison	101​	25yr 10mth	12 Nov 1999	197cm​	94kg​	Norwood	Defender Forward
9​	Spargo, Charlie	108​	25yr 9mth	25 Nov 1999	172cm​	75kg​	Murray Bushrangers	Forward
37​	Chandler, Kade	79​	25yr 8mth	13 Jan 2000	175cm​	79kg​	Norwood	Midfield Forward
42​	Johnson, Aidan	5​	25yr 6mth	9 Mar 2000	193cm​	92kg​	Werribee	Forward
32​	Sparrow, Tom	117​	25yr 3mth	31 May 2000	183cm​	85kg​	South Adelaide	Midfield Forward
36​	Pickett, Kysaiah	126​	24yr 3mth	2 Jun 2001	171cm​	73kg​	Woodville West Torrens	Midfield Forward
24​	Rivers, Trent	123​	24yr 1mth	30 Jul 2001	188cm​	87kg​	East Fremantle	Defender Midfield
10​	Turner, Daniel	37​	23yr 7mth	28 Jan 2002	194cm​	87kg​	Murray Bushrangers	Defender Forward
16​	Laurie, Bailey	12​	23yr 5mth	24 Mar 2002	179cm​	79kg​	Oakleigh Chargers	Midfield Forward
17​	Bowey, Jake	84​	23yr	12 Sep 2002	175cm​	72kg​	Sandringham Dragons	Defender
30​	Sharp, Harry	34​	22yr 8mth	17 Dec 2002	182cm​	76kg​	Gwv Rebels	Midfield Forward
46​	Culley, JaiR	16​	22yr 6mth	24 Feb 2003	194cm​	91kg​	Dandenong Stingrays	Midfield Forward
40​	Woewodin, Taj	21​	22yr 5mth	26 Mar 2003	182cm​	81kg​	East Fremantle	Defender
22​	Howes, Blake	28​	22yr 5mth	7 Apr 2003	191cm​	82kg​	Sandringham Dragons	Defender
2​	Van Rooyen, Jacob	57​	22yr 4mth	16 Apr 2003	193cm​	96kg​	Claremont	Forward
4​	McVee, JuddR	65​	22yr 1mth	7 Aug 2003	185cm​	76kg​	East Fremantle	Defender

And many of this group are limited in what they can deliver.
.........................

Add in a small forward and a flexible mid in the 22-25 year old age group and that's a really solid group IMV.

I think our list has the beginnings of a solid list for the future... but I am not as optimistic as you, in the thinking that a new star small player will change our fortunes into a finals side.
I think not.

I think our midfield fortunes are poor, over the next 2 or so seasons.
Langers, Lindsay, Langford and Windsor will be 2Yrs off being capable as insiders.

In that time frame we will be signing off on May, Gawn, Viney, tMac, Tracca, Langdon Melk, and Fritsch.

We do not have the replacements for these guys yet.