Banter FOOTY Banter! - Who will be better in 2026? Carlton or Collingwood Part 8

[Wosh]

Who do you see finishing higher in 2025

Who is positioned better from a list/team perspective?

Let the games begin…

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Part One is here

Banter - Who will be better in 2024? Carlton or Collingwood?

Mainly here so we can enjoy the LOLs afterwards at the end of 2023, but also an interesting discussion point. I’m in genuine two minds and can’t call it, but who do you see finishing higher in 2023? Who is positioned better from a list/team perspective? Let the games begin… Mod Note: This is...

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Banter - Who will be better in 2024? Carlton or Collingwood? Part 2

Mainly here so we can enjoy the LOLs afterwards at the end of 2023, but also an interesting discussion point. I’m in genuine two minds and can’t call it, but who do you see finishing higher in 2023? Who is positioned better from a list/team perspective? Let the games begin… Mod Note: This is...

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Banter - Who will be better in 2025, Carlton or Collingwood? Part 3

Mainly here so we can enjoy the LOLs afterwards at the end of 2024, but also an interesting discussion point. Who do you see finishing higher in 2024? Who is positioned better from a list/team perspective? Let the games begin… Mod Note: This is a thread for BANTER and giving and taking a bit...

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Banter - Who will be Better in 2025, Collingwood or Carlton? Part 4

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Banter - Who will be better in 2025? Carlton or Collingwood Part 5

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Banter - FOOTY Banter! - Who will be better in 2025? Carlton or Collingwood Part 6

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Part 7 is here

Banter - FOOTY Banter! - Who will be better in 2025? Carlton or Collingwood Part 7

Who do you see finishing higher in 2025 Who is positioned better from a list/team perspective? Let the games begin… Mod Note: This is a thread for BANTER and giving and taking a bit of the mickey. Enter at your own risk! However this does NOT mean name calling, personal abuse, injury...

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[Black Haze]

Two big clubs with mature lists that don't have a lot of young players, with many people suggesting said clubs need to focus on the draft and bring in youth to rejuvenate their lists. Collingwood clearly have the best young player in Nick Daicos but which club has the better youth overall? As a neutral, would you rather Collingwood's youth or Carlton's youth if you had to choose between the two?

 

[Pistol Night]

Carlton clearly. Thats the price you pay for finishing around the mark for an extended period. Although its not as though they're exactly kicking it in the dick with youth either

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Two big clubs with mature lists that don't have a lot of young players, with many people suggesting said clubs need to focus on the draft and bring in youth to rejuvenate their lists. Collingwood clearly have the best young player in Nick Daicos but which club has the better youth overall? As a neutral, would you rather Collingwood's youth or Carlton's youth if you had to choose between the two?

I genuinely can't think of more than 3 Collingwood players under the age of 23 who haven't looked like busts at AFL level. They also have no draft picks and no real movable assets that will be them anything good.

Cliff is fast approaching it would seem.

 

[NetworkNerd]

Blues have quite a lot of players that havent turned 22 that have made their debut

Motlop
O.Hollands
Binns
Cowan
O'Keeffe
Lord
Moir
Wilson
Carroll
O'Farrell
L.Camporeale

Plus Ben Camporeale, Jagga Smith and Harry Dean to debut and Cody Walker in 2027

Collingwood have
Harvey Harrison
Ed Allan
Jakob Ryan
Tew Jiath
Charlie West
Will Hayes

Not alot on the pies list in terms of youth

 

[10571z]

And all we heard was that the return of a 32yo Tom Mitchell was going to boost your midfield and take you to glory.

Did he even get a game? Now on the brink of being delisted.

Not to mention the pumping up of Fin Macrae.. yuck.

FWIW TDK could be a generational ruck, has the tools. Will certainly be a big loss - but not worth what St Kilda are paying him.

Sorry, but I’m actually a little confused.

Tom Mitchell literally won a flag with us not to mention was the player who won the ball and was taken high in the last stoppage of the game to give us control to run the clock down.

I know as a Carlton supporter you were probably holidaying in Shepparton while this was going on but he genuinely was a key to winning us a flag.

 

[10571z]

I wasn't talking up Finn Macrae. It's like talking up Carroll ...

Every team has a list like that of players who might develop into long termers. You just rate them higher because they've played more seniors than they would have if you were in contention this year.

Someone get the hard drive out of Carlton draft fails

 

[CarmenSandiego]

I wasn't talking up Finn Macrae. It's like talking up Carroll ...

Every team has a list like that of players who might develop into long termers. You just rate them higher because they've played more seniors than they would have if you were in contention this year.

3x 2025 RS star noms in that list, so it’s not bad. I don’t think they’ll be superstars - but if we can develop them into upgrades on guys like Acres then we should improve.

 

[CarmenSandiego]

Sorry, but I’m actually a little confused.

Tom Mitchell literally won a flag with us not to mention was the player who won the ball and was taken high in the last stoppage of the game to give us control to run the clock down.

I know as a Carlton supporter you were probably holidaying in Shepparton while this was going on but he genuinely was a key to winning us a flag.

I’m referring to the circus in here talking him up all of post-2024 & pre-2025.

His absence in 2024 was apparently a huge reason you were shit, and his return this year was going to bolster you back into contention.

 

[CarmenSandiego]

Someone get the hard drive out of Carlton draft fails

Yeah wow I wouldn’t be throwing stones here. Collingwood are absolutely awful drafters. In the past 10 years from the rookie/national drafts (excluding F/S & NGA, those that remain AFL standard are:

Brody Mihochek
Oliver Henry (arguable AFL standard)
Beau McReery
Jack Ginnivan
Ned Long
John Noble

Literally 5-6 players (only 2 of them remain on your list) out of 40-50 picks.

Collingwood are shit drafters because they openly admit they don’t like the draft.

 

[10571z]

Yeah wow I wouldn’t be throwing stones here. Collingwood are absolutely awful drafters. In the past 10 years from the rookie/national drafts (excluding F/S & NGA, those that remain AFL standard are:

Brody Mihochek
Oliver Henry (arguable AFL standard)
Beau McReery
Jack Ginnivan
Ned Long
John Noble

Literally 5-6 players (only 2 of them remain on your list) out of 40-50 picks.

Collingwood are shit drafters because they openly admit they don’t like the draft.

Are you going to flex your top 10 picks due to finishing down the bottom after year after year

Well if your going to sleep better at night because you think Carlton are better drafters that Collingwood good luck. Enjoy your 31 year drought

 

[Fadge]

I’m referring to the circus in here talking him up all of post-2024 & pre-2025.

His absence in 2024 was apparently a huge reason you were shit, and his return this year was going to bolster you back into contention.

Well...

Despite Mitchell not playing much in 2025, the Pies rebounded and contended for the premiership.

So there is that...

 

[CarmenSandiego]

Well...

Despite Mitchell not playing much in 2025, the Pies rebounded and contended for the premiership.

So there is that...

They didn’t contend AND Mitchell didn’t fire a shot. So you were wrong on both fronts.. which is nothing new.

Any tips for today? I might break open the Sportsbet account.

 

[CarmenSandiego]

Are you going to flex your top 10 picks due to finishing down the bottom after year after year

Well if your going to sleep better at night because you think Carlton are better drafters that Collingwood good luck. Enjoy your 31 year drought

No, just highlighting your stupidity in saying Carlton are shit drafters, whilst supporting Collingwood.

 

[10571z]

No, just highlighting your stupidity in saying Carlton are shit drafters, whilst supporting Collingwood.

You are shit drafters. Anyone can nail top picks it’s about finding gems

Murphy
Maynard
Sidebotton
Moore
Quaynor
pendles
Miochek
Elliot
McCreery
degoey
Cox
Daicos
Daicos
Ginnivan

We’re all drafted into the club and won a premiership. Something no Carlton player has done for over 3 decades

 

[Corn Cobbers]

So another year of the Pies contending for a flag while the Blues wallowed in basement scum, can't wait for 2026

 

[carlton_99]

You are shit drafters. Anyone can nail top picks it’s about finding gems

Murphy
Maynard
Sidebotton
Moore
Quaynor
pendles
Miochek
Elliot
McCreery
degoey
Cox
Daicos
Daicos
Ginnivan

We’re all drafted into the club and won a premiership. Something no Carlton player has done for over 3 decades

Who of those players listed earlier that Carlton have drafted recently has been a top pick?

 

[CarmenSandiego]

You are shit drafters. Anyone can nail top picks it’s about finding gems

Murphy
Maynard
Sidebotton
Moore
Quaynor
pendles
Miochek
Elliot
McCreery
degoey
Cox
Daicos
Daicos
Ginnivan

We’re all drafted into the club and won a premiership. Something no Carlton player has done for over 3 decades

‘It’s about finding gems’

Goes on to include:

3x F/S
1x NGA
1x player drafted 20 years ago via a priority pick
1x player drafted 17 years ago
1x player that was technically traded in (Elliott) 14 years ago
1x pick 5
1x player that improved after you turfed him

Collingwood are rubbish drafters, theyve bragged about not investing in it for ages and it’s about to bite them in the ass.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

You are shit drafters. Anyone can nail top picks it’s about finding gems

Murphy
Maynard
Sidebotton
Moore
Quaynor
pendles
Miochek
Elliot
McCreery
degoey
Cox
Daicos
Daicos
Ginnivan

We’re all drafted into the club and won a premiership. Something no Carlton player has done for over 3 decades

Carltons got a better record at the draft of late than the Pies.

Who was the last gun the Pies drafted that wasn't already club tied via F/S or NGA?

 

[CarmenSandiego]

Carltons got a better record at the draft of late than the Pies.

Who was the last gun the Pies drafted that wasn't already club tied via F/S or NGA?

I highlighted this, however the rebuttal was listing players they got via F/S & NGA.

Weird.

 

[Corn Cobbers]

Carltons got a better record at the draft of late than the Pies.

Who was the last gun the Pies drafted that wasn't already club tied via F/S or NGA?

Blues winning the draft game huh got a trophy?

 

[ZabsBlues]

Good old tickets patting himself on the back. Sounds like school days. “Oh I touched a nerve, I win’. Just a shame you can’t touch Grand Final day.

Sounds like you're a bit of a sook mate.

 

[South of the Yarra]

Grand Final day is such a great day. I know Blues fans under 40 won’t remember the feeling of what it’s like to have your team playing on Grand Final day and Blues fans over 40 have most likely forgotten. It’s amazing so good luck to Cats and Lions fans. The two best teams have made it. Enjoy the moment.

 

[South of the Yarra]

Sounds like you're a bit of a sook mate.

You’re so cute when you get all edgy about how bad the blues are. Such a sweet comment.

 

[10571z]

Carltons got a better record at the draft of late than the Pies.

Who was the last gun the Pies drafted that wasn't already club tied via F/S or NGA?

Hahaha again finishing bottom and drafting people in the top 10 isn’t skilled drafting.

Either way I’ll give you the crown as the world’s best drafters and list managers. Happy?