Rumour Speculation, Rumours, Lies Thread 2025 - Part 2

[Plugger46]

HEY! That avatar of yours is a CrowCast logo bro

I've had the logo for years! Has been my logo on AFL fantasy since 2016 and on here

 

[JPetro83]

As per usual as a crows supporter i am disappointed. Cant wait to hear "organic growth" is our answer to fixing the midfield problem. Only way we end up with a gun Agrade midfield bull is if we draft one and he is from SA which means finishing bottom 4 again and waiting 3-5 years for him to develop. our premiership drought will go well into 30+ years! book it in.

 

[Crow till I die]

The club needs to have already moved on and be right into plan B as time is short and we all know what we need. Go try and shake out one of the young Gold Coast mids thats on the edges and being held out by Rowell and Anderson

 

[xFuzZBaLL]

My guess is demons were weren't budging asking for a player like Rach in exchange for Petracca. It's a shame because he would have been our piecing piece to our midfield debacle

 

[Viva la Mattner]

But they demanded too much at the last minute, that we weren't aware of before getting so far into the process?

Nah

I believe we were keen but then the Oliver news yesterday may have changed our stance

• keep the draft collateral
• still get the mid we need
• cheaper salary cap hit

 

[skam85]

The reality is, the Suns had more in their trade arsenal than we did. Its pretty simple, yet seemingly difficult a normally well reasoned poster such as yourself to understand.

which everyone knew well before Petracca got on the plane to Adelaide.

GC suddenly didn't get extra draft capital in the last week

 

[JPetro83]

Oliver will end up Geelong, GWS or Essendon. book it in

 

[jackster83]

Damn so the generationally hungover Suns leadership team and coaches really sold the awful for food, subpar training facilities and comparable to SA beaches location to Petracca then

He must have seen Lake Springfield the algal bloom.

 

[Slim258]

That's a stretch. We were far progressed into discussions, to the point he actually toured the club, met the coach, did a medical

You're telling me we only found out about the trade cost after doing all of that, and so we backed out at that point?

We would have been fully aware of Melbourne's asking price. If it wasn't feasible for us, it wouldn't have progressed beyond an initial chat and expression of interest

High chance something in the medical returned a result we didn't want, i agree a stretch and a bold call from a new fitness boss.

But there is 1000 reasons we could've walked away and one of those quite clearly could be that we walked away when he has said his preferred destination is the suns, but happy to work with us to get a trade done if the suns falls through - are we really going to waste our trade period focusing on that when we know we can't offer as much trade capital as the suns?

 

[Scorpus]

There's NO version of the latter that you believe is true? His medical couldn't have gone badly? He couldn't have interviewed poorly? Melbourne couldn't have said directly "14 and a future first isnt enough"? Come on.

Would be unlikely that Petracca failed a medical or interview and we only heard about that at the exact moment he chose Gold Coast (where he didn't fail the medical or interview apparently?)

The cost thing we would have been fully aware of.

 

[MarcusP2]

But they demanded too much at the last minute, that we weren't aware of before getting so far into the process?

Nah

The only way it makes sense is if Trac was willing to go to either GC suddenly upped their offer. So unless Melbourne get an absolutely kings ransom in return I reckon it's a 'you can't fire me I quit'.

I mean Melbourne might be asking that considering what they've turned down in the past.

 

[Syd Crow]

There could be a possibility something came bout during the tour. Club doctor/Burgess saw something in the medical they not comfortable with?

Maybe Nicks didn't like him ....lol


You would think Tom Morris would rather report we missed out rather than "walk away".

Media love sinking the boots into us.

He fell asleep when Nicks was talking?

 

[CromradeCromulent]

Would be unlikely that Petracca failed a medical or interview and we only heard about that at the exact moment he chose Gold Coast (where he didn't fail the medical or interview apparently?)

The cost thing we would have been fully aware of.

Gold Coast is Gold Coast, picks grow on trees for them and have never held the same value as they do for us.

 

[Crowmurder]

I do know that Trac is on 1.2mill/yr for the rest of his contract with CBA % increase clauses. So not the 1.4mill+ figures getting thrown around. So based off this and the fact we would not have been absorbing a ridiculous contract, would naturally mean Melb would be wanting more capital of higher pick(s)/player. Whereas if we were taking on a bad 1.4mill+ contract they could not expect the same return for what would have been a salary dump.

 

[Geoffa32]

If we were willing and able to pay the entire $1.4 to 1.7 million dollars (depending on who you ask) contract of Petracca’s then surely we should be putting that same money infront of Zac Bailey and trying to pry him out of the lions a year early.

Way better fit and the lions and bailey might jump at it especially if we offer the lions 14 and our F1.. with a second or third coming back..

The lions would be thinking the 3 peat is on the cards for them and so if Zac goes as a FA next year they may only get pick 19 next year as compo..

Cash in now.. trust that the rest of your young midfield will improve (which it will) and cover the loss of Bailey next season.. the lions are stacked.

The lions could never offer Bailey $1.4 a season.. nowhere near it with all their talent and their trade target this year which must be a decent sized contract given it is going to net West Coast pick 2 as compo..

Lions then have decent draft picks to continue adding talent to their list.

Win for them and us IMO..

Move all chips into the middle of the Bailey board please mofo’s..

Bailey is the best of all three (Bailey/Teac/Oliver) IMO

I am big fan of his.

 

[feenix67]

That's a stretch. We were far progressed into discussions, to the point he actually toured the club, met the coach, did a medical

You're telling me we only found out about the trade cost after doing all of that, and so we backed out at that point?

We would have been fully aware of Melbourne's asking price. If it wasn't feasible for us, it wouldn't have progressed beyond an initial chat and expression of interest

You forget that he didn't tell Melbourne he wanted out until after he'd visited us. He visited us on the basis that Melbourne were happy for him to "explore options". Im not naive enough to think this all came out of the blue, but its not a stretch to think that we were approached by his management with an expression of interest, had him over here for both parties to do due diligence, then when he expressed he might be keen, we've gone to Melbourne to talk deal. Then, having come away from that with knowledge of what was going to get it done, had a list management meeting and gone "yeah, nah". Or, told Christian we were prepared to negotiate with Melbourne but it was going to be tough and we might not be able to make a deal work, and Christian has gone well I really want to go and GC can make the deal happen, so I will go there.

None of the above is a logical stretch if you're not suffering from Crows PTSD.

 

[moogerfooger]

You have to examine the news logically.

Under what circumstances does it make sense that we would genuinely "walk away"?

Not as in "we walked away after he chose Gold Coast because we had no choice", but "we actively walked away from this deal before Petracca made a decision"?

There is no version of the latter that I believe is true.

Why does it matter? Trade week is 99% spin from every angle. Always has been, always will be.

 

[Crow till I die]

If we were willing and able to pay the entire $1.4 to 1.7 million dollars (depending on who you ask) contract of Petracca’s then surely we should be putting that same money infront of Zac Bailey and trying to pry him out of the lions a year early.

Way better fit and the lions and bailey might jump at it especially if we offer the lions 14 and our F1.. with a second or third coming back..

The lions would be thinking the 3 peat is on the cards for them and so if Zac goes as a FA next year they may only get pick 19 next year as compo..

Cash in now.. trust that the rest of your young midfield will improve (which it will) and cover the loss of Bailey next season.. the lions are stacked.

The lions could never offer Bailey $1.4 a season.. nowhere near it with all their talent and their trade target this year which must be a decent sized contract given it is going to net West Coast pick 2 as compo..

Lions then have decent draft picks to continue adding talent to their list.

Win for them and us IMO..

Move all chips into the middle of the Bailey board please mofo’s..

He'd be a super get for us. The lions have Annable coming in who is a mid likely to get a very high bid and Levi Ashcroft will be better again so they could offload him IF they wanted and still stay at the very top

 

[Danger in Texas]

Bailey is the best of all three (Bailey/Teac/Oliver) IMO

I am big fan of his.

Probably, but he won’t be available until 2026

Need to find a way to strike somewhat while the iron’s hot

 

[Cromulant]

which everyone knew well before Petracca got on the plane to Adelaide.

GC suddenly didn't get extra draft capital in the last week

Thats a fair assessment, however you still have to bring him to the club to do the medicals etc.

Its not necessarily the trade capital as such, its whether we were willing to part with the capital we have.

 

[feenix67]

I've had the logo for years! Has been my logo on AFL fantasy since 2016 and on here

 

[radiojake]

it was nice for a while to think we were getting a big fish with no SA connections

didn't even actually make it to the official start of trade week though

 

[Geoffa32]

Would be unlikely that Petracca failed a medical or interview and we only heard about that at the exact moment he chose Gold Coast (where he didn't fail the medical or interview apparently?)

The cost thing we would have been fully aware of.

Gold Coast less risk adverse than us?Plus they have two elite mids.

We have zero.

Putting all the eggs in the Petracca basket after seeing something not great in a medical may have been a factor.


With us Trac is the main man.

 

[adelaidecrows]

But they demanded too much at the last minute, that we weren't aware of before getting so far into the process?

Nah

There was no need if Melbourne were going to be reasonable. They werent so why waste anymore time.

 

[ams4crows]

We walked away?? FFS