List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 3

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List Changes - 2025

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In:

• Brandon Starcevich arrives at West Coast in a three team deal
• Tylar Young (Richmond) arrived at West Coast in exchange for Pick 38.
• Deven Robertson (Brisbane) has agreed to join West Coast and will be signed on to the rookie list after being delisted by Brisbane

Out:

• Oscar Allen joins Brisbane as a FA - West Coast receive Pick 2 as compensation
• Liam Ryan and a 2027 R3 pick has been traded to St Kilda for a 2026 R2 pick
• Campbell Chesser has been traded to Carlton for Pick 41
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle, Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Coen Livingstone joins the list of players not offered a new contract

Players Out of Contract - 2025 (0)

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• Jamie Cripps and Malakai Champion seem to have been offered new contracts despite there being no official announcement. Means that all players out of contract for 2025 have been given new contracts despite or removed from the playing list

2025 Draft Order

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Current Draft Picks:
Round 1: 1, 2, 13
Round 2: 34, 41
Round 3: 53, 58 (These picks are in excess of available list spots so will be forfeited if we don’t consolidate our 2025 picks up the order or trade some for future picks)

List Spots Available (39 of 48):
• Main list (33 of 38) - 5* (in: Starcevich, Young out: Allen, Ryan, Chesser, Hunt, Petruccelle, Jamieson)
• Cat A rookie list (5 of 8) - 3* (in: Robertson (pending), out: Rawlinson)
• Cat B rookie list (1 of 2) - 2 (out: Livingstone)

* Based on Dewar being upgraded after the maximum 3 years on the rookie list. Hutchinson may also have been upgraded but this isn’t confirmed - if it is we will have 4 main and 4 rookie list spots open

* Matthew Clarke has stated we have 5 main list spots

Matt Clarke wraps up the trade period - 6PR

 

[Elite Pete]

Apparently the picks Cal was referring to were that STK are offering an F3 for Ryan and then their F2 for GWS F3 and Aleer.

Wouldn’t clean out your locker just yet Liam.

Didn’t he write talks underway for pick swaps? That’s not a pick swap

 

[eaglevision]

How does the mini draft work?

2026 17yo mini draft (two picks only each year) similar to the one GWS had access to, kids born between January 1 and April 30, 2009 are eligible.

For reference pick #1 (Jack Martin) cost GCS pick #2 in the national draft in 2012.

 

[Barrybran]

Unless Steele is on the table I can’t see how St Kilda have the assets to secure Flyin Ryan. Happy to hold him to his contract if a suitable deal can’t be done. He was good this year. Will be just as good or better with Waterman back and a year older Shanahan building chemistry.

Given St Kilda are giving pick 8 to Gold Coast and we're looking at pick 8, it can work as a three-way trade.

WCE
OUT: 17, Ryan
IN: 8

STK
OUT: 8, F3
IN: Flanders, Ryan

GCS
OUT: Flanders
IN: 17, F3

 

[timeforanother22]

Your loss if you don’t read them all - we’ve signed Bont, Warner and Neale

With no spelling mistakes

 

[Bluke]

Given St Kilda are giving pick 8 to Gold Coast and we're looking at pick 8, it can work as a three-way trade.

WCE
OUT: 17, Ryan
IN: 8

STK
OUT: 8, F3
IN: Flanders, Ryan

GCS
OUT: Flanders
IN: 17, F3

I like this, saints too, but would GCS do this though?

 

[eaglevision]

Didn’t he write talks underway for pick swaps? That’s not a pick swap

Believe it or don’t believe it but that’s the offer for Ryan and Aleer.

 

[Bacchus]

SK - Buy everything, sell nothing, few draft picks.

Not quite sure how that works.

Ryan for a future 3rd. Beyond laughable. GTFO Ross.

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

It's Pattinson, idiots.

Son of Patton?

 

[Barrybran]

I like this, saints too, but would GCS do this though?

Probably unders for Gold Coast but I think we can make this work for them

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Didn’t he write talks underway for pick swaps? That’s not a pick swap

F3 for Ryan & F4?

 

[TY24]

Someone's updated Starcevich's Footywire already lol

Brandon Starcevich AFL Fantasy Statistics

Brandon Starcevich AFL Fantasy stats. Includes historical and current season data.

www.footywire.com

 

[TY24]

Obviously not playing our cards, bid Annable pick 1 or PSD threat.

Happy to be corrected but I'm 90% sure that RFA's cannot nominate for the PSD, they have to go to the National Draft.

 

[eaglevision]

WCE
OUT: 17, Ryan
IN: 8

STK
OUT: 8, F3
IN: Flanders, Ryan

GCS
OUT: Flanders
IN: 17, F3

More like

WCE
OUT: 17, 24, Ryan
IN: 8

STK
OUT: 8, 19 (GEEL 1R for Marshall)
IN: Flanders, Ryan, 37 (Fincher match)

GCS
OUT: Flanders, 37
IN: 17,19,24

Who’s calling SOS?

 

[Barrybran]

More like

WCE
OUT: 17, 24, Ryan
IN: 8

STK
OUT: 8, 19 (GEEL 1R for Marshall)
IN: Flanders, Ryan, 37 (Fincher match)

GCS
OUT: Flanders, 37
IN: 17,19,24

Who’s calling SOS?

We're giving Ryan away for free here. Swap 24 for 38.

 

[kranky al]

Interesting developments with Jack Steele today.

I have been very firm that he is the guy we should be pursuing to bring across as genuine inside experience for the midfield and it is interesting to see that the Saints have given him a nudge out the door after appearing that wasn't quite on the agenda.

I think it has taken Steele by surprise a little - and his initial reaction that his manager is putting out to Tom Morris that he wants to stay and just be a 'player' for the Saints and be part of their seemingly confirmed upcoming period of success. Let's leave that part alone for now.

I saw an initial suggestion that WCE was a firm 'No.' for Steele.
It would be a shame if he was completely closed to the opportunity but if he's still thinking he wants to stay at the Saints, then he's probably not thinking about uprooting his life and moving to the other side of the country to play out his days as a 'mentor for the kids' in a terrible side. Great players have done it - Luke Hodge for example - but for the most part it's guys who have enjoyed a measure of success. Steele hasn't.

Then there is word that Adelaide might be keen. Interesting. I do wonder if he's really slotting into that Adelaide side, where a guy like Matt Crouch has just finished his days injured and in the SANFL. There would also be the matter of his salary.
That all said - if Adelaide is keen, nobody would blame Steele for going down that road - he could find himself in a better position on the ladder than he ever has.

....but that all said, if the guy can't get his head around the fact that the club he has been captaining for a few years has told him to 'consider his options' and is keen to see out his deal with the Saints.....then he's probably not the guy for us anyway - we need guys who are 100% on board for the next few years, not a guy we need to twist the arm of to see an opportunity.

Interesting to see how it plays out!

Too slow for the modern game in the midfield

 

[Mop]

SK - Buy everything, sell nothing, few draft picks.

Not quite sure how that works.

Ryan for a future 3rd. Beyond laughable. GTFO Ross.

Also St Kilda - approaching contracted players is disrespectful

 

[twce13]

Flying Ryan for F3 is pretty insulting.

Then again. Can you blame anyone for trying to fleece eagles at the trade table… there’s so much precedence

 

[Jukes]

Glad to see Cal report that we’re looking to combine picks to trade for GC’s Pick 6.

Hopefully that means we not only end up with pick 6 but also means that we don’t succumb to some melt inducing split for pick 2.

 

[dinnaz]

Is there anyone else besides Marshall (and possibly Steele) that the Saints are looking to trade out? They might be able to generate some more currency through that avenue.

Byrnes, probably gets delisted now
Clark, always seems to be in no mans land

 

[WCE777]

Is there anyone else besides Marshall (and possibly Steele) that the Saints are looking to trade out? They might be able to generate some more currency through that avenue.

I haven't seen anything.
You would expect they will get and end of 1st round pick for each as they are contracted for 2 more years.
GEE pick 18, and wherever Steele ends up.
Can't see him leaving VIC so the club with the biggest draft hand and exits would be ESS.

TBH that's Ryan's worth, 20-25 so if we get STK F2nd that ok as we should move some draft capital into next year with Ryan or Chesser trade.
Unless some one pops up in the next little bit with trade and FA period we are probably Starcevich/Young/Dev as the ins at this stage.
If a couple of players get squeezed out of GC like Davies or Humphreys then Davies is a 2nd round pick and Humphreys will be 1 of our 1st round picks.

 

[Ilkka Sinisalo]

Sounds like you're completely oblivious to how a negotiation works. I assume you think one party walks in with the perfect deal and the other shakes on it?

I’m not as high on Ryan’s value as a lot of people, but F3 would be a legitimately insulting offer. Like I’d be pissed off SOS or whoever rang up and offered that. I’d counter-offer a 2027 fourth for Nas.

 

[Rowan18]

I’m not as high on Ryan’s value as a lot of people, but F3 would be a legitimately insulting offer. Like I’d be pissed off SOS or whoever rang up and offered that. I’d counter-offer a 2027 fourth for Nas.

I'd rather keep Ryan (even if he spits the dummy and sits out the year) than take a F3 for him.

I don't want him back though - too lazy and we want guys like Brockman/Dewar/Champion to have room to develop in his position. I'd be telling his manager to line him up with another club (Carlton? Bombers? ).

 

[boondy]

Ryan isn't leaving so that leaves us 3 live picks

 

[Bacchus]

RTB has form.

He traded Lachie Weller for two top five picks - A Brayshaw and Cerra.

Now that’s robbery.

Our team should laugh him out of the room.

 

[BSD]

I haven't seen anything.
You would expect they will get and end of 1st round pick for each as they are contracted for 2 more years.
GEE pick 18, and wherever Steele ends up.
Can't see him leaving VIC so the club with the biggest draft hand and exits would be ESS.

TBH that's Ryan's worth, 20-25 so if we get STK F2nd that ok as we should move some draft capital into next year with Ryan or Chesser trade.
Unless some one pops up in the next little bit with trade and FA period we are probably Starcevich/Young/Dev as the ins at this stage.
If a couple of players get squeezed out of GC like Davies or Humphreys then Davies is a 2nd round pick and Humphreys will be 1 of our 1st round picks.

No way is Ryan worth pick 20-25. that's a high price for someone who has scored a career average of 1.3 goals per game.
I hope The Saints are stupid enough to pay that for someone who is past his peak.