List Mgmt. 2025 Draft/Trade/FA Thread – everything must go!

[Scythe]

Just pinning this, as per previous years. Thanks as always to Lore.

Final trade/FA period results
Out:

• Charlie Spargo
• Judd McVee
• Christian Petracca
• Clayton Oliver
• Picks 28, 42 and 61
• Melbourne Second-Rounder (2026)
• Melbourne Third-Rounder (2026)
• Melbourne Fourth-Rounder (2026)
• Melbourne Fourth-Rounder (2027)

In:

• Jack Steele
• Changkuoth Jiath
• Brody Mihocek
• Max Heath
• Oscar Berry (Rookie)
• Picks 7, 8, 37 and 71 (2025)
• GC First-Rounder (2026)
• GWS Third-Rounder (2026)
• GC Third-Rounder (2027)

 

[Bluelegs]

Doesn't he have 1 year left? I'd imagine they will just give him 2 years (so extend by 1) and up the pay by 100k so it evens out to 500k per year, along with a shitload of behaviour and performance clauses.

Sure which is essentially a totally different contract anyway.

 

[Bluelegs]

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I forsee a five way trade between Gold coast, us, port, Blues and cats where everyone gets what they want except for us.

 

[TheBoss]

Doesn't he have 1 year left? I'd imagine they will just give him 2 years (so extend by 1) and up the pay by 100k so it evens out to 500k per year, along with a shitload of behaviour and performance clauses.

I can’t see why JUH would extend his deal for an extra $100k, especially if it comes with onerous clauses. He stands to earn far more in the long run if he can prove he’s a productive player from 2027 onwards.

In any case, he’ll continue to be paid under his current contract. So as long as he provides evidence that he’s unfit to play (for example, a GP certificate), he’ll be treated the same as any player with a physical injury or illness. All the club can really do is try to get him on a return-to-play/training plan.

The only scenario where the club could try to withhold payment is if the Club Doctor formally determines he’s not ill. But no club in its right mind would invite the backlash that comes from disputing a mental health diagnosis, especially for a player on an expiring deal.

 

[Lord Nev]

I can’t see why JUH would extend his deal for an extra $100k, especially if it comes with onerous clauses. He stands to earn far more in the long run if he can prove he’s a productive player from 2027 onwards.

In any case, he’ll continue to be paid under his current contract. So as long as he provides evidence that he’s unfit to play (for example, a GP certificate), he’ll be treated the same as any player with a physical injury or illness. All the club can really do is try to get him on a return-to-play/training plan.

The only scenario where the club could try to withhold payment is if the Club Doctor formally determines he’s not ill. But no club in its right mind would invite the backlash that comes from disputing a mental health diagnosis, especially for a player on an expiring deal.

JUH doesn't hold the cards though. He will have to either take what's on offer or his career is over. New contracts very often include new terms, so there is nothing stopping the Suns offering the suggested 2 years working out at 500k per year.

The club doctor has nothing to do with it anymore, it's all being managed by the AFL. They could very well step in and say he's not ready for AFL football again due to his mental state. Works both ways.

 

[Mop]

6 pages of a bunch of campaigners I don't know saying hi to each other and calling cleary a campaigner.

Give everyone a week off

Hi topkent!

 

[PerfectFooty]

Hi topkent!

This has more substance than we get in this thread every other day of the year

 

[MarcMaverick]

Hi topkent!

Hi Mop. Good to see you again.

 

[Daemon]

I can’t see why JUH would extend his deal for an extra $100k, especially if it comes with onerous clauses. He stands to earn far more in the long run if he can prove he’s a productive player from 2027 onwards.

In any case, he’ll continue to be paid under his current contract. So as long as he provides evidence that he’s unfit to play (for example, a GP certificate), he’ll be treated the same as any player with a physical injury or illness. All the club can really do is try to get him on a return-to-play/training plan.

The only scenario where the club could try to withhold payment is if the Club Doctor formally determines he’s not ill. But no club in its right mind would invite the backlash that comes from disputing a mental health diagnosis, especially for a player on an expiring deal.

The guy holds no cards at all. He is the one tanking his career. If he wants to keep playing footy at the highest level he will take whatever he can get. I'm surprised any club is even considering him.

 

[MarcMaverick]

The guy holds no cards at all. He is the one tanking his career. If he wants to keep playing footy at the highest level he will take whatever he can get. I'm surprised any club is even considering him.

Especially at GC. It'll be a trainwreck.

 

[TheBoss]

JUH doesn't hold the cards though. He will have to either take what's on offer or his career is over. New contracts very often include new terms, so there is nothing stopping the Suns offering the suggested 2 years working out at 500k per year.

The club doctor has nothing to do with it anymore, it's all being managed by the AFL. They could very well step in and say he's not ready for AFL football again due to his mental state. Works both ways.

Yes, new contracts can include new terms. But clubs can't contract out of the CBA or Fair Work laws.

Do nothing, get paid $900k in 2026.

Do something, get paid $1 million across 2026 and 2027.

He is not extending for a year to guarantee an extra $100k. That's a rookie wage. Country footballers earn more than that!

 

[Lord Nev]

Yes, new contracts can include new terms. But clubs can't contract out of the CBA or Fair Work laws.

Do nothing, get paid $900k in 2026.

Do something, get paid $1 million across 2026 and 2027.

He is not extending for a year to guarantee an extra $100k. That's a rookie wage. Country footballers earn more than that!

Do nothing, get paid $900k in 2026 - Career over.
Do something, get paid $1 million across 2026 and 2027 - And have a career beyond.

He has one chance to continue his career, he doesn't hold the cards to how that looks.

 

[MarcMaverick]

Wouldn't surprise me if we drafted either Paddy Cross or Mitch Hardie.

To be clear, Cross is more in the age range of 23-27Y-O's profile that we are deficient in.

 

[MarcMaverick]

Do nothing, get paid $900k in 2026 - Career over.
Do something, get paid $1 million across 2026 and 2027 - And have a career beyond.

He has one chance to continue his career, he doesn't hold the cards to how that looks.

Well he has been in the system long enough to know and understand what is required to be a professional athelete. It seems that he is just a non-hacker.

 

[Daemon]

Do nothing, get paid $900k in 2026 - Career over.
Do something, get paid $1 million across 2026 and 2027 - And have a career beyond.

He has one chance to continue his career, he doesn't hold the cards to how that looks.

Exactly. He's young. If he turns it all around he could make serious bank and set himself up for the rest of his life. Or piss it all away and end up with nothing.

 

[ABray10]

Yes, new contracts can include new terms. But clubs can't contract out of the CBA or Fair Work laws.

Do nothing, get paid $900k in 2026.

Do something, get paid $1 million across 2026 and 2027.

He is not extending for a year to guarantee an extra $100k. That's a rookie wage. Country footballers earn more than that!

Think you will find there are also requirements to seek treatment and rehabilitate if not fit to play. Hard to see hitting clubs and getting on the piss until early hours of the morning coming under any psychiatric advice. If he has refused to stick to a plan to try and get him back to football he is not meeting his contractual obligations, no different to a player with an ACL smashing some pills and spending 8 hours on a night club floor instead of rehabbing.

 

[danster168]

I know see what that mean by a trash draft. I think Xavier Lindsay would go about 4th in this draft.



Sullivan Robey looks like a Ryan Burton

3

Ryan Burton

Age

28

Ht

191cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.5

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

6.3

4star

M

4.6

4star

T

2.1

4star

MG

277.3

4star

D

16.8

4star

K

12.3

5star

HB

4.5

3star

M

5.0

5star

T

1.0

2star

MG

277.3

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D

13.4

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K

9.0

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.2

4star

clone. He got his kick smothered about 8 times in the highlights package that I watched.

Josh lindsay- Plays like Karl Amon

10

Karl Amon

Age

30

Ht

181cm

Wt

71kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.6

4star

K

9.7

4star

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6.8

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3.4

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T

2.6

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294.5

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21.0

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K

15.0

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6.0

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M

6.0

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2.0

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6.8

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3.6

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M

2.6

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T

2.0

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MG

146.8

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.

Oliver Greeves - best skills in the draft. but looks super slow.

Dyson Sharp - not sure he has a point of differnce

Xavier Taylor - looks like a real goer- Darcy Wilmot vibes. Role player vibes too though.

Lachy Dovaston - Rated at 18 by Cal Twomey. Plays will real energy though.

Sam Cumming - no star factor. But has a crack. Avg skills. Maybe like a Zac Jones type.

Noah Hibbins-Hargreaves: Maybe like a Blake Acres

13

Blake Acres

Age

30

Ht

193cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.5

4star

K

8.9

3star

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8.6

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M

3.7

4star

T

3.2

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CL

1.9

4star

D

12.7

3star

K

5.0

2star

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7.7

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.7

4star

CL

1.0

3star

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8.2

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3.8

2star

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4.4

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M

1.2

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2.4

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CL

1.8

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type.

Jacob Farrow: Josh Ward clone. mosto of his highlights are just kicks in and switching play.

Archie Ludowyke: Looks a bit of a Cadman clone.

 

[Lord Nev]

Sullivan Robey looks like a Ryan Burton clone.

 

[Proper Gander]

been watching a few vids of the draft kids lately and i liked these three. we could do with all three to be honest, but in particular Grlj looks like someone i think we'd be interested in to help us to bounce out of that back half and could also inject speed into our midfield.

How would you even pronounce that? I can only imagine something like Girly, which seems a problematic way to commence an AFL career.

 

[Proper Gander]

Think you will find there are also requirements to seek treatment and rehabilitate if not fit to play. Hard to see hitting clubs and getting on the piss until early hours of the morning coming under any psychiatric advice. If he has refused to stick to a plan to try and get him back to football he is not meeting his contractual obligations, no different to a player with an ACL smashing some pills and spending 8 hours on a night club floor instead of rehabbing.

No doubt his mental health diagnosis takes in high comorbidity risks, hence the tolerance to date, but there must be a point where he would have to demonstrate effort at recovery.

 

[MarcMaverick]

How would you even pronounce that? I can only imagine something like Girly, which seems a problematic way to commence an AFL career.

Maybe its like Gree or Grylj(like grillej) .

 

[Proper Gander]

Maybe its like Gree or Grylj(like grillej) .

Or Grilich - sounds possible

 

[MarcMaverick]

Or Grilich - sounds possible

Yeah, as I said, I like to buy a vowel please.

 

[TheBoss]

Do nothing, get paid $900k in 2026 - Career over.
Do something, get paid $1 million across 2026 and 2027 - And have a career beyond.

He has one chance to continue his career, he doesn't hold the cards to how that looks.

Pure conjecture.

If he wants a career beyond 2026, the smart play is to not extend his deal and bet on himself.

 

[Lord Nev]

Pure conjecture.

If he wants a career beyond 2026, the smart play is to not extend his deal and bet on himself.

Missing the point - Gold Coast might not want to pay him 900k at such a high risk so he might not get that opportunity. The whole point is he doesn't have the power, GC will offer him what works for them and he takes it and tries to turn things around, or leaves it and his career is over.

 

[TheBoss]

Missing the point - Gold Coast might not want to pay him 900k at such a high risk so he might not get that opportunity. The whole point is he doesn't have the power, GC will offer him what works for them and he takes it and tries to turn things around, or leaves it and his career is over.

Bulldogs will likely contribute a fair chunk of his salary to see the back of him.

He won't cost the Suns anywhere close to 900k and will be cheap in terms of trade capital. They would only be tethered to him for 12 months if it doesn't work out. Extending him for more years would be malfeasance by the list manager.