Traded Brandon Starcevich - traded to West Coast as part of a 3-way trade with Brisbane and Fremantle

[leighmo]

if you're going to start making sh*t up, you've got to own it when you are caught out making sh*t up.

Pretty sure I owned it:

Yes, I did think Membrey was a psd pickup but mistook that one, sue me.

Your two "comparisons" in the threat of sending Starcevich to the PSD are not real comparisons for the points I've previously demonstrated.

You’ve demonstrated f*** all.

Your original point doesn't "stand" because neither of them are like what you're claiming they are.

Disagree, Jack Martin case is very similar to this.

Mate--

Stop calling me that. I’m not your friend

 

[txbyhull]

Second least? What do I have to do to leapfrog Briztoon and get to no.1?

blah blah draft something blah list management

 

[Senor M]

Disagree, Jack Martin case is very similar to this.

It really isn't a similar case at all.

• Jack Martin wasn’t a Free Agent.
• Jack Martin's Uncle wasn't coaching the Suns AFLW side
• Jack Martin wasnt a 2-time premiership player
• Jack Martin wasn't moving to get additional midfield minutes

Carlton was criticised for not getting the deal done for Jack Martin; if West Coast doesn't get the deal done they will be criticised. That's about as close as the two cases are.

 

[leighmo]

It really isn't a similar case at all.

• Jack Martin wasn’t a Free Agent.
• Jack Martin's Uncle wasn't coaching the Suns AFLW side
• Jack Martin wasnt a 2-time premiership player
• Jack Martin wasn't moving to get additional midfield minutes

Carlton was criticised for not getting the deal done for Jack Martin; if West Coast doesn't get the deal done they will be criticised. That's about as close as the two cases are.

Oh yeah, totally different — except for the part where an uncontracted player can just walk to his club of choice through the PSD after a deal falls over. Apart from that, completely unrelated.

Jeez, all I’m saying is that it isn’t a myth and that it’s possible. You’re the one arguing inconsequential BS. Take a step back.

 

[beatnik]

Oh yeah, totally different — except for the part where an uncontracted player can just walk to his club of choice through the PSD after a deal falls over. Apart from that, completely unrelated.

Jeez, all I’m saying is that it isn’t a myth and that it’s possible. You’re the one arguing inconsequential BS. Take a step back.

No-one said the PSD isn’t real - the post you’re obsessing over was that PSD leverage only exists in myth, rather than reality

in other words, it’s functionally defunct because it has ceased to be viewed as a realistic or advisable option

Sensor M and others here have explained why that’s the case and why the examples you raised don’t even qualify as isolated outliers or one-offs

So you’re arguing about something that a) you don’t understand AND b) completely misread

Just stop

 

[cotter101]

I look forward to the melts when it’s Starc and Dev for that end of first round pick.

 

[Astro35]

I look forward to the melts when it’s Starc and Dev for that end of first round pick.

If the Eagles give a first round pick for a guy one concussion away from being medically retired, then we should melt. What a terrible deal. Sounds very Eagles like.

 

[Barrybran]

If the Eagles give a first round pick for a guy one concussion away from being medically retired, then we should melt. What a terrible deal. Sounds very Eagles like.

briztoon mentioned on our board last night that Brisbane were looking to consolidate picks. I can see a scenario where we get a pick back as Brisbane have a bunch of thirds and that pick would likely go to Richmond for Young. The Hawks' R1 shouldn't be involved though.

 

[CFC_#17]

If I was listening to manager for the Eagles I would not be giving up anything for Starcevich, it’s either a late pick or through the preseason. Because West coast should just be bidding on Annable at pick 1 if Lions make a fuss.

 

[Soggy2112]

If the Eagles give a first round pick for a guy one concussion away from being medically retired, then we should melt. What a terrible deal. Sounds very Eagles like.

Correct me if I’m wrong but don’t the Eagles sort of have to do it? Starcevich could just walk as a free agent and the Eagles lose their pick 2 Allen compo. West Coast stand to lose far more than the Lions in that scenario, so if it becomes a game of who blinks first, then it’ll definitely be West Coast.

 

[Mop]

Correct me if I’m wrong but don’t the Eagles sort of have to do it? Starcevich could just walk as a free agent and the Eagles lose their pick 2 Allen compo. West Coast stand to lose far more than the Lions in that scenario, so if it becomes a game of who blinks first, then it’ll definitely be West Coast.

They don’t have to. They can walk away or they can play the hot girl at school and be disinterested and play hard to get and tell Starc to apply pressure on his end.



The reality is we aren’t the hot girl at school, we’re the scrawny super poindexter nerdy dude.


I agree the end result will be the PP. The most obvious result since the dinosaurs roamed.

I don’t agree with it, but it’ll likely happen and I’m not even that bothered by it. As the Brisbane fans point out, it’ll blow out and end up about fair value anyway.

If we did bend and give up 16, im going to Min Res Park and burning guernseys.

 

[Purple Suit]

Correct me if I’m wrong but don’t the Eagles sort of have to do it? Starcevich could just walk as a free agent and the Eagles lose their pick 2 Allen compo. West Coast stand to lose far more than the Lions in that scenario, so if it becomes a game of who blinks first, then it’ll definitely be West Coast.

The Free agency period closes Friday so I assume after that the option is gone and no dilution.

Brisbane are then stuck at trade by next Wednesday or get nothing for him. Robinson is the only leverage they now have as I think he’s still got a year to run on his contract.

 

[Mop]

The Free agency period closes Friday so I assume after that the option is gone and no dilution.

Brisbane are then stuck at trade by next Wednesday or get nothing for him. Robinson is the only leverage they now have as I think he’s still got a year to run on his contract.

Dev Rob will be a DFA. He signed a two year extension at the end of the 2023 season

 

[iBeng]

If the Eagles give a first round pick for a guy one concussion away from being medically retired, then we should melt. What a terrible deal. Sounds very Eagles like.

I dont get this attitude of playing hard ball and paying unders for a guy your club was willing to offer a FIVE YEAR DEAL to.

Like...They knew the risk when they put the years and cash up but now hes only worth stuff all?

 

[Astro35]

I dont get this attitude of playing hard ball and paying unders for a guy your club was willing to offer a FIVE YEAR DEAL to.

Like...They knew the risk when they put the years and cash up but now hes only worth stuff all?

I think it all changed when he was taken off during the GF with another head knock.

 

[Elixuh]

WCE list manager: hey dom, we need to say publicly that you’re after pick 16 so that when we give you the compo pick our supporters think we negotiated a hard bargain and won the trade

Brisbane lions list manager:

 

[iBeng]

I think it all changed when he was taken off during the GF with another head knock.

So the club knew one more head knock in their eyes would significantly drop his value...And went for him anyway?

The Lions are trying to do a FAVOUR in trading Starc so your FA compensation for Allen doesnt get dropped from PICK BLOODY 2?! and youre all defending trying to hardball us with second round picks and shit?

I love trade week.

 

[Jeremy McLovin]

So the club knew one more head knock in their eyes would significantly drop his value...And went for him anyway?

The Lions are trying to do a FAVOUR in trading Starc so your FA compensation for Allen doesnt get dropped from PICK BLOODY 2?! and youre all defending trying to hardball us with second round picks and shit?

I love trade week.

Lol **** off with this "doing a favour" bullshit. Lions aren't doing shit, the difference between fa and trade depends entirely on what the eagles do. Got nothing to do with Brisbane.

 

[lusheslewis]

So the club knew one more head knock in their eyes would significantly drop his value...And went for him anyway?

The Lions are trying to do a FAVOUR in trading Starc so your FA compensation for Allen doesnt get dropped from PICK BLOODY 2?! and youre all defending trying to hardball us with second round picks and shit?

I love trade week.

No?

He's out of contract and requested a trade to the team with pick 1 in the PSD.

The favour we are getting is pick 2 for Allen. The favour you are getting is Allen for free.

It seems too good a deal for either side to walk away from. The strange thing is this deal could have been worked out ages ago and it seemed like it was when Fagan announced Starcevich was leaving to the Eagles.

It's possible we have cooled on Starcevich or Brisbane have on Allen but most likely one or both of the teams is playing hard ball for some reason.

 

[Pns_blister]

No?

He's out of contract and requested a trade to the team with pick 1 in the PSD.

The favour we are getting is pick 2 for Allen. The favour you are getting is Allen for free.

It seems too good a deal for either side to walk away from. The strange thing is this deal could have been worked out ages ago and it seemed like it was when Fagan announced Starcevich was leaving to the Eagles.

It's possible we have cooled on Starcevich or Brisbane have on Allen but most likely one or both of the teams is playing hard ball for some reason.

Can’t take Starce and Allen with pick 1 in the PSD. Lions could play the same game. No one will touch Allen, the rest of the league would be more happy with that outcome as no compo pick diluting the draft. WCE losing out on pick 2 would be all time hahaha

 

[M Malice]

I think it all changed when he was taken off during the GF with another head knock.

It has been reported that Starcevich passed his concussion test and could have come back on but the Lions took the ultra cautious approach and kept him off.

When Brandon went off for assessment the game was well and truly in the balance with the Lions 1 point in front, demonstrates how bloody good our caring for people culture is, we prioritised Brandon's health and in the process jeopardised our Flag chances on the day.

 

[lusheslewis]

Can’t take Starce and Allen with pick 1 in the PSD. Lions could play the same game. No one will touch Allen, the rest of the league would be more happy with that outcome as no compo pick diluting the draft. WCE losing out on pick 2 would be all time hahaha

??? Lions can't play any games.

We would just take Allen in the PSD and Starcevich in the ND and bid on Annable at 1.

 

[mattsmob]

??? Lions can't play any games.

We would just take Allen in the PSD and Starcevich in the ND and bid on Annable at 1.

You’d take Starce with pick 1 and miss out on pick 2 all together? This thread has gone beyond stupid now, especially considering it’s a pretty straightforward late first that’s been gifted by the AFL for a dual premiership player. Both clubs win

 

[Sherriff Incorporated]

I reckon it will be Pick 16 for Starcevich and Dev combined. I think that's a terrible deal for WC but I think that will end up being the deal.

 

[lusheslewis]

You’d take Starce with pick 1 and miss out on pick 2 all together? This thread has gone beyond stupid now, especially considering it’s a pretty straightforward late first that’s been gifted by the AFL for a dual premiership player. Both clubs win

Why would we take him with pick 1?

We could just take him with our second rounder, we are offering him big money I doubt anyone else would bother.