Rumour GFC 2025 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 3

[cats_09]

2025 AFL Draft and Trade Dates:​

Fri Oct 3 - Fri Oct 10: 2025 Free Agency Period
Mon Oct 6 - Wed Oct 15: 2025 Continental Tyres AFL Trade Period
Wed Nov 19 - Thu Nov 20: 2025 Telstra AFL Draft

 

[Biscut]

Thanks for saying that.

As I've said previously, I don't lose too much sleep over what stuff eventuates and what doesn't. That's not really the reason I post. I just share what I'm told (and there's obviously some stuff I can't). Whether it turns out to be correct or not is not really the point as I see it.

Seems a bit weird that some posters have this expectation of posters that you only post something if it's signed sealed and delivered. Kind of counter intuitive to the whole premise of a draft / trading / rumour forum I would have thought

Yeah I don’t understand the hate you get. I love your updates, knowing full well that some things just don’t come off. It’s the nature of the trade game. Keep the updates coming JJ, I love it.

 

[D BRIDGE]

St Kilda now hold draft picks 49, 65, 84.. after straight swapping #7 for Ned Flanders.

I just reckon behind the scenes they'd be very keen to get something for Roma.

 

[dudusmaximus]

St Kilda now hold draft picks 49, 65, 84.. after straight swapping #7 for Ned Flanders.

I just reckon behind the scenes they'd be very keen to get something anything for Roma.

FIFY..

 

[michelzing]

I think that's all reasonable to suggest, although using language like "you don't have the assets in picks, nor will you trade any players" is a bit of a stretch.

We have picks / including future picks and it really just comes down to where and how we use them. Marshall is clearly the priority as stated by Mackie himself. Curnow, also clearly a player the Cats rate highly, and they appreciate the challenge in getting that deal done. But don't automatically assume Geelong don't have picks / nor are they prepared to trade players.

When interviewed yesterday, Mackie stated that no players had stepped forward as yet and asked to be traded. Don't misinterpret that as the club not sitting down with a contracted player (if required) and having a discussion about a potential trade. For Curnow to get to Geelong you'd imagine that a player will be involved. We've got a 10 day window and lot's can happen in that period - and most likely will.

Everything points to the Marshall deal being done. Curnow will be tougher but Geelong are clearly a motivated buyer. If there was no interest then the club would have shut it down straight away.

It definitely seems like there is interest from both parties based on the bits that we get from the media, yourself and other ITK posters. I think we can all appreciate that given we dont have two top 10 picks then we would have to get creative to pull off such a deal and that could only include a player of quality (I would have thought) and some future picks.
The player would have to be somebody we dont want to lose but that is the nature of such trades (think Brent Moloney in 2004).
Given its been mooted that they are looking for a small forward you would assume it would have to be Mannagh or Stengle as Close wouldn't be considered enough "quality" for such a deal and I would imagine Dempsey and Miers would be considered "untouchable" (for this trade at least).
We would also have to give up a future first and possible 2nd - which would seem to rule out any chances of getting Butters (at this stage)
Keep Posting Jumping Jack its good to get a "feel" for the thinking and positioning - we all know that things can change on an hourly basis - such is the nature of this trade period - doesn't mean the intel is wrong or made up - just means deals cant get done or better deals come along

 

[D BRIDGE]

St Kilda certainly aren't getting any bargains in my eyes.

Absolutely paying top-dollar, either $$$ wise or picks wise to get players in, or even retain their own players.

Flanders - pick 7 is understandable, but still no bargain = overs.
TDK - no pick required but $$$ makes him = overs.
NAS - imagine having to pay your players more than anyone in AFL history to keep them = clear jet, but overs.
Aleer - probs will get him for a nothing pick but $$$ will = overs.
SOS - no pick required but length of contract and $$$ still is no bargain = overs.
Wilkie - had to add extra $$$ onto his contract (called it ages ago, easy extra money for him) = overs.
Windhager - solid young player but probably on nearly as much as Holmes = overs.
Ryan - aging, declining but ok small forward who is contracted... prob will also pay overs picks or $$$ wise to snag him.

No shot in the world this inefficient, overpaying strategy doesn't backfire down the track.

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

Well you clearly have never met our personal “ITK” Jumping Jack
The man is basically always on the money. Not like some of the haters on here who trash someone who spends a long ass time giving up great credible information.
Trust me, I’ve checked with my sources and his sources are spot on the money.

I bet you could drag up his past postings, make a “true” or “false” list on his claims and I’d say majority of it would lean correct.
If the man says he has sources, he has sources.

Who are you to discredit him? BrisbumCFC

Well obviously if your sources have confirmed his sources are legitimate then im convinced. If you give me a minute, I'll just check with my sources if the bonafides of your sources confirming his sources are correct.

 

[cats_09]

How about we move on from worrying about who's sources say what and see what actually plays out over the next week

 

[D BRIDGE]

Well obviously if your sources have confirmed his sources are legitimate then im convinced. If you give me a minute, I'll just check with my sources if the bonafides of your sources confirming his sources are correct.

Either add something to the thread or just go away already.

Zero value added being here.

 

[Lana]

How about we move on from worrying about who's sources say what and see what actually plays out over the next week

Anyone have the remote from click

 

[Warhorse]

St Kilda certainly aren't getting any bargains in my eyes.

Absolutely paying top-dollar, either $$$ wise or picks wise to get players in, or even retain their own players.

Flanders - pick 7 is understandable, but still no bargain = overs.
TDK - no pick required but $$$ makes him = overs.
NAS - imagine having to pay your players more than anyone in AFL history to keep them - clear jet, but overs.
Aleer - probs will get him for a nothing pick but $$$ will = overs.
SOS - no pick required but length of contract and $$$ still is no bargain = overs.
Wilkie - had to add extra $$$ onto his contract (called it ages ago, easy extra money for him) = overs.
Windhager - solid young player but probably on nearly as much as Holmes = overs.
Ryan - aging, declining but ok small forward who is contracted... prob will also pay overs picks or $$$ wise to snag him.

No shot in the world this inefficient, overpaying strategy doesn't backfire down the track.

Flanders $$$ a lot less than reported. He is a gun when played in the midfield. Pick 7 in this terrible draft is ok.

TDK - thoughts are the change in ruck rules will suit him and he can be one of the most effective players in the league. You need to look at this as a whole. TDK, Ryan and FR1 pick in, out Marshall and loss of salary cap space.

NAS - this is fine. None of the SA based clubs had anything worth offering. Signing him to this contract let's them revisit when they can extract more value. Plus the blokes a gun

Aleer - money is much less than reported and will cost peanuts in draft picks. This is a 50/50. What makes it bad is him and SOS play the same position

SOS - this one is very questionable at best. Ok role player but salary is big and he always seems injuries. Think this is a bad decision with both aleer and SOS they only needed one.

Wilkie - this one is fine. Will be captain next year

Ryan - 2nd round pick is a weak draft is ok value. Ryan is much better in a well performing team.

Windhager - payed market value. Good developing player they would want to keep.

 

[D BRIDGE]

Flanders $$$ a lot less than reported. He is a gun when played in the midfield. Pick 7 in this terrible draft is ok.

TDK - thoughts are the change in ruck rules will suit him and he can be one of the most effective players in the league. You need to look at this as a whole. TDK, Ryan and FR1 pick in, out Marshall and loss of salary cap space.

NAS - this is fine. None of the SA based clubs had anything worth offering. Signing him to this contract let's them revisit when they can extract more value. Plus the blokes a gun

Aleer - money is much less than reported and will cost peanuts in draft picks. This is a 50/50. What makes it bad is him and SOS play the same position

SOS - this one is very questionable at best. Ok role player but salary is big and he always seems injuries. Think this is a bad decision with both aleer and SOS they only needed one.

Wilkie - this one is fine. Will be captain next year

Ryan - 2nd round pick is a weak draft is ok value. Ryan is much better in a well performing team.

Windhager - payed market value. Good developing player they would want to keep.

Let me enjoy laughing at St Kilda please.

They have always been an easy target for me.

 

[Reg Hickey]

Either add something to the thread or just go away already.

Zero value added being here.

Exactly.

Why are we letting some Carlton flog come on to our board and take the piss out of our members?

If I went and posted on another team's board what this clown has been posting here, I'm pretty sure I'd have gotten at least a warning and maybe even having a BF holiday right now.

 

[Reg Hickey]

Flanders $$$ a lot less than reported. He is a gun when played in the midfield. Pick 7 in this terrible draft is ok.

TDK - thoughts are the change in ruck rules will suit him and he can be one of the most effective players in the league. You need to look at this as a whole. TDK, Ryan and FR1 pick in, out Marshall and loss of salary cap space.

NAS - this is fine. None of the SA based clubs had anything worth offering. Signing him to this contract let's them revisit when they can extract more value. Plus the blokes a gun

Aleer - money is much less than reported and will cost peanuts in draft picks. This is a 50/50. What makes it bad is him and SOS play the same position

SOS - this one is very questionable at best. Ok role player but salary is big and he always seems injuries. Think this is a bad decision with both aleer and SOS they only needed one.

Wilkie - this one is fine. Will be captain next year

Ryan - 2nd round pick is a weak draft is ok value. Ryan is much better in a well performing team.

Windhager - payed market value. Good developing player they would want to keep.

I know you have St Kilda contacts, so its not surprising you would be defending them.

But this is an extremely rose-coloured view of what they've done. IMO there's a 95% chance the AFL world looks back on this trade/free agency period in a few years as the point at which the Saints blew up any chance they had of contending in the foreseeable future.

 

[joe444]

What would be interesting would be to see stats for the differential between centre ball-ups when the ball is bounced v thrown up.

You'd hate to make lasting decisions about rucks if the numbers change completely if the ball isn't bounced. Only the results from recalled bounces matter now.

 

[Warhorse]

I know you have St Kilda contacts, so its not surprising you would be defending them.

But this is an extremely rose-coloured view of what they've done. IMO there's a 95% chance the AFL world looks back on this trade/free agency period in a few years as the point at which the Saints blew up any chance they had of contending in the foreseeable future.

I agree that it could happen as you describe. Aleer/SOS are they only items I see as potentially poor trades

It is a lot for one trade period and they are not done yet.

Which trades do you disagree with?

 

[catempire]

Flanders $$$ a lot less than reported. He is a gun when played in the midfield. Pick 7 in this terrible draft is ok.

TDK - thoughts are the change in ruck rules will suit him and he can be one of the most effective players in the league. You need to look at this as a whole. TDK, Ryan and FR1 pick in, out Marshall and loss of salary cap space.

NAS - this is fine. None of the SA based clubs had anything worth offering. Signing him to this contract let's them revisit when they can extract more value. Plus the blokes a gun

Aleer - money is much less than reported and will cost peanuts in draft picks. This is a 50/50. What makes it bad is him and SOS play the same position

SOS - this one is very questionable at best. Ok role player but salary is big and he always seems injuries. Think this is a bad decision with both aleer and SOS they only needed one.

Wilkie - this one is fine. Will be captain next year

Ryan - 2nd round pick is a weak draft is ok value. Ryan is much better in a well performing team.

Windhager - payed market value. Good developing player they would want to keep.

I see your glass, which you are describing as half full, as quite half empty in fact.

 

[cats_09]

What would be interesting would be to see stats for the differential between centre ball-ups when the ball is bounced v thrown up.

You'd hate to make lasting decisions about rucks if the numbers change completely if the ball isn't bounced. Only the results from recalled bounces matter now.

You can kinda do that in regards to clearances being differentiated between centre and stoppage, but they don't so much do that specifically for hit out stats - the following is from the AFL Stats section of their website in regards to Marshall:

 

[goyoucatters]

I see your glass, which you are describing as half full, as quite half empty in fact.

I don't disagree at all. But you'd have to admit that it's captivating to have real-time updates from the Saints list management team being posted regularly on our board, though.

#whoneedstraderadio

 

[cats_09]

Since it's all quiet on the Geelong front at the moment:






and following on the above

 

[Willo_]

Let me enjoy laughing at St Kilda please.

They have always been an easy target for me.

Fear not, Every single part of their history suggests that this will still end up being the case

 

[Hinkley29]

Exactly.

Why are we letting some Carlton flog come on to our board and take the piss out of our members?

If I went and posted on another team's board what this clown has been posting here, I'm pretty sure I'd have gotten at least a warning and maybe even having a BF holiday right now.

We are better than that. Within reason we should let them embarrass themselves, it gives us something to play with during these quiet times.

 

[Mr Meow]

I see your glass, which you are describing as half full, as quite half empty in fact.

Warhorse is a branch of the St Kilda PR team. There's nothing wrong with that but it acts as a useful context for their posts around what club is doing.

 

[cats_09]

We are better than that. Within reason we should let them embarrass themselves, it gives us something to play with during these quiet times.

I'm also curious to see which clubs ITK posters and have sources that provide the best info outside of that already making noise in the media

While we've got an obvious target this year in Marshall, it's looking likely to be another quiet trade period for us after a quiet trade period last year - so any little bit of excitement is kinda fun at the moment


As you said, "within reason" - anything that clearly steps over the line of reasonable banter & fun at the moment won't be tolerated - be it a visitor or a local

 

[joe444]

You can kinda do that in regards to clearances being differentiated between centre and stoppage, but they don't so much do that specifically for hit out stats - the following is from the AFL Stats section of their website in regards to Marshall:

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Gee, that's fascinating. If I interpret them correctly, we're looking at a guy whom the elimination of the bounce is possibly going to favour significantly. Am I reading it right?

The problem of course is it's not a complete match. Centre 'ball-ups' have that artificial setup.

 

[Zouz Kitty]

Oisin?

OMG!

How embarrassment

Thank you