List Mgmt. 2025 List Management Discussion - Part IV

[Hubnester]

2025 List Management Discussion - Part 4

Now that our season is over, and news is starting to break - it's time for a fresh thread.

This thread is to discuss all things list management - trades, draft, free agency, delistings and more.
As we are now officially in our off-season, we'll be wanting to keep this thread more strictly on-topic than the previous iterations.
Be respectful. You are allowed to disagree with someone - but play the ball, not the man. Repeat offenders will have their posting rights revoked.

Thanks to Lore once again for this incredibly useful spreadsheet.

2025 KEY DATES
Free Agency Period: Friday, October 3rd - Friday, October 10th
Trade Period: Monday, October 6th - Wednesday, October 15th
AFL Draft: Wednesday, November 19th - Thursday, November 20th

See Also:
2025 Year in Review Rumours & Confirmed Movements 2025 Draft Discussion
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[Linton Street Saint]

Pickering pushing Aleer agenda every second question to the WC list manager. Is it mandatory to be a flog on TR ?

 

[tommo7]

after all that Tony74 keeps a clean record!

 

[Miha]

Wonder if Tony74 has mail on whether my 2026 will be better than my 2025

 

[chris_h_11]

So basically we wanted GWS to give us a deal similar to what we did for Heath?

Nah, we wanted the same deal as what we paid for Ryan. Give a F2, but with a pick coming back to us

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

Making statements like Liam Ryan

1

Liam Ryan

Age

29

Ht

181cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

8.6

3star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.3

5star

D

9.9

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

1.9

1star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

11.4

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.6

5star

won't do much for us.
Dunno, seems like a throwaway line.
Probably has already boosted membership, for anyone who has seen his highlights reel, there's alot of entertainment there.
And I bet that there is going to be more kids 'bed wetting' in anticipation of seeing a speccy or weaving through traffic, from him.
I'm excited until l'm not.

 

[sauce_head]

I will never understand how purple got into a position where he reports on his opinions. Hosting, sure, fine, reporting on facts, whatever. But his opinion is about as valuable as the shit I took this morning

Surely not. One removes waste and makes you feel satisfied, the other…

 

[Dr Spaceman]

St Kilda are the new darlings of the press. Just look at these gems about our latest act of treachery.

1) 'leaving Aleer in limbo'
2) 'recruits to second-guess the Saints’ reliability in future'
3) 'unexpected pivots'
4) 'Saints quietly pulled out'
5) 'Trust is currency in trade dealings.'
6) 'high-profile backflip'
7) 'Without him, St Kilda will..potentially sacrifice defensive balance.'
8) 'raises questions about cap management'

Saints’ Trade Ghost: The Leek Aleer Bounce That Never Was

Leek Aleer officially requested a move to St Kilda—but by mid-October the Saints had walked away. The sudden back-flip leaves questions about their list strategy, credibility in trade circles, and what lies next for the GWS defender.

www.bigfooty.com

 

[sauce_head]

St Kilda are the new darlings of the press. Just look at these gems about our latest act of treachery.

1) 'leaving Aleer in limbo'
2) 'recruits to second-guess the Saints’ reliability in future'
3) 'unexpected pivots'
4) 'Saints quietly pulled out'
5) 'Trust is currency in trade dealings.'
6) 'high-profile backflip'
7) 'Without him, St Kilda will..potentially sacrifice defensive balance.'
8) 'raises questions about cap management'

Saints’ Trade Ghost: The Leek Aleer Bounce That Never Was

Leek Aleer officially requested a move to St Kilda—but by mid-October the Saints had walked away. The sudden back-flip leaves questions about their list strategy, credibility in trade circles, and what lies next for the GWS defender.

www.bigfooty.com

And the best one, produced by somebody else on here, not me:

 

[SaintWWodonga]

So what is our current draft hand?

 

[phantom13]

Pickering pushing Aleer agenda every second question to the WC list manager. Is it mandatory to be a flog on TR ?

Youve certainly gotta be keen to talk complete ****ing shit for hours at a time to get a gig

 

[Mr Platinum]

Pickering pushing Aleer agenda every second question to the WC list manager. Is it mandatory to be a flog on TR ?

Pickers is the only good bloke in the media, he’s a gun.

 

[dudeintheswamp]

Wonder if Tony74 has mail on whether my 2026 will be better than my 2025

It will be.

 

[NAS THE GOAT]

 

[Linton Street Saint]

Wanting a flat F2 for Aleer while all the teams crying out for defenders have no interest in him after yesterday. nods We are the problem.

4 trades done no f**king messing about.

Bad St Kilda, Bad.

Yup checks out.

 

[SainterinSydney]

Anything new has happened? Just the highlights

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

Melbourne fc response
Derksen who?
Oh ok, fair enough

 

[Linton Street Saint]

Pickers is the only good bloke in the media, he’s a gun.

So his reason for pushing the Aleer agenda onto the West Coast list manager who is on to discuss Starcevich, Chesser and Ryan is ? ....

 

[Lennylegs]

Pickers is the only good bloke in the media, he’s a gun.

WTF does this even mean. You're like 14 years old yeah? Go have some ice cream or something.

 

[_Maximus_12]

Jason McCartney

Jason Mccartney

Age

51

Ht

191cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.7

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

3.5

3star

M

3.6

4star

T

0.8

3star

No current season stats available

D

10.0

3star

K

5.8

3star

HB

4.2

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

0.6

3star

is a whiny little bitch.

 

[pebblesofsand]

Wanting a F2 for Aleer while all the teams crying out for defenders have no interest in him after yesterday. nods We are the problem.

4 trades done no f**king messing about.

Bad St Kilda, Bad.

Yup checks out.

Yeah looks Leek has a choice between GWS ............................. and six other clubs.

If I was him I'd be ringing my manager and saying - this time don't f*** it up.

SIX alternative landing spots for GWS Giant Leek Aleer

The Saints were set to land the intercept defender, but have since pulled out.

www.zerohanger.com

 

[bird_man]

So what is our current draft hand?

Picks 44 and 59

Which I imagine would be used on our academy kid Fincher

 

[thekizzler]

These may be coincidences, but a couple of interesting things I have noted out of the Aleer saga:

• Gubby sent the text to Aleer's management not long after Dilena was on Trade Radio. Coincidence or planned so Dilena didn't need to answer questions?
• St Kilda hasn't bothered to speak publicly since the withdrew from the Aleer deal - either in a statement or even through feeding chooks. Does that mean they just don't give a f*** or they are keen for the story to blow over?
• This standard of communication to the press has been a feature of the current St Kilda administration. There was barely any significant chat about Nas' contract, Windy's contract and nothing about Wilkie's Bulldogs link. To me, this signals confidence in the decision making and the process.
• The only time the Saints coordinated any significant press whatsoever was Lyon and Wilkie regarding the initial exodus story - and I'm guessing because that story was implying a lot of things were wrong - which likely wasn't true or highly exaggerated.
• A club only defends their position if they feel they need to, and for whatever reason, the Saints haven't really defended anything recently (aside from the exodus fantasy) and just got on aggressively with their business.

As for Aleer, as an isolated incident it isn't a great look by current conventions, but I like the fact the club is being ruthless with its decision making for betterment of the club. Wrapping up other deals quickly and efficiently does offset part of any negativity around the Aleer withdrawal too.

As a footnote, ironically, Rucci's exodus story could have definitely come true or at least partly true in a different world. Wilkie takes bulk extra coin at Dogs, Steele finds a new home, Geelong satisfy Saints for Marshall and Windy wanted extra coin and years elsewhere. Instead, it looks like all four could stay. Maybe a Sliding Doors for Purple?

 

[_Maximus_12]

You go shopping for a house with a budget. If you spend over your budget, you’re often paying the price once you move in because you can’t upgrade your furniture to suit the house.

We didn’t want to be in a position where we couldn’t afford other things we want or need in the future.

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

Yeah looks Leek has a choice between GWS ............................. and six other clubs.

If I was him I'd be ringing my manager and saying - this time don't f*** it up.

SIX alternative landing spots for GWS Giant Leek Aleer

The Saints were set to land the intercept defender, but have since pulled out.

www.zerohanger.com

Saints should Vfl list him
We will pay him more than other clubs still.

 

[Moquo]

I will never understand how purple got into a position where he reports on his opinions. Hosting, sure, fine, reporting on facts, whatever. But his opinion is about as valuable as the shit I took this morning

Love that clip of him signing footballs. I bet the lucky kids that scored them will pass them on for generations to come