Rumour Bluemour Discussion XLI

[Aphrodite]

#BUMP from February


Re: 'Alleged' rumours resurfacing ...

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Thanks all!

 

[RPCB]

The two can exist at the same time.
We need 22 not for players in the draft but flexibility to get Dean and Ison

I am no way wanting us to trade anything with Charlie.

 

[Blue and Silver]

Happy with that deal of that's what it ends up.

Think we could get better. But I just want to move forward and be done with talented players who aren't committed

Scratch that.

We need pick 22 for points matching unless we have a big deal lined up to get us those picks

 

[carlton_99]

Respectfully, get ****ed.

Yeh that cannot happen

 

[Matty411]

 

[ctwenty1]

Scratch that.

We need pick 22 for points matching unless we have a big deal lined up to get us those picks

But its effectively pick 11 Hayward and Florent - thats a no. Reckon we might be able to push them out further

 

[SolGoodman]

Pick 22 is just late posturing, there's no way we'd give it.

 

[ctwenty1]

Pick 22 is just late posturing, there's no way we'd give it.

Its only if we feel we are going to get something of really good value somewhere else but need to move quickly...

 

[McConville]

Meanwhile our other Coleman winning KP forward has a history of head knocks and has had challenges with Mental Health (which can be linked).

Lot of eggs to put in the Harry basket, is he happy to be the main man? What's plan B if he has another severe concussion?

This is giving me the Cinderella's!

"If we take some time to think it over, baby
Take some time let me know
If you really wanna go
Don't know what you got 'til it's gone
Don't know what it is I did so wrong
Now I know what I got
Just this song
And it ain't easy to get back
Takes so long"

Let's just hope its not yet another Long Cold Winter.

 

[CarmenSandiego]

Yikes.

Maybe a swap of 1sts?

Hayward + Florent + 2025 1st + 2026 1st
Curnow + 2025 Pick 19 (SOS Compo)?

Respectfully, get ****ed.

 

[Gavstar]

Would we give 22 if 32 came back to us?

 

[Burgers45]

Don't we need to keep Pck 22 to help draft Dean?

 

[Pixelshooter]

From “This draft is shit.” for the last 12 months.

To “We must hold onto Pick 22.”

Which can be used as leverage in other trades or deals.

Obviously an ambit claim to make just the player swap and picks coming our way appear better.

 

[Cripps 'n' Blue Bloods]

Is this their 1st official offer? If so, it won't end up being that, but there's no way I'd pull the trigger with 22 going back to them.
A pick in the 40s-50s maybe, but I'd still be pushing for the deal with no pick going back.
If Swans get Charlie and kick on to top 4 next year, their F1 ends up being close to our 22 this year, so they effectively cancel each other out.
At least things are moving, but this isn't the deal we settle on.

 

[The Bighouse]

From “This draft is shit.” for the last 12 months.

To “We must hold onto Pick 22.”

We need it however

 

[serenityNow]

Curnow AND Pick 22?


*I don't even want florent in the deal.

 

[ctwenty1]

Would we give 22 if 32 came back to us?

for Buku...

I guess

THen I suspect 10 and 11 goes somewhere for a player and late picks for Dean and Ison

 

[agro]

 

[Blue Heart]

Sounds really bad like that.

On the other hand, we might be replacing a 65 goal a year forward with a 40 goal a year forward (Hayward).

AND getting a solid HBF with good ball use (Florent), which we badly need.

AND getting a first round pick to get us half of Cody.

AND maybe something else.

Losing Charlie for multiple lesser parts may not be a disaster when you factor in the total impact to our list.

Please explain to me why when I woke up this morning and read of Syd.'s proposed offer of Hayward, Florient and 2 draft picks for an intergenerational player like Charlie, doesn't really feel like a 'win' ?

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Our counter offer should be to give them Mitch McGovern

11

Mitch Mcgovern

Age

31

Ht

190cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.1

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

2.9

3star

M

4.6

4star

T

2.2

4star

MG

189.8

3star

D

7.6

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

1.1

1star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.9

3star

MG

179.6

3star

D

10.8

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

3.0

5star

MG

218.0

4star

instead of Charlie Curnow

30

Charlie Curnow

Age

28

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.3

3star

K

9.7

4star

HB

3.6

3star

M

5.3

5star

T

2.2

4star

G

1.3

5star

No current season stats available

D

10.8

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

4.4

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.8

4star

 

[Blue and Silver]

Don't we need to keep Pck 22 to help draft Dean?

Yes, there are ways around.

Trade 10 or 11 back etc.

But it's sub-optimal

 

[GoBlues!]

Sounds really bad like that.

On the other hand, we might be replacing a 65 goal a year forward with a 40 goal a year forward (Hayward).

AND getting a solid HBF with good ball use (Florent), which we badly need.

AND getting a first round pick to get us half of Cody.

AND maybe something else.

Losing Charlie for multiple lesser parts may not be a disaster when you factor in the total impact to our list.

Agree. Also need to look at what does Hayward bring as a package and not just look at goals kicked.

Curnow and Hayward have both played 9 seasons of football, and comparing their outputs over this period Curnow has:

Played 149 games to Haywards 184.
Kicked 313 goals to 229.
Kicked 201 points to 134.
Been involved in 80 goal assists to 81.
Had 450 i50s to 331.
Laid 238 tackles to 514.
Had 23 clearances to 75.

Hayward brings a lot to the forward line, may not kick as many goals as a stay at home forward - probably because he’s working hard laying tackles up the ground and creating opportunities for his teammates.

 

[No1Suspect]

for Buku...

I guess

THen I suspect 10 and 11 goes somewhere for a player and late picks for Dean and Ison

We've gotta watch gold coast and petracca

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Lol Sydney, if that's the best you can come up with after 10 days, go and get completely ****ed.

 

[mrkyuss]

Austin will probably throw in Jagga as good will.

 

[El Topo]

At the start of this saga would people have entertained a trade for a B grader , salary dump and two picks in the teens for the second most marketable player in the comp (also under long contract)? Don’t think so.

Why do we care about marketing?