Podcast BigFooty Tigercast - Training report, 3rd December

[Michaels]

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Topics covered:

Rhy Gieschen X Tigercast Draft recap

-Ranking criteria
-Data vs Eye test
-Sliders and Bolters including a bit on Robey
-How/when we measure draft success
-The key attributes for this years draft selections
-A bit on each of the players we selected
-the train on players
-Louis Kellaway-2026 & 2027 draft.

Rhy was absolutely fantastic with his time and his answers.

 

[Michaels]

 

[Dr Tigris]

I’m taking:

3: Sullivan Robey
4: Dyson Sharp / Sam Cumming
38: Jai Murray

I just feel we need to fill out the midfield depth first which doubles as half forward resting spots.

Hotton, Lalor, Smillie, Robey, cumming/Sharp rotating from mid to half forward is extremely dangerous I think.

Jai Murray as a silky winger at 38

I understand the logic of focusing on the midfield . It is the engine room and making it work well is he most important thing long term.

Only comment is that CDT looks like being a 100+kg mid as well as ruck and KPF. And that we have the next couple of years and FA/trades to fill holes.

In any case unless WC takes Sharp we get either CDT or Robey, and we take whoever is there. Then I'd go Sharp for exactly your reason, he provides the missing piece in our midfield.

 

[THE_GUN]

Prefer Marcus Krasnadamskis
Over CDT and it won't cost us a top 5 pick

did he attend the combine ?
Love to see his results

 

[THE_GUN]

I’m taking:

3: Sullivan Robey
4: Dyson Sharp / Sam Cumming
38: Jai Murray

I just feel we need to fill out the midfield depth first which doubles as half forward resting spots.

Hotton, Lalor, Smillie, Robey, cumming/Sharp rotating from mid to half forward is extremely dangerous I think.

Jai Murray as a silky winger at 38

We getting there eyebrow

 

[Mr Magic]

I understand the logic of focusing on the midfield . It is the engine room and making it work well is he most important thing long term.

Only comment is that CDT looks like being a 100+kg mid as well as ruck and KPF. And that we have the next couple of years and FA/trades to fill holes.

In any case unless WC takes Sharp we get either CDT or Robey, and we take whoever is there. Then I'd go Sharp for exactly your reason, he provides the missing piece in our midfield.

the thing is if we don't get CDT, when we could of, we are stuck with a player that may not have that extra benefit for the team, and although he night be cheaper getting mids is easier

 

[Dr Tigris]

the thing is if we don't get CDT, when we could of, we are stuck with a player that may not have that extra benefit for the team, and although he night be cheaper getting mids is easier

Well I reckon we'll get the choice of CDT or Robey, not both. If we can pick both then we should take them.

 

[Mr Magic]

Well I reckon we'll get the choice of CDT or Robey, not both. If we can pick both then we should take them.

here is another reverse logic, blah blah logic.

we have a lot of talls, with versatility, whether back/forward, who knows yet

if we have a giraffe ruckman can it work??? do we need a tall like CDT along with Sims to allow the other taller players to function because we are not playing a conventional ruckman and therefore have more mobility despite our height across the ground

in other words we might not know it yet, because our talls are still developing, but we might need CDT, aka he is actually the missing ingredient, because conventional ruckman makes us too tall causing us mobility issues over the ground

are you suggesting West Coast picks Duursma and one of CDT or Robey??? in which case the choice is not made by us

 

[THE_GUN]

Well I reckon we'll get the choice of CDT or Robey, not both. If we can pick both then we should take them.

I doubt we have that choice unless the eagles are in love with Sharp and worried we are as well
But if that is available then why not

Go Hard or Go Home

 

[Dr Tigris]

here is another reverse logic, blah blah logic.

we have a lot of talls, with versatility, whether back/forward, who knows yet

if we have a giraffe ruckman can it work??? do we need a tall like CDT along with Sims to allow the other taller players to function because we are not playing a conventional ruckman and therefore have more mobility despite our height across the ground

in other words we might not know it yet, because our talls are still developing, but we might need CDT, aka he is actually the missing ingredient, because conventional ruckman makes us too tall causing us mobility issues over the ground

are you suggesting West Coast picks Duursma and one of CDT or Robey??? in which case the choice is not made by us

Of course. If there are a top 3, Duursma, CDT and Robey then it is logical that WC will pick from them. The only issue is that a player like Sharp is probably their greatest need. So they might go Duursma and Sharp. Whatever happens happens.

 

[THE_GUN]

Personally i think the eagles want Sharp and will trade to get him with the Bombers
Sharp is the most proven and likely to be a long term AFL player from the group 2-10

 

[59Stanley]

Is it just me seeing things or can CDT not take a pack mark and fumbles relatively easy marks too ?

 

[Drunken Wookie]

Is it just me seeing things or can CDT not take a pack mark and fumbles relatively easy marks too ?

yeeeah hes not great overhead, if he was hed be the top pick by a mile

 

[Coach_Required]

Is it just me seeing things or can CDT not take a pack mark and fumbles relatively easy marks too ?

Buddy Franklin spent his whole career unable to take contested marks lol

 

[sregit]

Is it just me seeing things or can CDT not take a pack mark and fumbles relatively easy marks too ?

Most young talls struggle to pack mark until they get the body development to enable them to hold their ground. He will be a very good player with a much higher ceiling than most but his advantage over most talls is his mobility and ability at ground level. Richmond is crazy if we overlook him if available at our picks.

 

[The Mighty]

What Number is Sulli getting?

Eagles better keep their hands off the campaigners.

 

[LTT]

Buddy Franklin spent his whole career unable to take contested marks lol

Fortunately, we picked Richard Tambling in the 2004 national draft

 

[Michaels]

Last night we went through a heap of the Rookie me Draft guide profiles!

 

[ROYCY HART A TRUE CHF]

yeeeah hes not great overhead, if he was hed be the top pick by a mile

Exactly.
Do we want another Samson ????
I guess he could be our Goliath !!!

 

[Dr Tigris]

Last night we went through a heap of the Rookie me Draft guide profiles!

Gld to see you've turned around on Sharp. And I hope my putting in every post to you that you need to look about 5 years out actually got to you. or was it just your natural smarts?

Anyway, we pretty much can't miss with our picks. Only thing is whether we go for best available Robey/CDT/Sharp, or go for needs - Grilj for me.

Bid like crazy, unless WC have done it for us.

Pick up whoever slips at 38 (33ish) and then Kellaway.

Easy.

 

[THE_GUN]

Anyway, we pretty much can't miss with our picks. Only thing is whether we go for best available Robey/CDT/Sharp, or go for needs - Grilj for me.



Easy.

 

[Dr Tigris]

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OK, I am really stupid today. Doe that mean you want Grilj? or don't?

To me if we don't take the obvious players he is the most likely to fit into our team and be a difference maker.

I still reckon we should take the most obvious players Robey/CDT, whoever's available, and then Sharp.

 

[THE_GUN]

OK, I am really stupid today. Doe that mean you want Grilj? or don't?

To me if we don't take the obvious players he is the most likely to fit into our team and be a difference maker.

I still reckon we should take the most obvious players Robey/CDT, whoever's available, and then Sharp.

Dont feel bad as its not just today

 

[LTT]

Gld to see you've turned around on Sharp. And I hope my putting in every post to you that you need to look about 5 years out actually got to you. or was it just your natural smarts?

Anyway, we pretty much can't miss with our picks. Only thing is whether we go for best available Robey/CDT/Sharp, or go for needs - Grilj for me.

Bid like crazy, unless WC have done it for us.

Pick up whoever slips at 38 (33ish) and then Kellaway.

Easy.

Definitely need to bid on Dean early as well. Make it as hard as possible for Carlton next year

 

[THE_GUN]

Definitely need to bid on Dean early as well. Make it as hard as possible for Carlton next year

Pick #3 bid on Dean , Uwland & Patterson
Then take Robey

 

[Michaels]