List Mgmt. 2025 Trade & List Management Thread - Part II [Spargo ✅ Maley->Adelaide✅]

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Spoiler: Key Dates

Spoiler: Draft Order

Spoiler: FA Moves/Trades

Player/Picks​	Original Team​	Receiving Team​	FA /Trade?​	Compo​
Tom De Koning	Carlton	St Kilda	RFA	Round One selection (currently #10)
Jack Silvagni	Carlton	St Kilda	UFA	End of First Round selection (currently #22)
Jacob Wehr	GWS	Port Adelaide	UFA	No Compo
Sam Draper	Essendon	Brisbane	UFA	End of First Round selection (currently #21)
Charlie Spargo	Melbourne	North Melbourne	UFA	End of Round Two selection (currently pick #42)
James Worpel	Hawthorn	Geelong	RFA	End of Round Two selection (currently #43)
Liam Reidy	Fremantle	Carlton	Trade	CARL:Liam Reidy,R3(54),R4 (72) FRE: R3(51), R4(69)
Malcolm Rosas Jnr	Gold Coast	Sydney	Trade	GC: R3(52), R4(70) SYD: Malcolm Rosas Jnr, R3(63)
Sam Flanders	Gold Coast	St Kilda	Trade	GC: R1(7) STK: Sam Flanders
Judd McVee	Melbourne	Fremantle	Trade	MELB: R1(23) FRE: Judd McVee
Brandon Starcevich	Brisbane	West Coast	Trade	WC: Brandon Starcevich 37 Brandon Starcevich Age 26 Ht 188cm Wt 90kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 9.2 2star K 6.5 3star HB 2.6 2star M 2.8 3star T 2.0 4star MG 185.3 3star D 9.5 2star K 7.3 3star HB 2.3 2star M 3.6 4star T 2.1 3star MG 187.9 3star D 8.6 3star K 5.4 2star HB 3.2 3star M 1.4 2star T 1.8 4star MG 181.2 3star , R1(12), R2(33), R3(52) BRIS: R1(16) R1(22),R3(44),R3(50) FRE: R1(19), R2(23),R3(46)
Oscar Allen	West Coast	Brisbane	RFA	Round one selection (currently #2)
Liam Ryan	West Coast	St Kilda	Trade	WC: 2026 R2 Pick(Tied to STK) STK: Liam Ryan 1 Liam Ryan Age 29 Ht 181cm Wt 76kg Pos. Fwd Career Season Last 5 D 11.3 3star K 8.6 3star HB 2.7 2star M 3.0 3star T 2.0 4star G 1.3 5star D 9.9 3star K 8.0 3star HB 1.9 1star M 3.3 3star T 1.6 3star G 1.3 5star D 11.4 3star K 9.0 4star HB 2.4 3star M 3.8 4star T 1.8 4star G 1.6 5star , 2027 R3 Pick(tied to WCE)
Max Heath	St Kilda	Melbourne	Trade	STK: 2027 R4 Pick(tied to Melb) MEL: Max Heath
Brody Mihocek	Collingwood	Melbourne	Trade	MEL: Brody Mihocek 41 Brody Mihocek Age 32 Ht 192cm Wt 99kg Pos. Fwd Career Season Last 5 D 11.9 3star K 8.2 3star HB 3.7 3star M 5.3 5star T 2.0 4star G 1.6 5star D 8.4 2star K 6.3 3star HB 2.1 2star M 4.3 4star T 1.9 3star G 1.7 5star D 10.2 3star K 6.4 3star HB 3.8 3star M 4.6 5star T 1.8 4star G 1.6 5star , R4(71) COL: R3(61), 2026 R3 selection (tied to Melbourne)
Ben Ainsworth	Gold Coast	Carlton	Trade	CARL: Ben Ainsworth 9 Ben Ainsworth Age 27 Ht 178cm Wt 77kg Pos. Fwd Career Season Last 5 D 14.1 4star K 8.1 3star HB 6.1 4star M 3.5 4star T 2.7 4star G 0.7 4star D 12.8 3star K 8.3 3star HB 4.5 3star M 4.0 4star T 2.3 3star G 1.0 4star D 13.6 4star K 6.8 3star HB 6.8 5star M 3.8 4star T 3.4 5star G 0.6 3star GC: R2(29) via Port
Corey Durdin	Carlton	Port Adelaide	Trade	PORT: Corey Durdin, 2026 R2(tied to Carlton) CARL: R4(67)(via Port)
Campbell Chesser	West Coast	Carlton	Trade	WC: R2(41) CARL: Campbell Chesser
Tylar Young	Richmond	West Coast	Trade	WC: Tylar Young RIC: R2(38)
Pick Swap	GWS	Western Bulldogs	Trade	WB: R1(14) & R2(37) GWS: R1(12)
Will Brodie	Fremantle	Port Adelaide	Trade	PORT: Will Brodie 17 Will Brodie Age 27 Ht 190cm Wt 89kg Pos. Mid Career Season Last 5 D 19.0 5star K 8.2 3star HB 10.8 5star M 3.1 3star T 4.9 5star CL 4.1 5star D 14.0 3star K 4.0 1star HB 10.0 5star M 3.0 3star T 1.0 2star CL 3.0 4star D 13.8 4star K 7.4 3star HB 6.4 4star M 3.2 4star T 5.4 5star CL 2.8 5star FRE: R6(103)
Pick Swap	Collingwood	Brisbane	Trade	COL: R3 (45,56) BRIS: R3(59), 2026 R3 Pick(Tied to Melbourne)
Connor Budarick	Gold Coast	Western Bulldogs	Trade	WB: Connor Budarick 35 Connor Budarick Age 24 Ht 175cm Wt 75kg Pos. D/M Career Season Last 5 D 10.6 3star K 6.8 3star HB 3.9 3star M 2.9 3star T 1.5 3star MG 171.3 3star D 10.6 3star K 6.8 3star HB 3.9 3star M 2.9 3star T 1.5 2star MG 171.3 3star D 10.6 3star K 6.8 3star HB 3.8 3star M 2.6 3star T 2.0 4star MG 153.0 3star , R4 (70) GC: R2(37)
Jayden Laverde	Essendon	GWS	DFA	No Compo
Brayden Fiorini	Gold Coast	Essendon	Trade	ESS: Brayden Fiorini 8 Brayden Fiorini Age 28 Ht 187cm Wt 82kg Pos. Mid Career Season Last 5 D 22.9 5star K 13.9 5star HB 9.1 5star M 4.7 4star T 4.0 5star CL 2.9 4star D 16.3 4star K 11.0 4star HB 5.3 3star M 4.0 4star T 1.7 3star CL 0.7 3star D 21.2 5star K 10.2 4star HB 11.0 5star M 4.6 5star T 4.2 5star CL 3.2 5star GC: 2026 R3 pick (tied to Essendon)
Ollie Florent	Sydney	Carlton	Trade	SYD: 2026 R3 (tied to Carl) CARL: Ollie Florent
Changkuoth Jiath	Hawthorn	Melbourne	Trade	MEL:Changkuoth Jiath 9 Changkuoth Jiath Age 26 Ht 185cm Wt 78kg Pos. D/M Career Season Last 5 D 14.5 4star K 5.0 2star HB 9.5 5star M 3.5 4star T 2.5 4star MG 91.0 1star No current season stats available D 14.5 4star K 5.0 2star HB 9.5 5star M 3.5 4star T 2.5 4star MG 91.0 2star HAW: R3 (42), 2026 R4 (tied to Melb)
Jai Serong	Hawthorn	Sydney	Trade	SYD: Jai Serong, 2026 R4(Tied to Hawthorn HAW: 2026 R3 pick(tied to Syd)
Pick Swap	Hawthorn	Carlton	Trade	CARL: R1(9), R2(31), R2(42), R3(43) HAW: R1(10), R1 (22)
Finnbar Maley	North Melbourne	Adelaide	Trade	NTH: R3(57), 2026 R4(tied to Adelaide) ADE: Finnbar Maley, R4(64)
Jamarra Ugle-Hagan	Western Bulldogs	Gold Coast	Trade	GC: Jamarra Ugle-Hagan WB: R6(74)
Jack Buller	Sydney	Collingwood	Trade	COLL: Jack Buller , 2026 F4 (tied to Syd) SYD: 2026 R3(tied to Coll)
Jack Steele	St Kilda	Melbourne	Trade	MEL: Jack Steele 9 Jack Steele Age 29 Ht 187cm Wt 90kg Pos. Mid Career Season Last 5 D 20.9 5star K 8.7 3star HB 12.2 5star M 3.7 4star T 6.8 5star CL 3.6 5star D 21.3 5star K 10.0 4star HB 11.3 5star M 4.0 4star T 5.8 5star CL 4.6 5star D 16.8 4star K 5.0 2star HB 11.8 5star M 2.6 3star T 6.4 5star CL 3.6 5star STK: 2027 R3 Pick
Clayton Oliver	Melbourne	GWS	Trade	GWS: Clayton Oliver 13 Clayton Oliver Age 28 Ht 189cm Wt 88kg Pos. Mid Career Season Last 5 D 27.8 5star K 9.5 4star HB 18.4 5star M 3.2 3star T 6.3 5star CL 6.3 5star D 25.1 5star K 11.1 4star HB 14.0 5star M 3.6 4star T 5.6 5star CL 5.9 5star D 19.2 5star K 4.6 2star HB 14.6 5star M 2.0 3star T 4.4 5star CL 3.8 5star MEL: 2027 R3 Pick (tied to GWS)
Patrick Retschko	Geelong	Richmond	Trade	RICH: Patrick Retshcko GEEL: R6 (99)
Christian Petracca	Melbourne	Gold Coast	Trade	MEL: R1(7,8) 2026 R1(tied to GC), R2 (37), 2027 R3(tied to Gold Coast) GC: Christian Petracca 5 Christian Petracca Age 29 Ht 187cm Wt 94kg Pos. M/F Career Season Last 5 D 19.4 5star K 9.5 4star HB 9.8 5star M 3.5 4star T 3.0 5star CL 2.5 4star D 24.4 5star K 10.4 4star HB 14.0 5star M 3.5 3star T 3.6 4star CL 3.4 4star D 19.0 5star K 7.8 3star HB 11.2 5star M 3.0 3star T 3.8 5star CL 2.0 4star , R2 (24,28), 2026 R2 pick(tied to Melbourne)
Charlie Curnow	Carlton	Sydney	Trade	CARL: Will Hayward 9 Will Hayward Age 27 Ht 186cm Wt 83kg Pos. Fwd Career Season Last 5 D 10.6 3star K 6.6 3star HB 4.0 3star M 3.4 3star T 2.8 4star G 1.1 4star D 9.0 2star K 4.3 2star HB 4.7 3star M 2.7 3star T 2.7 4star G 0.7 4star D 9.4 3star K 6.2 3star HB 3.2 3star M 2.6 3star T 3.4 5star G 1.4 5star , R1, 2026 R1, 2027 R1(tied to Sydney) SYD: Charlie Curnow 30 Charlie Curnow Age 28 Ht 194cm Wt 94kg Pos. Fwd Career Season Last 5 D 13.3 3star K 9.7 4star HB 3.6 3star M 5.3 5star T 2.2 4star G 1.3 5star No current season stats available D 10.8 3star K 6.4 3star HB 4.4 4star M 3.2 4star T 1.6 4star G 0.8 4star . R2(31), (42), 2027 R2 pick(Tied to Carlton)

Zac Merrett - requests a trade to Hawthorn
Jy Simpkin

12

Jy Simpkin

Age

27

Ht

183cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.0

4star

K

7.9

3star

HB

8.1

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

3.3

5star

CL

2.9

4star

D

20.6

5star

K

11.0

4star

HB

9.6

5star

M

2.0

2star

T

3.5

4star

CL

5.5

5star

D

10.0

3star

K

5.6

3star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.4

4star

CL

0.2

2star

- Pies have registered interest in Jy
Rowan Marshall

19

Rowan Marshall

Age

30

Ht

201cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.4

4star

K

8.8

3star

HB

6.6

4star

CL

3.4

5star

HO

20.2

5star

D

12.9

3star

K

9.3

4star

HB

3.6

2star

CL

2.8

4star

HO

17.8

5star

D

10.6

3star

K

5.8

3star

HB

4.8

4star

CL

1.0

3star

HO

7.8

5star

-  requested a trade to Geelong
Devon Robertson - requests a trade to West Coast
Callum Ah Chee

4

Callum Ah Chee

Age

28

Ht

182cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.8

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

5.9

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.9

4star

G

0.5

3star

D

11.1

3star

K

7.7

3star

HB

3.4

2star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.7

4star

G

0.1

3star

D

9.4

3star

K

4.4

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

3.0

5star

G

0.8

4star

- requests a trade to Adelaide
Buku Khamis - requests a trade to Carlton
Wade Derksen - requests a trade to a Victorian Club

Spoiler: Media Interviews

Simpkin 'unlikely' to remain captain, North take 'strong' stance

North Melbourne footy boss Todd Viney reflects on Jy Simpkin's failed bid to leave the club and what comes next for the club's skipper

www.afl.com.au

Rawlings reviews Trade Period after Simpkin offer, Maley move

Head of football talent Brady Rawlings reviews the Roos' 2025 Continental Tyres AFL Trade Period

www.nmfc.com.au

EXPLAINER: All the details about Free Agency, Trade Period

Here's everything you need to know about the Trade Period, Free Agency and more

www.afl.com.au

 

[Merlin007]

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fair to say that we weren’t going to waste any cash again after this absolute specimen

Mind you, there's a few others where the investment seemed misplaced.

I remember being at Victoria Park for a VFL game, and the Pies players were literally laughing at Eric Wallace.

Another one that comes to mind is rugby/rowing convert Tom Jeffries - suffice to say he did not know a lot about the game. Playing deep forward, he came up the middle of ground to take a mark, and then not realising he was the deepest forward, instead of waiting for the play to move up, he turned around - and kicked it to no-one.

Cat B and North Melbourne - this and other oxymorons

 

[The Nostradamus]

Just cos we haven’t struck gold with cat b doesn’t mean you stop trying
other clubs continue to get value out of it

 

[perplexed]

Mind you, there's a few others where the investment seemed misplaced.

I remember being at Victoria Park for a VFL game, and the Pies players were literally laughing at Eric Wallace.

Another one that comes to mind is rugby/rowing convert Tom Jeffries - suffice to say he did not know a lot about the game. Playing deep forward, he came up the middle of ground to take a mark, and then not realising he was the deepest forward, instead of waiting for the play to move up, he turned around - and kicked it to no-one.

Cat B and North Melbourne - this and other oxymorons

They require more coaching time than other players for a lower return. Unless they are someone like Alex Condon, who grew up playing footy but switched to a different sport, I think they are a bad investment.

 

[shinboner magic]

Think it’s easier to train guys that can run the game than kpps

 

[Shinboner1]

Does anyone know the story with Setterfield?

Surely it's either injuries or he's fallen out with Bard - averaged 20 touches and 7 tackles.

It's not like * have a lot to choose from

Too slow and one dimensional.
Can only play mid.
Doesn't have the attitude to hunt the ball if its not near him.

 

[Shinboner1]

Just cos we haven’t struck gold with cat b doesn’t mean you stop trying
other clubs continue to get value out of it

100%.

 

[The Filth Wizard]

and until the afl formally announces, I am working on the understanding we also have another 2 cat a rookie spots available at least for 1 more year

and also on the cat b rookie note saints just signed a 17 year old gun irish prodigy

This was from Marc McGowan in the Age (dated today) fwiw.

 

[chubbspeterson]

Without a doubt this is due to $$$$ and I'd rather we invest like we had recently on coaches etc. play the odds

We trialed the kid but he choose the Dees in the end, so not sure it's necessarily about the $$$.
I think we would be selective in the prospects we take a punt on though.

 

[perplexed]

Thought I'd do a little basic research to get an idea what the success rate of Cat B rookies was. Taking 2020 (because that is long enough ago to make a call on players) there were 32 Cat B rookies. Of them, 7 are still on lists: Keane, Buckley, Callum Brown, C Jiath, Wicks, Khamis, Owies. This is more successful than I expected, but does it justify the investment? A couple of very good players, a couple of role players, and three fringe or back-up types, most never played a game.

 

[chubbspeterson]

Thought I'd do a little basic research to get an idea what the success rate of Cat B rookies was. Taking 2020 (because that is long enough ago to make a call on players) there were 32 Cat B rookies. Of them, 7 are still on lists: Keane, Buckley, Callum Brown, C Jiath, Wicks, Khamis, Owies. This is more successful than I expected, but does it justify the investment? A couple of very good players, a couple of role players, and three fringe or back-up types, most never played a game.

It really has to be someone who is either a supreme athlete or played some footy as a junior to be worth a punt.
Basketball background would make some sense as well with zoning.

 

[Makeshift Park]

Thought I'd do a little basic research to get an idea what the success rate of Cat B rookies was. Taking 2020 (because that is long enough ago to make a call on players) there were 32 Cat B rookies. Of them, 7 are still on lists: Keane, Buckley, Callum Brown, C Jiath, Wicks, Khamis, Owies. This is more successful than I expected, but does it justify the investment? A couple of very good players, a couple of role players, and three fringe or back-up types, most never played a game.

I don't think it really helps to count NSW zone selections like Wicks and Buckley as Cat Bs for the sake of this exercise. They were both underage academy footballers who the NSW clubs had exclusive access to.

 

[Merlin007]

Thought I'd do a little basic research to get an idea what the success rate of Cat B rookies was. Taking 2020 (because that is long enough ago to make a call on players) there were 32 Cat B rookies. Of them, 7 are still on lists: Keane, Buckley, Callum Brown, C Jiath, Wicks, Khamis, Owies. This is more successful than I expected, but does it justify the investment? A couple of very good players, a couple of role players, and three fringe or back-up types, most never played a game.

The other part of our experience is they trial with us and go elsewhere when a bigger club takes an interest - witness Mason Cox

 

[Shinboner1]

Thought I'd do a little basic research to get an idea what the success rate of Cat B rookies was. Taking 2020 (because that is long enough ago to make a call on players) there were 32 Cat B rookies. Of them, 7 are still on lists: Keane, Buckley, Callum Brown, C Jiath, Wicks, Khamis, Owies. This is more successful than I expected, but does it justify the investment? A couple of very good players, a couple of role players, and three fringe or back-up types, most never played a game.

depends on the type of player I think. Wonder if someone who was more a tall defender type would be better suited.
They always just seem to HFs who can run with evasive skills.
A few of those successful ones would surely just be cat B based on nationality not time in the game? Khamis for example.
Wasnt there talk about us being able to claim TT as a cat B if he wasnt selected in the national draft?

 

[spicerFanClub]

Thought I'd do a little basic research to get an idea what the success rate of Cat B rookies was. Taking 2020 (because that is long enough ago to make a call on players) there were 32 Cat B rookies. Of them, 7 are still on lists: Keane, Buckley, Callum Brown, C Jiath, Wicks, Khamis, Owies. This is more successful than I expected, but does it justify the investment? A couple of very good players, a couple of role players, and three fringe or back-up types, most never played a game.

Nice research. Reinforces how much of a crap shoot drafting is. A few rare examples get held up by media as something everyone should do, reality is it's a lot of luck with a sprinkling of system.

 

[shinboner magic]

The other part of our experience is they trial with us and go elsewhere when a bigger club takes an interest - witness Mason Cox

That was a blessing.

Think I couldn’t back that w***er under any circumstances

 

[hilly]

Nice research. Reinforces how much of a crap shoot drafting is.

In terms of Cat B, yes.

 

[The Y Factor]

Gee the Whipping Boys are running out of Whipping Boys

I hope so I can’t stand that crap.

 

[Gasometer]

I hope so I can’t stand that crap.

It was facetious

 

[The Y Factor]

It was facetious

I know but it was the only likely opportunity to respond to that message