Pauline Hanson - One Nation Party

[Ghost Patrol]

 

[Grin]

There's a really interesting movie call 'Origin' by Ava DuVernay. Well worth a watch if you're interested in 'an exploration of prejudice, discrimination, and othering beyond just racism'

 

[NSWCROW]

Can’t say the burqa ban she is suggesting is high on my concerns as an Australian in 2026, but gee Faruqi didn’t like it.

Which is why she did it

 

[10571z]

Which is why she did it

It would have been far more powerful to ignore it and laugh than whine like a baby everytime someone in this country doesn’t act how she likes.

 

[CM86]

It would have been far more powerful to ignore it and laugh than whine like a baby everytime someone in this country doesn’t act how she likes.

You are one of the most prominent 'anti-immigration from Muslim majority societies' posters on this forum.

You clearly agree with One Nation and Hanson around banning migration from Muslim majority countries.
You've argued that migration is the downfall of the UK.


You don't want to ban religion, you want to ban migration of specific ethnicities.
It's why you, Hanson, Latham etc are racist, not atheist.

 

[evolved2]

The burqa is rooted in patriarchal systems that sexualise women and hide their hair, face, and body to protect men from being tempted.

While I think Pauline Hanson's stunt was silly, the response from the ALP and Greens politicians was even worse. I don't agree that criticism of misogynistic religious or cultural practices is racist, nor do I understand why progressives would protect them.

No religion or belief is automatically worthy of respect.

 

[10571z]

You are one of the most prominent 'anti-immigration from Muslim majority societies' posters on this forum.

You clearly agree with One Nation and Hanson around banning migration from Muslim majority countries.
You've argued that migration is the downfall of the UK.


You don't want to ban religion, you want to ban migration of specific ethnicities.
It's why you, Hanson, Latham etc are racist, not atheist.

Islam isn’t a race. Completely by choice btw.

I don’t agree with banning all Muslim immigration. I have no issue with sensibly controlled numbers from any area of the world regardless or beliefs, religion or race.

 

[CM86]

If you only care about racism, when it's against 'white people'...
Or you only care about free speech when it's about 'hate speech'...
Or you only care about Women's rights when it's to oppose 'transgenderism'
Et al.


It's because you're lying about what you care about. And you're just a hateful bigot.
Having a wife, doesn't mean you're not sexist.
Having an Asian wife that you've stated is racist, doesn't mean you're not racist.

It's your ideology and positions of intolerance of specific groups of people, that make you a bigot.

 

[evolved2]

If you only care about racism, when it's against 'white people'...
Or you only care about free speech when it's about 'hate speech'...
Or you only care about Women's rights when it's to oppose 'transgenderism'
Et al.


It's because you're lying about what you care about. And you're just a hateful bigot.
Having a wife, doesn't mean you're not sexist.
Having an Asian wife that you've stated is racist, doesn't mean you're not racist.

It's your ideology and positions of intolerance of specific groups of people, that make you a bigot.

Any thoughts about the points I made in post #4055?

 

[Carringbush2010]

The burqa is rooted in patriarchal systems that sexualise women and hide their hair, face, and body to protect men from being tempted.

While I think Pauline Hanson's stunt was silly, the response from the ALP and Greens politicians was even worse. I don't agree that criticism of misogynistic religious or cultural practices is racist, nor do I understand why progressives would protect them.

No religion or belief is automatically worthy of respect.

This isn't the criticism from hanson though, she's pointing out the inconsistency. That's her criticism.

hanson - 'burka not banned ok I'll wear it then'
the rest of the senate 'how dare you wear it!'

Fair enough, but what's her point? Her point was to offend using said inconsistency because she incorrectly believes that islam / muslim does not fit in our liberal democracy.

Checks our society is not going into Armeggedon or our society is moving to Sharia law.

Checks out, we're still a liberal democracy.

 

[Deliverance]

 

[evolved2]

This isn't the criticism from hanson though, she's pointing out the inconsistency. That's her criticism.

hanson - 'burka not banned ok I'll wear it then'
the rest of the senate 'how dare you wear it!'

Fair enough, but what's her point? Her point was to offend using said inconsistency

Which should be her right afaic.

I enjoyed seeing the usual suspects take offense as is their MO - Lidia and Mehreen.

because she incorrectly believes that islam / muslim does not fit in our liberal democracy.

Many people are of the view that Islam is incompatible with Western society and liberal values.

Have you read testimony from ex-Muslims who agree? It would be difficult for white progressives to label them racist, no matter how hard they try!

Checks our society is not going into Armeggedon or our society is moving to Sharia law.

Checks out, we're still a liberal democracy.

That's beside the point.

Should the burqa be banned? I'm in two minds tbh.

 

[CM86]

Any thoughts about the points I made in post #4055?

I didn't see any.

 

[Carringbush2010]

Which should be her right afaic.

I enjoyed seeing the usual suspects take offense as is their MO - Lidia and Mehreen.

It IS her right, democracy at work.

Many people are of the view that Islam is incompatible with Western society and liberal values.

And yet it we still have our 'western' (read liberal democratic) society

Have you read testimony from ex-Muslims who agree? It would be difficult for white progressives to label them racist, no matter how hard they try!

Ok, do they have proof that our society has changed or worsened as a result? Being a member of society I don't see it.

That's beside the point.

It SHOULD be the point.

Should the burqa be banned? I'm in two minds tbh.

No it shouldn't, because that would undemocratic and also hypocritical.

The point I'm making, regardless of burqa, muslims / islam. We STILL have a liberal democracy, nothings changed apart from the evolution of time (read not immigration).

If there's a threat of muslim / islam / sharia law taking away our liberal democracy THEN we can consider banning the burqa and other non liberal democratic things.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Which should be her right afaic.

I enjoyed seeing the usual suspects take offense as is their MO - Lidia and Mehreen.

Many people are of the view that Islam is incompatible with Western society and liberal values.

Have you read testimony from ex-Muslims who agree? It would be difficult for white progressives to label them racist, no matter how hard they try!

That's beside the point.

Should the burqa be banned? I'm in two minds tbh.

What if she wanted to ban christian trinkets or jewish hats, would you still be tap dancing?

 

[Johnny Bananas]

I enjoyed seeing the usual suspects take offense as is their MO - Lidia and Mehreen.

Seems like you care more about trolling and owning the left than everyone getting along.

 

[Carringbush2010]

What if she wanted to ban christian trinkets or jewish hats, would you still be tap dancing?

Seems like you care more about trolling and owning the left than everyone getting along.

And these are exhibits of dismissing other points of view, effectively giving ammunition to those in opposition.

Instead of claiming trolling of the left or silly arguments about 'WoT iFS Twas A ChRISChen', how about lay argument that supports that different cultures DO fit in to our multicultural liberal democracy? Hmm?

The amount of combative discourse because of ridiculous dismissive / labelling is why there is so much combative discourse.

Do better.

Same goes for you evolved2 , laughing at Lidia and Farheen is what invites responses like these that you've got. Do better.

 

[Festerz]

Pauline Hanson billed taxpayers thousands for flights, private cars and hotels to attend a private court matter in Sydney in relation to her defence of a court finding that her claims made against Greens Senator Mehreen Faruqi had breached the Racial Discrimination Act.

‘Please explain’: Coalition attacks Pauline Hanson’s use of expenses for racism case

The One Nation leader will not be able to return to the Senate chamber for the final sitting days of the year after her burqa stunt.

www.theage.com.au

The Coalition seized on the Queenslander’s use of expenses, arguing it was not acceptable to use public funds for a personal dispute.

Conservatives have been uneasy about brawling with Hanson since the election as public anxiety about immigration has increased. However, repeated attempts to ban Muslim head coverings and her use of expenses have opened up new terrain for Opposition Leader Sussan Ley and the Nationals to start contesting Hanson’s rise.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

And these are exhibits of dismissing other points of view, effectively giving ammunition to those in opposition.

Instead of claiming trolling of the left or silly arguments about 'WoT iFS Twas A ChRISChen', how about lay argument that supports that different cultures DO fit in to our multicultural liberal democracy? Hmm?

The amount of discourse because of ridiculous dismissive / labelling is why there is discourse.

Do better.

Same goes for you evolved2 , laughing at Lidia and Farheen is what invites responses like these that you've got. Do better.

Sorry mate, I thought this was a discourse thread on the discourse forum.

 

[Gough]

Pauline Hanson billed taxpayers thousands for flights, private cars and hotels to attend a private court matter in Sydney in relation to her defence of a court finding that her claims made against Greens Senator Mehreen Faruqi had breached the Racial Discrimination Act.

‘Please explain’: Coalition attacks Pauline Hanson’s use of expenses for racism case

The One Nation leader will not be able to return to the Senate chamber for the final sitting days of the year after her burqa stunt.

www.theage.com.au

The Coalition seized on the Queenslander’s use of expenses, arguing it was not acceptable to use public funds for a personal dispute.

Conservatives have been uneasy about brawling with Hanson since the election as public anxiety about immigration has increased. However, repeated attempts to ban Muslim head coverings and her use of expenses have opened up new terrain for Opposition Leader Sussan Ley and the Nationals to start contesting Hanson’s rise.

Sussan's own Operation Barbarossa not content with fighting factional battles she's opening a second front against One Nation. Good luck with that.

 

[Underarm]

It would have been far more powerful to ignore it and laugh than whine like a baby everytime someone in this country doesn’t act how she likes.

Pauline was going to introduce legislation for debate around Banning the 'Burqa', as a dog whistle against Muslims and other asain cultures. It was impossible for it to be ignored.

 

[Festerz]

Pauline was going to introduce legislation for debate around Banning the 'Burqa', as a dog whistle against Muslims and other asain cultures. It was impossible for it to be ignored.

The same stunt she pulled 8 years ago, using the same costume. Rinse/Wash/Repeat.

It's a publicity stunt - aimed at the right wing racist, bigoted heartland of her supporter base - and nothing more.

And it should come as no surprise that she is untroubled by being banned from the Senate for seven sitting days. After all, she has already missed a total of 9 of the 30 Senate sitting days this parliamentary session - including absence to attend Trump's MAGA party at his Mar-a-Lago Florida mansion earlier this month as Gina Rinehart's plus one.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Sussan's own Operation Barbarossa not content with fighting factional battles she's opening a second front against One Nation. Good luck with that.

She kinda has to, her party is haemorrhaging votes to One Nation.

 

[Seeds]

She kinda has to, her party is haemorrhaging votes to One Nation.

For every vote it loses to One Nation its losing 3 votes to Labor.

 

[Demonic Ascent]

The burqa is rooted in patriarchal systems that sexualise women and hide their hair, face, and body to protect men from being tempted.

While I think Pauline Hanson's stunt was silly, the response from the ALP and Greens politicians was even worse. I don't agree that criticism of misogynistic religious or cultural practices is racist, nor do I understand why progressives would protect them.

No religion or belief is automatically worthy of respect.

There are two problems with your argument. You're assuming Hanson's stunt was targeted against patriarchal systems instead of a dog whistle to racist nuffies and you're assertion that the response from the ALP and Greens was "even worse" is just plain wrong.

 

[NSWCROW]

How many years left in her term ?