Religion Bondi shooting - 16 confirmed dead at Jewish event

[Mitcham VIC 3132]

I'm willing to bet on how Mehreen F. and David Bootpath Shoebridge will embarrass themselves even worse than Hanson is doing.

 

[Mitchell Madness]

Are people just assuming the hero who took down the gunman is Muslim because of his name? Or is their actually a source

Yes.
Hes supposedly a Lebanese Christian

 

[Del203211]

Sick of division. Sick of hate.

Far too much hate in the world right now.

Thoughts and prayers to all families affected.

 

[1990crow]

I ask again - should we embrace the darkness or should we each of us strive to be a better human?

Kindness costs NOTHING.

John Lennon wrote a song for this exact idea.

 

[Gough]

John Lennon wrote a song for this exact idea.

Imagine no religion.

 

[Drought Break]

Guy had gun taken from him, falls back to the bridge to be with his buddy Naveed, grabs another gun and both go until they are taken down. Shirtless guy stomps on the guy who had the gun take from him.

From the footage, it seem that Naveed was motionless (dead), and guy who had gun taken from him was still moving (so assuming he is the one in critical condition in hospital.

The brave man who disarmed one of the terrorists, I wish he put a round into his leg. That would have stopped him running back, getting another rifle and continue shooting. He may have been the one who shot that brave man. Hope he didn’t shoot anyone else after he was disarmed

 

[Deliverance]

No, you're ignoring what i said - that "anti-Zionism is not anti-Judaism" is just rhetoric not an argument.

For in practice this "argument" doesn’t really stand up to scrutiny. For the great majority of the world’s Jews, now and throughout history, identification with the Land of Israel as the historic homeland of the Jewish people, and the belief that the Jews should and will return there, has been and is still central to their identity as Jews, and this is true of both religious and secular Jews. To deny the legitimacy of that identity and that aspiration is in effect an attack on the Jewish people, and is experienced as such by the great majority of Jews.

Again, the hypocrisy of the Australian left on this, given how they derided the monarchists in 1999, is vile.

They have a homeland, it's called Israel. People calling out a genocide against Palestinians is not denying Jewish identity. Calling out land theft in the West bank is not denying jewish identity. Calling out occupation is not denying Jewish identity.

 

[Achy Blakey Heart]

Yes.
Hes supposedly a Lebanese Christian

If true, that will be very inconvenient.

 

[Achy Blakey Heart]

John Lennon wrote a song for this exact idea.

" Happiness is a warm gun"
"Woman is the N****r of the world"
- John Lennon

 

[The Sultan]

People are cancer. Religion is one of many props or causes used to justify poor behaviour at times but people and their hate are the real problem and people need to take responsibility for that.

exactly.

 

[Del203211]

People are cancer. Religion is one of many props or causes used to justify poor behaviour at times but people and their hate are the real problem and people need to take responsibility for that.

100% this. All day, every day.

 

[1990crow]

" Happiness is a warm gun"
"Woman is the N****r of the world"
- John Lennon

He wasn't a saint.

 

[Gigantic]

Are people just assuming the hero who took down the gunman is Muslim because of his name? Or is their actually a source

Yes.
Hes supposedly a Lebanese Christian

Everyone's assuming at this point but going off names alone...

Ahmed is not a common name amongst Lebanese Christians.

His relatives name is Mustafa, which is also not a common name for Lebanese Christians.

 

[The Sultan]

Mitcham VIC 3132

how about we call out all violence and persecution against innocent people just going about their day.

 

[Obeanie1]

Are you suggesting this shooting was justified as a response to Israel's genocide?

In the minds of the shooters that likely is the case.

Every innocent civilian killed in Gaza leaves behind seeds for future retaliation.

 

[The Terrible Thinker]

Complete cowardness from 2 dickheads who thinks shooting innocent people who aren't prepared to fight back will give them salvation into heaven. Pure evil, that's all can be said here.

If they had any balls, they would have flown back to whatever sh1thole they originated from and fight their battles there along with their comrades against their common enemy.

 

[Festerz]

A moving article in the Jerusalem Post celebrating the brave actions of Ahmed al-Amed in disarming one of the gunmen in yesterday's massacres.

The footage is hard to watch, and impossible to forget.

On the eve of Hanukkah’s first night, as families gathered on Bondi Beach to celebrate the Festival of Lights, gunfire tore through the crowd. Then, in the middle of chaos, one man did the unthinkable. Identified by Australian and international media as Ahmed al-Ahmed, a 43-year-old Sydney fruit shop owner and father of two, he moved toward the attacker, wrapped him from behind, wrestled away the long gun, and forced the shooter to retreat. He was shot and hospitalized, but his split-second decision is widely credited with preventing even greater carnage.

There is something profoundly Hanukkah about that moment.

Not because Ahmed is Jewish (as far as the reporting shows, he is not), and not because heroism belongs to any one people or faith. It is Hanukkah because Hanukkah is the insistence that light is not a metaphor. It is a responsibility. A candle does not negotiate with darkness. It pushes back, stubbornly, flame-first...

In Jewish history, the phrase “Righteous Among the Nations” is reserved for non-Jews who risked everything to save Jews during the Holocaust, recognized by Yad Vashem under a framework established by Israeli law. The names are etched into the Jewish conscience: Oskar Schindler, who used his factory to save Jews marked for death, and Raoul Wallenberg, who helped rescue Jews in Budapest with Swedish protective papers. Chiune Sugihara, a Japanese diplomat who issued visas that became lifelines. Irena Sendler, a Polish social worker who helped smuggle Jewish children out of the Warsaw Ghetto. The Ulma family in Poland, murdered for hiding Jews.

These stories are not only about the Holocaust, but they are also about moral clarity under pressure, the choice to see a fellow human being and refuse to look away.

Ahmed al-Ahmed belongs in that moral family tree.

The setting is different. The century is different. The weaponry is different. But the basic equation is hauntingly familiar: Jews gather publicly as Jews, and someone decides that visibility is a crime punishable by death. That is not politics. That is not “tension.” That is hatred with a body count. Australian authorities have treated this Bondi Beach massacre as a terror attack targeting a Jewish Hanukkah gathering.

So what does the Jewish world do when a non-Jew quite literally runs into the line of fire to save Jewish lives?

First, say thank you loudly, clearly, and repeatedly. Not with vague platitudes about “humanity,” but with a direct acknowledgment of what he did: he likely saved dozens, perhaps hundreds, by stopping at least one gunman in the middle of an active attack. Gratitude should not be whispered, especially not in an era when moral cowardice is often presented as sophistication.

Second, honor him, publicly and formally.

It is time for Jewish organizations in Australia and worldwide to elevate Ahmed al-Ahmed as a symbol of what courage looks like when it is unscripted and unpolished, when it comes from instinct and decency rather than ideology. He did not have to calculate the risk. He lived it. According to reports, he was wounded and underwent medical treatment after being shot during the confrontation.

The Jewish world should honor, praise Ahmed al-Ahmed | The Jerusalem Post

Ahmed al-Ahmed belongs in that moral family tree of the "Righteous Among the Nations."

www.jpost.com

 

[Exquisite Hams]

Yes.
Hes supposedly a Lebanese Christian

Very unlikely given his name. Hopefully he is Islamic. It shows there are many good Muslims here and we can live in peace with others.

 

[PiCkLeJuiCe]

Sick of division. Sick of hate.

Far too much hate in the world right now.

Thoughts and prayers to all families affected.

Division permeates pretty much everything and hate isn't too far behind. Even sport, as Orwell once said, is just war minus the shooting.

 

[kalex6251]

predictably ..... bolt and the rest of the murdoch hate hyenas are all over this like flies on a dungheap

 

[PiCkLeJuiCe]

A moving article in the Jerusalem Post celebrating the brave actions of Ahmed al-Amed in disarming one of the gunmen in yesterday's massacres.

The footage is hard to watch, and impossible to forget.

On the eve of Hanukkah’s first night, as families gathered on Bondi Beach to celebrate the Festival of Lights, gunfire tore through the crowd. Then, in the middle of chaos, one man did the unthinkable. Identified by Australian and international media as Ahmed al-Ahmed, a 43-year-old Sydney fruit shop owner and father of two, he moved toward the attacker, wrapped him from behind, wrestled away the long gun, and forced the shooter to retreat. He was shot and hospitalized, but his split-second decision is widely credited with preventing even greater carnage.

There is something profoundly Hanukkah about that moment.

Not because Ahmed is Jewish (as far as the reporting shows, he is not), and not because heroism belongs to any one people or faith. It is Hanukkah because Hanukkah is the insistence that light is not a metaphor. It is a responsibility. A candle does not negotiate with darkness. It pushes back, stubbornly, flame-first...

In Jewish history, the phrase “Righteous Among the Nations” is reserved for non-Jews who risked everything to save Jews during the Holocaust, recognized by Yad Vashem under a framework established by Israeli law. The names are etched into the Jewish conscience: Oskar Schindler, who used his factory to save Jews marked for death, and Raoul Wallenberg, who helped rescue Jews in Budapest with Swedish protective papers. Chiune Sugihara, a Japanese diplomat who issued visas that became lifelines. Irena Sendler, a Polish social worker who helped smuggle Jewish children out of the Warsaw Ghetto. The Ulma family in Poland, murdered for hiding Jews.

These stories are not only about the Holocaust, but they are also about moral clarity under pressure, the choice to see a fellow human being and refuse to look away.

Ahmed al-Ahmed belongs in that moral family tree.

The setting is different. The century is different. The weaponry is different. But the basic equation is hauntingly familiar: Jews gather publicly as Jews, and someone decides that visibility is a crime punishable by death. That is not politics. That is not “tension.” That is hatred with a body count. Australian authorities have treated this Bondi Beach massacre as a terror attack targeting a Jewish Hanukkah gathering.

So what does the Jewish world do when a non-Jew quite literally runs into the line of fire to save Jewish lives?

First, say thank you loudly, clearly, and repeatedly. Not with vague platitudes about “humanity,” but with a direct acknowledgment of what he did: he likely saved dozens, perhaps hundreds, by stopping at least one gunman in the middle of an active attack. Gratitude should not be whispered, especially not in an era when moral cowardice is often presented as sophistication.

Second, honor him, publicly and formally.

It is time for Jewish organizations in Australia and worldwide to elevate Ahmed al-Ahmed as a symbol of what courage looks like when it is unscripted and unpolished, when it comes from instinct and decency rather than ideology. He did not have to calculate the risk. He lived it. According to reports, he was wounded and underwent medical treatment after being shot during the confrontation.

The Jewish world should honor, praise Ahmed al-Ahmed | The Jerusalem Post

Ahmed al-Ahmed belongs in that moral family tree of the "Righteous Among the Nations."

www.jpost.com

Thanks for posting that. A glimmer of sunlight in an otherwise gloomy day.

 

[RUNVS]

He wasn't a saint.

John Lennon was a complete prick. Would routinely beat his first wife too.

 

[Vindicater]

What an absolute nightmare.

We need to once again think about gun laws in Australia.

 

[cartwright]

What an absolute nightmare.

We need to once again think about gun laws in Australia.

Why did this man need 6 guns?

 

[Exquisite Hams]

I am too young to really remember but after Port Arthur John Howard showed leadership in taking on his own party to reform gun laws. Albanese has turned a blind eye to anti-Semitism and pander to Islamic extremists for votes in Western Sydney. Does he have the courage to stand up and do what is right regardless of politics and stamp out this extremism? I think not. But I hope I am wrong