Religion Bondi shooting - 16 confirmed dead at Jewish event

[Markfs]

I think, we all have the right to gather and march.....

Peacefully.

but what if that marching makes Pickle feel threatened?

 

[Markfs]

Albo has apologised for the shooting and the antisemitism. Penny Wong has apologised for it. Now Assistant Immigration Minister Matt Thistlethwaite has apologised profusely for the Bondi attacks.

Isn't it time to deal out some punishment?

 

[campbell]

but what if that marching makes Pickle feel threatened?

ah, we have the old politics of fear happening at the moment, generated by the media and politicians.

 

[Markfs]

ah, we have the old politics of fear happening at the moment, generated by the media and politicians.

No, when people protest against israel, people like Pickles feel threatened...what the media do is after the fact. They embellish it. The start of it occurs when you protest against Israel. So the gov't comes in and stops the protest. However, it wouldnt do that unless Pickles felt threatened and complained.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Albo has apologised for the shooting and the antisemitism. Penny Wong has apologised for it. Now Assistant Immigration Minister Matt Thistlethwaite has apologised profusely for the Bondi attacks.

Isn't it time to deal out some punishment?

So they’re taking responsibility for not taking stronger action against antisemitism?

 

[Markfs]

So they’re taking responsibility for not taking stronger action against antisemitism?

i dont know if they are taking responsibility. I dont think they said those words. They said that they were sorry for what they did or didnt do. They didnt mention specifics.

Do you want them to say something more specific? What do you want them to say to make you feel better?

 

[Gough]

I doubt Albanese would want an RC because I'd be surprised if they didn't find that Israel's actions in Gaza were at least part responsible for the shooter's motivation and that would be awkward for everyone.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

i dont know if they are taking responsibility. I dont think they said those words. They said that they were sorry for what they did or didnt do. They didnt mention specifics.

Do you want them to say something more specific? What do you want them to say to make you feel better?

As long as they feel better, that’s all that matters.

 

[Freomaniac]

I am an absolute anti-Zionist. I recognise that Jewish civilians were targeted at a civilian event to mark the Jewish Festival of Lights known as Hanukkah or Chanukah - both spellings are correct according to this;



It's wrong, this senseless slaughter. Very wrong. What Netanyahu's Israel is doing is an incredible evil but for you to think that this attack on civilians is something we anti-Zionists would applaud is also very, very wrong.

crazy how my Account was banned or suspended for 2 weeks.... then This crazy bondi incident happened.

 

[Demonic Ascent]

It means rebellion, or uprising. A civilian uprising against oppression.

Careful, soon you'll be in hot water when words like rebellion, revolution, uprising, oppression etc are on the banned list.

 

[Demonic Ascent]

“There is only one solution - Intifada revolution”

What was my comment?

“ Can’t believe this garbage happened on our streets”

I stand by that.

One solution to what?

 

[10571z]

Gawd help us.
When my kids were little, they accompanied me on marches through Melbourne streets.
It was our right to group together for our beliefs....
in our case, workcover,and school closures.

*your beliefs

 

[Demonic Ascent]

I mean you could answer my question?

First of all nothing should be done to the child. It’s simply disappointing to see children lead chants asking for uprising on Australian soil.

Why are they chanting that? For what purpose? So Hamas see the video? Just another chant and protest that does nothing to actually help anything and potentially inflame passions of people from either side.

As a show of solidarity with people currently on the end of ethnic cleansing at best, if not outright genocide?

 

[Demonic Ascent]

I’ve said it in this thread before, and naturally it wasn’t received well. I’ve always thought this was the wrong take. This “unity” that supposedly upsets terrorists so much only amounts to shackling ourselves further. It basically means watch your language, be permanently on egg shells.

I do want to be divided; I want to divide extremists out of our society permanently. You know what I bet terrorists hate more than seeing people carrying on as normal on the beaches of Bondi after they’ve gunned down a ****load of people? Being deported and imprisoned.

That's why we have a criminal code, so people who break the law can be excluded from society.

I think you've missed the point of a call to unity. It's not a call to pander to extremists; it's a call to ensure people aren't excluded solely on the basis of their race, religion, nationality, gender, sexual orientation, physical or mental disability etc etc

 

[ElectricG]

I think you've missed the point of a call to unity. It's not a call to pander to extremists; it's a call to ensure people aren't excluded solely on the basis of their race, religion, nationality, gender, sexual orientation, physical or mental disability etc etc

Oh believe me, I get it. People get slaughtered in the street and the answer is that the people who did nothing wrong should cop a lecture about how racism is bad. It’s ****ing lame and cowardly. Whatever the “call” of our leaders is, it should have anyone else with Islamic terrorist sympathies shitting themselves. But nope, it’s always on everybody but them.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Oh believe me, I get it. People get slaughtered in the street and the answer is that the people who did nothing wrong should cop a lecture about how racism is bad. It’s ****ing lame and cowardly. Whatever the “call” of our leaders is, it should have anyone else with Islamic terrorist sympathies shitting themselves. But nope, it’s always on everybody but them.

Can you explain how banning a word will address your concerns?

 

[ElectricG]

Can you explain how banning a word will address your concerns?

I’m not sure it will. In reality I think it will just add another layer of bureaucracy to Australia’s commitment to doing as little as possible about Islamic extremism.

 

[Markfs]

crazy how my Account was banned or suspended for 2 weeks.... then This crazy bondi incident happened.

Nothing has been reported for three days, about that antisemitic perth guy. Maybe he's banned for another 11 days.

 

[Markfs]

As long as they feel better, that’s all that matters.

well i dont know if there are any living in freo so I can knock on their doors and ask them if they need their lawns mowed.

 

[Carringbush2010]

Can’t believe this garbage happened on our streets.

So I've read a few comments ITT in regard to what this chant actually means, further down the thread. Not surprisingly it all depends on where your support compass lies.

'Yalla Yalla intifada'

Going by a google search, seems it is subject to opinion.



So it is not exactly a direct call for violence, however two things.

• If you're an Israeli or Jewish, this may come across as inciteful
• I'm not really a fan of a tit for tat between the Jewish community and the Islamic community on home soil. I'd rather they have at it outside of the public arena and leave the rest of us in peace.

Yeah I know it would be hypocritical to not allow that young girl to 'protest' in our liberal democracy, so in before that question gets raised.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

I doubt Albanese would want an RC because I'd be surprised if they didn't find that Israel's actions in Gaza were at least part responsible for the shooter's motivation and that would be awkward for everyone.

It would also be declaring the shooter to be a total dumbass, to conflate the state of Israel, with mom and dad Jews in sydney. But i guess whe already knew they were dumbasses.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Albo has apologised for the shooting and the antisemitism. Penny Wong has apologised for it. Now Assistant Immigration Minister Matt Thistlethwaite has apologised profusely for the Bondi attacks.

Isn't it time to deal out some punishment?

Sure , Nail Penny to a Cross.
That'll fix everything.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Probably yeah. Definitely should have had their weapons impounded at least till their trip to Mindinao was properly investigated.

Altho people who go to Mindinao and disappear off the radar for a while shouldn't be considered terrorists. Its something I'm considering doing at some point.

I suspected it at the time and the more i read the more i'm sure.
Those admistering gun licenses are a case study of stereotype lazy public service.
Jihad Jack was issued a gun license "AFTER " he was charged.
There are plenty of others, some with devastating results.
It pre-dates Albanese, though...granted, it was ultimately his job to fix it...somewhere in the inbox i suppose.
We don't need new laws, we need to make currant laws work.

 

[Demonic Ascent]

Oh believe me, I get it. People get slaughtered in the street and the answer is that the people who did nothing wrong should cop a lecture about how racism is bad. It’s ****ing lame and cowardly. Whatever the “call” of our leaders is, it should have anyone else with Islamic terrorist sympathies shitting themselves. But nope, it’s always on everybody but them.

Nah, you don't get it.

 

[Demonic Ascent]

that said I would be dirty as **** if fighting a defensive war. No such thing as war crimes in my mind defending land, and I suppose there could be a line between targeting energy facilities/ manufacturing inside the country that is invading me and killing civilians
I suppose Netty could be thinking this is still some form of defensive war

I'm sure the Palestinians think likewise.