It seems Jude might have some currency...

[CharlieG]

... going by the spate of threads across this site from fans who would like him at their club.

Maybe a first round pick is possible?

 

[Jeffers]

... going by the spate of threads across this site from fans who would like him at their club.

Maybe a first round pick is possible?

YES. Definitely worth a first rounder. Talk him up everyone.

 

[warney7]

Haha

First rounder?

I'll concede he may fetch a low 20's pick but can't imagine anyone giving away a first rounder!!

I certainly wouldn't want him at Essendon.......too old now.

 

[DeadlyAkkuret]

First rounder easily! What a talent, and hardness to boot. Top 15 pick

 

[bloods01]

Haha

First rounder?

I'll concede he may fetch a low 20's pick but can't imagine anyone giving away a first rounder!!

I certainly wouldn't want him at Essendon.......too old now.

Yeh 27 is way too old. You guys like them in their 30's like Campo

 

[warney7]

If any of you believe that a guy with 3 years left in his career is worth a first round pick..........you've become too attached!

But if someone is silly enough, then all power to you.

He might help a team like Collingwood who are pretty close it would seem, but noone else will trade a first rounder.........guaranteed!

 

[FM0226]

If any of you believe that a guy with 3 years left in his career is worth a first round pick..........you've become too attached!

But if someone is silly enough, then all power to you.

He might help a team like Collingwood who are pretty close it would seem, but noone else will trade a first rounder.........guaranteed!

We can hope though
Maybe they'll bite if we throw in our third rounder as well

 

[Caj]

There's no point trading him if we dont get a top 10 pick, some melbourne club may offer it but i doubt it

 

[DST]

When push comes to shove, no one on these boards will give up a first rounder for him and I doubt the clubs would either.

IMHO he remains far more valuable to us now than what we could get for him and Roos in his press confrence said as much as well.

DST

 

[Corpuscles]

IMO he would only be bait to try attract a potential KP defender if they have one in mind. There are some clubs that could do with really do with a hard at it mature leader in the midfield!

 

[scottwade]

IMO he would only be bait to try attract a potential KP defender if they have one in mind. There are some clubs that could do with really do with a hard at it mature leader in the midfield!

Jude will be 28 in March next year, therefore any team that took him would need to consider themselves a contender within the next 2 years.

I can't see any of last years top 6 (Geel, Port, WCE, NM, Haw,Coll), being interested as each either has similar players and/or good depth.

Of the possible 5 improvers (WB, Bris, Freo, Ess, Melb) they either already have slow centre square players (Ess, Melb, Freo), depth (Bris) or a different game plan (WBD, who already have West & Cross as extractors and base their game on foot skills).

That leaves Carlton & Richmond (too old), Adelaide (obviously not interested) or St Kilda.

And Ross Lyon, much as he would probably like inside grunt, would be aware of Jude's decline.

Now if my maths is correct, that's all other 15 clubs and I can't see any of them offering anything substantial for Jude.

 

[Corpuscles]

Of the possible 5 improvers (WB, Bris, Freo, Ess, Melb) they either already have slow centre square players (Ess, Melb, Freo), depth (Bris) or a different game plan (WBD, who already have West & Cross as extractors and base their game on foot skills).

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I agree with most but Dogs Dees and Tiggers could use and benefit from mature leadership and maturity for guidance. Those were the ones I had in mind.

I think we have benefitted enormously by having the likes of Schwass and Willo come in to a younger midfield (at the time).

They all want to know the "inside mail" about how Swans midfield works and the young ones at those team only have S West, K Johnson.... (1 year max) ,and Trav J ....who is on the outer anyway!

 

[rancidpants13]

Jude will be 28 in March next year, therefore any team that took him would need to consider themselves a contender within the next 2 years.

I can't see any of last years top 6 (Geel, Port, WCE, NM, Haw,Coll), being interested as each either has similar players and/or good depth.

Of the possible 5 improvers (WB, Bris, Freo, Ess, Melb) they either already have slow centre square players (Ess, Melb, Freo), depth (Bris) or a different game plan (WBD, who already have West & Cross as extractors and base their game on foot skills).

That leaves Carlton & Richmond (too old), Adelaide (obviously not interested) or St Kilda.

And Ross Lyon, much as he would probably like inside grunt, would be aware of Jude's decline.

Now if my maths is correct, that's all other 15 clubs and I can't see any of them offering anything substantial for Jude.

i have said it somewhere else today, but i think jude will go to either dees (for miller), dogs (for jordan mcmahon unless he goes to richmond) or saints (for maybe one of the clarke brothers).....i'm still looking more to the miller deal at melbourne, the dees need a midfielder with serious courage and the right attitude to help the likes of nathan jones

 

[scottwade]

the dees need a midfielder with serious courage and the right attitude to help the likes of nathan jones

I would have thought that Mclean, Sylvia & Jones were all relatively similar players to Jude. Plus they have McDonald & Moloney on their books who are also centre square players and Bate won a Morrish Medal playing primarily on ball.

I can't see Melbourne having much interest in Jude, particularly with a new coach, who's unlikely to want to be seen trading in a 28yo, whilst putting Johnstone on the trading block.

And please neither of the Clarkes, they spend almost as much time in the treatment room as Doyle.
I also see no reason for another running HBF/wing in McMahon, we now have Tadhg, Malceski, Mattner Barlow & Laidlaw all capable of filling that role.

 

[rancidpants13]

I would have thought that Mclean, Sylvia & Jones were all relatively similar players to Jude. Plus they have McDonald & Moloney on their books who are also centre square players and Bate won a Morrish Medal playing primarily on ball.

I can't see Melbourne having much interest in Jude, particularly with a new coach, who's unlikely to want to be seen trading in a 28yo, whilst putting Johnstone on the trading block.

And please neither of the Clarkes, they spend almost as much time in the treatment room as Doyle.
I also see no reason for another running HBF/wing in McMahon, we now have Tadhg, Malceski, Mattner Barlow & Laidlaw all capable of filling that role.

mclean and sylvia have no brains

 

[smasher]

I can't see what the hype is about getting Sherman.He had a horrid season this year.

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

Hey Swans fans - I put this to you.

If Carlton somehow managed a deal for Thornton that involved us receiving a sub-#20 pick (unlikely, but Hawthorn may be inclined).

Would you then be happy to swap Jude for our Pick #20 ?

Would compliment our midfield beautifully - as he could play that tagging role we were after when we chased Baker a few weeks back.

A midfield of: Judd, Stevens, Bolton, Murphy, Carrazzo would be frightening !

 

[liz]

Would compliment our midfield beautifully - as he could play that tagging role we were after when we chased Baker a few weeks back.

Kirk tags. McVeigh tags. Crouch tags. Ablett tags. Mathews tags. Dempster tags. Some of them do other things as well. Some of them (notably Kirk) do those other things very very well. But they all tag.

Bolton does not tag. Never quite understood how he's escaped the tagging school but he never ever seems to be asked to play a tagging role.

 

[FM0226]

Kirk tags. McVeigh tags. Crouch tags. Ablett tags. Mathews tags. Dempster tags. Some of them do other things as well. Some of them (notably Kirk) do those other things very very well. But they all tag.

Bolton does not tag. Never quite understood how he's escaped the tagging school but he never ever seems to be asked to play a tagging role.

Agreed. Bolton is definitely more a 'hard-ball get' player rather than a tagger. When he sees a loose ball, he'll go in hard and he'll tackle anyone or anything that's gets in his way - most of his tackles are from stoppages rather than general play. On his day, he'll win a lot of hard balls, make a tackles, but not stop his direct opponent getting the footy.

In fact, he's a pretty poor man-marker, his direct opponent usually has a field day (especially since he played in more forward flank type of positions this year).

As for why he dodged the tagging school, that's because he came from the old school (Eade), I think we were trying to make him a Kelly-like courageous-type of small forward (took very good grabs and goals in his early days) and started moving him inside when he lost his leap. I don't think Fosdike was used as a tagger much too. In fact, I recall Cresswell being used as a tagger in his latter years.