Marriage equality debate - Pt.3 - Australia votes yes

[RupieDupie]

From the AFR via Twitter:

I love the Tony Abbott stat

 

[ep2018]

Wow most NSW no electorates have high immigration from countries that tend to execute gays... who would have thought.

 

[Gough]

Imagine poor old Christopher Pyne if his electorate had voted no...

That's my electorate, we were almost identical to the national outcome.

 

[Niximus]

I think I heard 37k invalids.

16,912 blank
19,774 response not clear

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Another way to look at it is:
49% Yes
30% No
21% Abstained

So a solid Yes without been the comprehensive affirmative expected. We are still a pretty conservative country.

Why should we assume that the abstained are conservative?

It was very comprehensive with over 60% voting yes. That's all that matters.

 

[Maggie5]

Just please don't have people role playing as gay couples in schools.

What? Where?
The only place I have seen this is in the media and from the 'No' campaign.
Have two kids in Primary school and they haven't seen it.

 

[TimmeT]

Found it funny that shorten knew HD had to make this a binding issue for the party as all those tolerant Muslim seats in Sydney's west voted no by a large majority.

 

[EasternTiger]

Yeah where's EasternTiger ??

Please tell me I didn't bet my account on the result.

 

[Run n Spread]

Why should we assume that the abstained are conservative?

It was very comprehensive with over 60% voting yes. That's all that matters.

True. Don't know if 60% is very comprehensive. Solid.

 

[Gough]

True. Don't know if 60% is very comprehensive. Solid.

In any election that's a landslide.

 

[Richo83]

Not buying the assumption abstainers were all conservatives. Many of them were young people who as usual are lazy. Voting results much higher with older age groups.

 

[RupieDupie]

Wow most NSW no electorates have high immigration from countries that tend to execute gays... who would have thought.

Interesting also, that if a gubmint creates a law based on religious views that they cannot then cry "religious freedom!" when the shoe is on the other foot, should have not made a law based on religion in the first place. What other kind of whacky laws may we see in the future, introduced based on the culture and understanding of people who lived centuries ago?

 

[TimmeT]

He'll abstain because he's a disingenuous coward.

Conservative politicians play their base for the fools they are. That's how they get elected.

Why would anyone expect any different?

Lol don't blame or attack conservative politicians for abstaining. If labor didn't bind their parliamentarians and they weren't going to be booted by the party for voting no on Line with their electorate then we'd see a few of them do the same. Wonder how politicians like husic and Claire will be looked at and supported by some of their constituents. Seems the seats who are the most anti gay are relatively safe centre left ones.

 

[EagleShore]

Gareth Parker just DESTROYED Eric Abetz on 882 6PR.

Excellent listening.

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[Richo83]

Interesting only one nationals seat voted no. Most of them were faily even but sizable support in rural Australia which is good to see.

 

[NSWCROW]

All this Gay marriage talks got me swoonin , thank * the more " hetero-friendly " WWE Smackdown is about to start.....

 

[Father Jack]

In any election that's a landslide.

especially when you factor in the water-muddying nonsense from the 'no' side.

 

[RW]

Turnbull's electorate of Wentworth voted 80.8% in favour of SSM.

There are a lot of Jewish SSM supporters in Wentworth (my electorate). In Melbourne too.

While same sex relations aren't permitted in Judaism, for the (fairly obvious) reason that man and woman were created to complement each other physically, emotionally and spiritually, realistically, none of us are so righteous that we are in a position to judge others for their lifestyle choices, which let's face it are probably none of our business anyway. We don't know why some men and women were born with a different sexual preference, but the fact is, they were, and I can't see any reason why they shouldn't be treated equally under the law. Some, mostly orthodox Jews did vote no, but most I know in the Jewish community would have voted yes. Even if the 'no' voters believe SSM is 'wrong', they have no right to force that belief on others if it is not harming them.

(Disclaimer: I didn't vote, as I'm overseas, and I didn't think the vote was going to be so close that an extra vote either way would have influenced the outcome. But I think it's a good result, for the reasons I've mentioned above.)

 

[Happy Mastenator]

True. Don't know if 60% is very comprehensive. Solid.

Only five federal elections in Australian history have seen the winner in the two party preferred exceed 55% with a top of 58.5% back in 1931. 60%+ is a thrashing

 

[QuietB]

True. Don't know if 60% is very comprehensive. Solid.

20 years ago that would have been 30%

20 years time it will be 90%

 

[NSWCROW]

Please tell me I didn't bet my account on the result.

Hahahhaa fair shout that.

At least you've turned up , can't speak for roscreasl98 , he must still be at playgroup

 

[TimmeT]

There are a lot of Jewish SSM supporters in Wentworth (my electorate). In Melbourne too.

While same sex relations aren't permitted in Judaism, for the (fairly obvious) reason that man and woman were created to complement each other physically, emotionally and spiritually, realistically, none of us are so righteous that we are in a position to judge others for their lifestyle choices, which let's face it are probably none of our business anyway. We don't know why some men and women were born with a different sexual preference, but the fact is, they were, and I can't see any reason why they shouldn't be treated equally under the law. Some, mostly orthodox Jews did vote no, but most I know in the Jewish community would have voted yes. Even if the 'no' voters believe SSM is 'wrong', they have no right to force that belief on others if it is not harming them.

(Disclaimer: I didn't vote, as I'm overseas, and I didn't think the vote was going to be so close that an extra vote either way would have influenced the outcome. But I think it's a good result, for the reasons I've mentioned above.)

There was an excellent show with a rabbi on ABC who talked about SSM and Judaism was an excellent insight into how its dealt with in their religion and worth listening if you can download.

 

[Drakescoffeecake]

There's so much hypocrisy in campaigning for love.

Nah. There really isn't.

 

[Underarm]

In any election that's a landslide.

Landslide doesn't mean what it used to. Donald Trump seems to think a 2% loss is a landslide victory.

 

[Flameboy]

In any election that's a landslide.

It's an issue that 49% of Australians voted for change on. We can obviously assume that of the 21% that didn't vote, enough would have voted yes to bring that overall number up to 55-60% had the vote been compulsory. But we can only assume that. Which is why I think solid win is probably a better description of it as opposed to landslide.