List Mgmt. 2019 Trade Thread

[Keg on legs]

Noah barracks for Richmond.

Well that's poo then

 

[pebblesofsand]

According to this article the answer for lowly clubs is not free agents - but "pre agents"

Target those players who are likely to leave the following year - offer the player the big money and guarantee the clubs better draft returns

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl...e-key-pre-agents-of-2019-20190326-p517m8.html

Obviously, the majority of these players will remain with their clubs and some might be re-contracted during 2019. But, based on what happened last year and the shifting landscape of trades, there's also a genuine chance that some pre-agents will be traded to a new home 12 months before they're free to exercise their rights as free agents, 12 months before their clubs would gain a compensation draft pick.

Here's a hypothetical: St Kilda, desperate to improve and with oodles of space in their salary cap, offer Whitfield (certain to attract suitors dangling millions and a kind-of local from Mount Martha) a long-term deal at more than $1 million a season, bearing in mind that he would immediately become their premier player.

GWS re-sign Coniglio and Josh Kelly this year - as seems more likely than not - further cramping their salary cap. They can't afford to pay Whitfield AND Cameron at those kind of rates.

The Saints have, say, pick No. 2 in the national draft. If GWS lose Whitfield as a free agent in 2020, they will receive only a pick in the teens (given they'll likely play finals). So, a mutual decision is reached this year - Whitfield will be traded, as Shiel was, 12 months ahead of his free agency period, for pick No. 2 and maybe even another late choice."

 

[Mikka84]

Cheers. Yeah i realise he is this year's draft. What i was getting at is that if we couldn't get him this year we will grab him after 2 years at his minder club, Bing style (touch wood on both)

Ahh, gotcha. I’m a bit slow on the uptake this week.

 

[Mikka84]

Noah barracks for Richmond.

Bandwagon scum.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

According to this article the answer for lowly clubs is not free agents - but "pre agents"

Target those players who are likely to leave the following year - offer the player the big money and guarantee the clubs better draft returns

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl...e-key-pre-agents-of-2019-20190326-p517m8.html

Obviously, the majority of these players will remain with their clubs and some might be re-contracted during 2019. But, based on what happened last year and the shifting landscape of trades, there's also a genuine chance that some pre-agents will be traded to a new home 12 months before they're free to exercise their rights as free agents, 12 months before their clubs would gain a compensation draft pick.

Here's a hypothetical: St Kilda, desperate to improve and with oodles of space in their salary cap, offer Whitfield (certain to attract suitors dangling millions and a kind-of local from Mount Martha) a long-term deal at more than $1 million a season, bearing in mind that he would immediately become their premier player.

GWS re-sign Coniglio and Josh Kelly this year - as seems more likely than not - further cramping their salary cap. They can't afford to pay Whitfield AND Cameron at those kind of rates.

The Saints have, say, pick No. 2 in the national draft. If GWS lose Whitfield as a free agent in 2020, they will receive only a pick in the teens (given they'll likely play finals). So, a mutual decision is reached this year - Whitfield will be traded, as Shiel was, 12 months ahead of his free agency period, for pick No. 2 and maybe even another late choice."

Not a new idea, and there is also the choice that you can get :
Fergus Watts ( Pick 17)
Barry Brooks
Jonathan O'Rourke
Tom Boyd
Even Scully, you really have to question if he was worth it for GWS.

 

[The_Snake26]

I think we throw a godfather offer at coniglio. Like $1.5m+
He’s a star, goal kicking ready made 25 year old midfielder. Exactly the player we need

 

[Mikka84]

I think we throw a godfather offer at coniglio. Like $1.5m+
He’s a star, goal kicking ready made 25 year old midfielder. Exactly the player we need

He’s take 800k to go to West Coast or Hawthorn I’m afraid. His IP there would be worth triple anything we can offer at this stage..

 

[saint66au]

We dont pull big crowds, we dont play at the G, and we are quite likely to have to start a new rebuild at seasons end.

Explain to me again how we steal A list midfielders from other Clubs, give that weve now proven "piles of money" doesnt do the trick.

 

[Verdun66]

Seem to remember Chris Mayne being a figure of fun in here a couple of years ago. Playing ok. Took him a year to come good. We don't even let ours play before baking them....

 

[CaptainRisky]

Seem to remember Chris Mayne being a figure of fun in here a couple of years ago. Playing ok. Took him a year to come good. We don't even let ours play before baking them....

Not Sure Mayne was injured or had the same social life as our lad , but lets see how Hanners goes before we put the screen up around him

 

[Verdun66]

Not Sure Mayne was injured or had the same social life as our lad , but lets see how Hanners goes before we put the screen up around him

Allegedly......

 

[CaptainRisky]

Allegedly......

So you dont believe any of the stuff said is true , im not say all of it but some of it , Your one trusting person

 

[Verdun66]

So you dont believe any of the stuff said is true , im not say all of it but some of it , Your one trusting person

There are a myriad of rumours in that section. Seems to be a Collingwood one today. I neither believe or disbelieve until there is proof. Not a matter of being trusting. And if true there is always redemption. That’s how it seems to work.

 

[RWBlyf]

 

[Groater]

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[Saintbloke]

We seem to be signing players who can't for various injury issues, get on the track and haven't really made an impact. If we start winning games, show clear improvement, then we might have a slight chance of snaring a ready to go bigger name.

 

[Ricmel]

Doubtful they will still be 1/2 at the end of the year. Players get injuries, play poorly and other players can get better. I can't think of a player who was touted as no.1 at the start of their draft year being selected at no.1. But, i have a crap memory.

You could be right but Anderson has pretty well been 1 or 2 in this age group for the past 3 years. 25 and 4 goals last weekend put him back at 1. Pretty sure Saints is his preferred club too.

 

[Ricmel]

We seem to be signing players who can't for various injury issues, get on the track and haven't really made an impact. If we start winning games, show clear improvement, then we might have a slight chance of snaring a ready to go bigger name.

I call our drafting/recruitment strategy "fingers crossed".

McCartin - Diabetes
Freeman - Hammies
Hannebury - Cooked (burnt)
Jack Bytel - chronic back
Max King - Knee

 

[Sir Skid]

Curious..
So when Matty Parker plays 100 games for us will Saints be able to pick up his current son as a FS?
Srs question.

 

[Dr Spaceman]

Curious..
So when Matty Parker plays 100 games for us will Siants be able to pick up his current son as a FS?
Srs question.

You would have to think so.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

I call our drafting/recruitment strategy "fingers crossed".

McCartin - Diabetes
Freeman - Hammies
Hannebury - Cooked (burnt)
Jack Bytel - chronic back
Max King - Knee

I love some of the improvised medical conditions you have there

What's wrong with me Doc? Well ...I'm afraid you're cooked.

 

[saintbatty]

Curious..
So when Matty Parker plays 100 games for us will Siants be able to pick up his current son as a FS?
Srs question.

Yes

 

[Sir Skid]

Yes

Awesome. 99 to go and counting!

 

[Drake Huggins]

Curious..
So when Matty Parker plays 100 games for us will Saints be able to pick up his current son as a FS?
Srs question.

Why wouldn't we be able to take him? Does paternity have to be proven genetically? Can an adopted boy qualify? I've often wondered if there had been a lot of Barks' kids running around the suburban leagues in the 90's and 00's given the great man's prolific strike rate with the opposite sex.

A kid who played with my son throughout juniors was nicknamed "plugger", not just because he was a big lump of a kid and could play a bit. His mum was a well known, self-confessed saints' groupie in the eighties and the rumour was Plugger was the actual father. The resemblance of the boy to a young Tony was uncanny. Added to this was the fact that she was very short in stature and dark in colouring and the "father" was jockey sized, but had been a decent suburban footballer.

Sadly the boy did an ACL in his draft year and didn't get picked. Even sadder, he got arrested for threatening and attempting to abduct an ex-girlfriend at gun point several years later.

 

[Keg on legs]

Why wouldn't we be able to take him? Does paternity have to be proven genetically? Can an adopted boy qualify? I've often wondered if there had been a lot of Barks' kids running around the suburban leagues in the 90's and 00's given the great man's prolific strike rate with the opposite sex.

A kid who played with my son throughout juniors was nicknamed "plugger", not just because he was a big lump of a kid and could play a bit. His mum was a well known, self-confessed saints' groupie in the eighties and the rumour was Plugger was the actual father. The resemblance of the boy to a young Tony was uncanny. Added to this was the fact that she was very short in stature and dark in colouring and the "father" was jockey sized, but had been a decent suburban footballer.

Sadly the boy did an ACL in his draft year and didn't get picked. Even sadder, he got arrested for threatening and attempting to abduct an ex-girlfriend at gun point several years later.

Interesting concept.

Hypothetically- a 200 game star from one club has a fling with the wife of a 200 game opposition player

18 years later a draftee finds out he is the result of that fling.

Would he have his choice of 2 clubs under father / son????