Preview OFFICIAL PREVIEW AFL ROUND 17 - Brisbane Lions v Essendon Sunday July 10th 1.20pm @ the GABBA

[CarterS]

No suspension thank god - fine only - AFL Tonight

The fact that it's even a fine is poor - to me it's down to poor positioning by the umpire.

 

[3KZ is Football]

Hipwood cleared to play gets - $2,500 fine. He is very unlucky.

 

[martinson]

No suspension thank god - fine only - AFL Tonight

What irks me is the cost and inconvenience to all involved having to go through this sham process.

Will they ever get rid of Christian ?

 

[3KZ is Football]

In- Cockatoo, E.Smith, Wilmot
Out- Zorko, Rich

B Starcevich Andrews Wilmot
HB K.Coleman Adams Answerth
C J.Berry Lyons Prior
HF Bailey McStay McCarthy
F Hipwood Daniher Cameron
FOLL- Omac Mcluaggage Neale
I/C- Payne, Ah’Chee, Cockatoo, Tunstill
Sub: E.Smith

Lester?

 

[Tom14]

The outcome it should have been on Friday - instead wasting everyones time tonight. Afl #content machine undefeated.

 

[McIvor]

What irks me is the cost and inconvenience to all involved having to go through this sham process.

Will they ever get rid of Christian ?

Watch Robbo have a meltdown on 360 soon- he was gunning for Hippy being suspeded last night

 

[3KZ is Football]

The outcome it should have been on Friday - instead wasting everyones time tonight. Afl #content machine undefeated.

Robbo was calling for a suspension and public flogging last night on Fox. Faux outrage. Idiot.

 

[3KZ is Football]

Watch Robbo have a meltdown on 360 soon- he was gunning for Hippy being suspeded last night

Jinx

 

[CarterS]

AFL judged it to be a 2 match ban according to their arguments? Sounds like it's a devils advocate situation.

"The AFL argues Hipwood intentionally pushed Gardner into the umpire." (Fox Sports)

This conclusion is simply not possible if you've seen the end to end camera footage.

 

[martinson]

What's the 2.5k for ? If he intended it it should be 6 weeks . If it's accidental then it's accidental . There can't be any duty of care if he didn't know or if it was unforeseeable that the umpire and/or his opponent would position themselves the way they did .

What's his crime ? If his opponent crosses his path is he meant to stop at full pace and just let the guy cut him off ?

2.5K for the AFL to say we got to the bottom of it.

 

[Lets Roar like '44]

So when does the umpire have to pay the fine for getting in the way?

 

[PertRoosOsborne]

Cue the AFL appeal

 

[CarterS]

What's the 2.5k for ? If he intended it it should be 6 weeks . If it's accidental then it's accidental . There can't be any duty of care if he didn't know or if it was unforeseeable that the umpire and/or his opponent would position themselves the way they did .

What's his crime ? If his opponent crosses his path is he meant to stop at full pace and just let the guy cut him off ?

2.5K for the AFL to say we got to the bottom of it.

Judged to be careless - scale was either accidental, careless or reckless.

 

[Lets Roar like '44]

What's the 2.5k for ? If he intended it it should be 6 weeks . If it's accidental then it's accidental . There can't be any duty of care if he didn't know or if it was unforeseeable that the umpire and/or his opponent would position themselves the way they did .

What's his crime ? If his opponent crosses his path is he meant to stop at full pace and just let the guy cut him off ?

2.5K for the AFL to say we got to the bottom of it.

The ol your guilty but…..not really that guilty

 

[M Malice]

What's the 2.5k for ? If he intended it it should be 6 weeks . If it's accidental then it's accidental . There can't be any duty of care if he didn't know or if it was unforeseeable that the umpire and/or his opponent would position themselves the way they did .

What's his crime ? If his opponent crosses his path is he meant to stop at full pace and just let the guy cut him off ?

2.5K for the AFL to say we got to the bottom of it.

They probably determined it was careless.

 

[McIvor]

Nice to see Brisbane lass Isabella Leembruggen hosting AFL Tonight to. Didnt recognise her at first but some friends of ours are really close to her dad, Don - a managing partner of a Brisbane based law firm which I believe has expanded. Good to see a Brissie girl getting a go hosting an AFL program.

 

[FLVanLandingham]

good outcome.

you don't like to see it, but not sure if it really warranted weeks.

the big hullabaloo hopefully will make sure no one else does it? i guess.

Viewed from certain angles this incident looks quite troubling, as it appears that Hipwood intended to push Gardner into the umpire.

However, on viewing the footage from behind the goals and hearing the evidence from Hipwood, the circumstances were very different to what they first seemed.

It is now clear to us that Hipwood was simply running towards goal when his opponent, who was running beside him, deviated and all but stopped in Hipwood's path, blocking his run. Hipwood reacted by pushing his opponent, who collided with the umpire.

However, we find that Hipwood ought to have been aware that an umpire was in close vicinity, as he and his opponent were running at speed, he ought to have been aware that the umpire was vulnerable to a high speed collision. In those circumstances, he breached his duty of care by forcefully pushing his opponent into the umpire.

He did have an alternative, he need not have pushed his opponent. He did more than brace for contact. As a result, we find Hipwood was careless.

It was however a reaction and not his action alone that caused the incident and we do not regard the level of carelessness as high. We do not propose to impose a suspension, we have in mind imposing a fine of $2,500.

 

[martinson]

Judged to be careless - scale was either accidental, careless or reckless.

No sane person would say that was careless.

I suppose next it's going to be careless to run onto the field.

 

[knaf]

why wasn’t Gardner charged? More his fault than Hippy.

 

[McIvor]

What's the 2.5k for ? If he intended it it should be 6 weeks . If it's accidental then it's accidental . There can't be any duty of care if he didn't know or if it was unforeseeable that the umpire and/or his opponent would position themselves the way they did .

What's his crime ? If his opponent crosses his path is he meant to stop at full pace and just let the guy cut him off ?

2.5K for the AFL to say we got to the bottom of it.

Ridiculous isnt it? The club should pass the hat around and everyone should chip in. And even more, the money should then be donated to a worthy cause instead of the AFL's cofferes.

 

[Elixuh]

Eric doesn’t miss any games, so whatever.

Thought it should have been accidental. But irrelevant really.

 

[CarterS]

 

[McIvor]

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Even more the reason why the Dogs player should also have been found equally culpable.

 

[Jarryd Lyons Burner]

The thread has convinced me on Nakia for this week. If he’s able to play some solid midfield minutes I think he has the best chance to fill the gap we need… though I would love if Terry/Dev were given a crack in there against a lower Essendon too.

Glad Eric has been cleared. Don’t understand the logic behind the fine really, but I guess it suits their “zero tolerance” towards umpires narrative…

 

[Jarryd Lyons Burner]

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Was it careless though, if deemed unintentional?

I think it’s unreasonable to assume a player should know where the umpire is standing at all times.