Roast The Non Goal: F*** the AFL, court injunction?

[Coopers]

Why do we care about those things?

What else are we getting out of the season?

 

[Gtowncrow]

Obviously you don’t want idiots being idiotic

However… the umpire made a mistake. Calling it a poster was inexplicable given his positioning and implicit lack of certainty (given he was so very clearly wrong, he can’t have had much certainty).

Saying it hit the post was a mistake

Not sending it for review was pure arrogance.

In a position of great responsibility perverting the result through arrogance is always going to bring heat and scrutiny

no one is saying people can’t make mistakes, but there is going to be blow back from arrogance.

It comes with the office

Well said...

 

[imagifED]

Unsure how to feel atm. I believe the goal umpire made an honest mistake in a moment he didn't have 100% vision and clarity with so many things going around him. He was probably in autopilot mode and forgot he had the option to review. No malice involved, we are simply unfortunate. Standing him down for the rest of the season is the correct decision as there should be consequence and to take him out of the spotlight. Probably should reprieve him considering mental health.

Feel it could almost be more beneficial to be moral winners/finalists with serious compensation as there are no guarantees we would have won with 70 seconds left or make finals. Knowing us, I would still back Sydney and GWS to win on the last Sunday had we won last night.

 

[FR0GGY]

What else are we getting out of the season?

Apologies

 

[Shuestar13]

We should get three wishes.

Mine would be

1. Draft pick number 1
2. Draft pick number 2
3. Port‘s licence revoked


Then, and only then, am I prepared to let this go.

I’m more than happy for you guys to get Pick 1 now. Wouldn’t have been this morning I certainly do like Number 3, if we are talking Number 4 for another licence to be revoked I’ve got a couple of suggestions

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

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What else are we getting out of the season?

I'm more interested in getting compensation that improve our chances for next season.

Easy for the AFL & their FIXture...

 

[Magma]

Why do people think you can't be held accountable if something is a 'mistake'?

you can be, and he might be, but i dont believe he should lose his job. thats not up to me anyway

 

[Hobbes]

The only possible outcome (which just wouldn't make sense anyway) is to award both the 4 pts. This would be appealed by literally everyone and they would be back to a soz from the AFL.

Awarding both teams the win substantially reduces the chance that Adelaide qualify - denying Sydney the points matters.

 

[Southerntakeover]

you can be, and he might be, but i dont believe he should lose his job. thats not up to me anyway

Making an incorrect decision isn't sackable.

Not calling a review when you're that wrong, at that point of the game, at that point of the season?

I think that might be.

 

[imagifED]

 

[jenny61_99]

Unsure how to feel atm. I believe the goal umpire made an honest mistake in a moment he didn't have 100% vision and clarity with so many things going around him. He was probably in autopilot mode and forgot he had the option to review. No malice involved, we are simply unfortunate. Standing him down for the rest of the season is the correct decision as there should be consequence and to take him out of the spotlight. Probably should reprieve him considering mental health.

Feel it could almost be more beneficial to be moral winners/finalists with serious compensation as there are no guarantees we would have won with 70 seconds left or make finals. Knowing us, I would still back Sydney and GWS to win on the last Sunday had we won last night.

Final quarter - 12 scoring shots to us. Just the one (point) to them. We had absolute full momentum for the entire quarter. Coming from 44 points down, Keays kicked an absolute corker of a goal that saw us win (had it been allowed) with just a minute to go against a pumped up home crowd. No way we lose from there.

 

[jackster83]

Making an incorrect decision isn't sackable.

Not calling a review when you're that wrong, at that point of the game, at that point of the season?

I think that might be.

100%

It's either arrogance or gross negligence.

 

[jenny61_99]

Unsure how to feel atm. I believe the goal umpire made an honest mistake in a moment he didn't have 100% vision and clarity with so many things going around him. He was probably in autopilot mode and forgot he had the option to review. No malice involved, we are simply unfortunate. Standing him down for the rest of the season is the correct decision as there should be consequence and to take him out of the spotlight. Probably should reprieve him considering mental health.

Feel it could almost be more beneficial to be moral winners/finalists with serious compensation as there are no guarantees we would have won with 70 seconds left or make finals. Knowing us, I would still back Sydney and GWS to win on the last Sunday had we won last night.

Final quarter - 12 scoring shots to us. Just the one (point) to them. We had absolute full momentum for the entire quarter. Coming from 44 points down, Keays kicked an absolute corker of a goal that saw us win (had it been allowed)with just a minute to go against a pumped up home crowd. No way we lose from there.

 

[Gtowncrow]

Its a hard game to umpire, there's mistakes every game. Thing that bothers me as how many times has this conversation come up that the games are not equipped well enough to make these decisions!

What bothers me is an individual who had equipment at his disposal but instead chose to be a big headed hero!!!!

 

[Slippery Pete]

I admit to never having watched WWE or playing video games.

I do spend too much time on the internet though

Doing what?

 

[CrowToon]

Awarding both teams the win substantially reduces the chance that Adelaide qualify - denying Sydney the points matters.

Oh I wasnt trying to make the situation better for us. It was never going to change, I was just pointing out that even if the AFL wanted to give Adelaide points, Sydney would easily challenge it with the minute left.

 

[CrowToon]

you can be, and he might be, but i dont believe he should lose his job. thats not up to me anyway

He is local to SA no? I wouldn't recommend, for his own mental health, giving him Crows games next season so he can expect his income from this caper to halve. Maybe he has thick skin. He will need it.

 

[jo172]

Doing what?

Hoping no one from the real world finds me here

 

[CrowBloke]

I think the lesson for the guy here is to review.

Very good post. Yes, review was necessary.
There will be many more reviews after this, I reckon.

He obviously didnt see it otherwise he would have paid a goal. So somethings not right and i can only assume he guessed by the sounds the swans players made climbing all over the padding.

He was not in a good position, over a metre back from the goal post (wrong angle; he should have been in line with the ball curling in, more to his Right). From his position error-of-parallax would have deceived him.

I dont envy his position but he assumed something happened and has paid full price for an assumption rather then using all the tools available at his disposal.

He was very quick to signal the point, which suggests he was certain.
It's a bad mistake, still.

Do I feel sorry for him? I don't know, he shortcutted the decision process for a guess. Was he trying to impress the umpiring directors? was there a secret meeting where the AFL want goal umpires to back there judgement more?

That's reasonable speculation.

I think all goals and points should be score reviewed and the process should be in place for the tv umpire to stop play and review a score if they feel the goal umpire has made a howler when they have gone rogue away from the tech.

Maybe not all. Many/most do not need checking.
Posters above have suggested that the Captain have a review option. Needs detail, but worth looking at.

 

[FR0GGY]

He is local to SA no? I wouldn't recommend, for his own mental health, giving him Crows games next season so he can expect his income from this caper to halve. Maybe he has thick skin. He will need it.

He could become a cult hero at port games.

 

[Apsaalooke]

Making an incorrect decision isn't sackable.

Not calling a review when you're that wrong, at that point of the game, at that point of the season?

I think that might be.

Exactly. He’ll never live this down so should go before he’s pushed. It’s not as if goal umpire is a dream job every kid aspires too. The world will be a better place

 

[Brenton Davy]

Sydney win it from 8th...

With a massive

 

[CrowToon]

He could become a cult hero at port games.

Great. Then he'd be out of a job entirely due to the perceived bias.

 

[terrybull]

"I just want to know his mental state is holding up."
Your mate doesn't deserve to be lynched or feel fearful for his safety. I'm never going to advocate any vigilante actions or threats. That stuff is not on whatsoever.

But your mate needs to understand how many people HE HAS HURT.

His utter ineptitude has affected the mental well being of more than half the state of South Australia. How many kids cried after that result last night? How many adults did he inflict fury into? How many hearts has he broken in a single foul decision. There are hundreds of thousands of people within our state and beyond who have ridden the bumpiest of rebuilding roads over the past 5 years. This has been a messy and major club rebuild. People lost careers and reputations dashed in perpetuity. Not just the playing group but all the club. We have suffered for our past mistakes as a club but we agreed to hold our heads high and accept we needed a complete reset. And all that hurt us greatly!!!! Even this year, we struggled to control our new and hard earned competitiveness. But we fought the perils of inconsistency and dared our pain into becoming less. There was genuine light for our club and state that we might be towards the other side of despair. Our hope, for what it was, has been torn from us by your mate.

"And that would've been long before he got told his season was over."
In any career, there are boundaries where, if crossed, result in instant dismissal. The living consequences to so many people and the financial consequences to the club, make his error inexcusable. His career is irretrievable. Who would allow this chump to ever adjudicate their sport at any level again? The AFL? SANFL? A minor country league? No way!! This guy will only ever be "that guy who F###ed up the integrity of the 2023 AFL finals series". His season is not over; his career is over! I'm very pleased if this is the result as his defiance of the ARC system suggests a character who saw himself as above it. Drugs are bad Mackay got it right earlier. The system will not miss his self importance.

As I started with, I wish no physical harm to your friend. But I cannot, and will not, place his well being above that of HIS "victims" of his umpiring crime.

also put a damper on the last round excitement , which affects everybody including the AFL.
Adelaide, Sydney or GWS in the Finals would be exiting, but now there is a big risk the very out of form Bulldogs making it, making the finals poorer.

 

[SugarShane]

He obviously didnt see it otherwise he would have paid a goal.

That's the thing. I'm seeing and hearing "convinced it hit the post because he heard a noise". Well does the campaigner have eyes?

That vision from the cheer squad shows an even bigger gap between ball and post than we thought. It was a big bender of a kick, and it was following the perfect arc, from that angle you can tell a few metres out it's probably going to make it. You could not physically see that ball from that angle and consider it hitting the post (at least with any more than 10% certainty). He's given a batsman shouldering arms out because someone farted when the ball went past the batsman.

Just mind boggling that he thought he was going to be a hero with big balls not even sending it upstairs when the season is on the line, when he clearly hasn't even seen the ball! I bet he was already running commentary lines in his head "What a superstar goal umpire! Didn't even need the review, he's backed himself in and he's got it 100% right! Ya love to see it don't ya!"