List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets

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In other words, he's burnt his bridges here.

 

[maccamk]

Could be the off season of reunions.

Lake Grace reunion with Baker.

Rivers, Warner, Jackson and Sharp for the 2019 East Freo Colts.

Chasing the best WA boys from the 2019 WA u18 team make sense considering the quality of the draft and WA winning the cup for the first time in 10 years.




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[anchor man]

As long as we have all our guns signed sealed and delivered before the Devils come knocking on the door.And have recruited who we want by then.

 

[freoextra]

not sure why so many want Bolton - he is probably my least fave opposition player

Because he is a perfect replacement for Walters.

 

[Lach72]

 

[wakojako]

Would much rather prefer him than Baker.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

New player contract status of interest to follow. We want Bailey Smith

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Bailey Smith

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

signing with Hawks. Their top pick is too much to give up but might be open to splitting the pick. Could be an easy way to make sure we are picking from the real pointy end (if we dont get anyone too expensive)

 

[FreoGirl]

Would much rather prefer him than Baker.

any chance?

do we need any of these?

RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS​

Jarrod Berry (Brisbane)
Hugh McCluggage (Brisbane)
Andrew McGrath (Essendon)
Patrick Dangerfield (Geelong)
Ben Ainsworth (Gold Coast)
Blake Hardwick (Hawthorn)
Cam Zurhaar (North Melbourne)
Will Hayward (Sydney)
Tim English (Western Bulldogs)

 

[FreoGirl]

If he wants finals, and wants to come home, then Freo are the obvious choice

"Sick and tired of losing": Roos free agent's finals plea ahead of looming contract call

"I'm coming into my eighth year now, I don't wanna be at the bottom for the rest of my career."

www.zerohanger.com

 

[wakojako]

Would love Zurhaar. Who would he replace in our forwardline?

 

[pK75]

Would love Zurhaar. Who would he replace in our forwardline?

AA Bailey Banfield

 

[FreoGirl]

AA Bailey Banfield

Nooooooo

 

[malpaso]

any chance?

do we need any of these?

RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS​

Jarrod Berry (Brisbane)
Hugh McCluggage (Brisbane)
Andrew McGrath (Essendon)
Patrick Dangerfield (Geelong)
Ben Ainsworth (Gold Coast)
Blake Hardwick (Hawthorn)
Cam Zurhaar (North Melbourne)
Will Hayward (Sydney)
Tim English (Western Bulldogs)

I like Hayward and McCluggage, maybe Zurhaar (but think he's overrated, lot of huff and puff)

 

[FreoGirl]

I like Hayward and McCluggage, maybe Zurhaar (but think he's overrated, lot of huff and puff)

would we call him Mc LUGGAGE if he played for us?

 

[Joao]

The Suitcase would be a great get. Arguably our weakest position on the ground is outside mids (probably not arguable, tbh).

Wonder what we'd have to give to get him to say yes?

 

[Dockeroo]

I agree with you, but we've time and time again that we're spineless.

I think we should keep Wallsy as the list manager but hire Dodo to do all our negotiations (and nothing else).

Andrew Mackie is the current biggest arsehole at the trade table when it comes to valuing players.
Not seen too many like him over the years.

 

[Dockeroo]

I'm trying to remember the last trade for Freo I discussed with reasonable posters on the other side and we either paid less than they thought they'd get for an out of contract player or we got more than they thought for our out of contract player.. Probably Neale funny enough but that just might be because it was so long ago.

Henry had Saints posters thinking pick in the 20s
Jackson (not Danny) they thought two firsts and sending some back
Langdon, the early 20s pick outright

We have a very clear trade philosophy.
In contract for us: TAKE THE ******* HOUSE!!!
All other scenarios: Please sir, be gentle <bats eye lids>

Anyone in or out of note I'm forgetting?

I thought we did well on Schultz. Always felt the Pies F1 was being undervalued by a lot of commentators

 

[Dockeroo]

Liam baker

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Liam Baker

Age

26

Ht

173cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.7

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

2.6

4star

MG

222.2

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.9

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

3star

MG

191.9

3star

D

14.4

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

1.8

4star

MG

224.2

4star

it appears isn’t the sexiest option in here maybe because he was a rookie pick and people still associative him with rookie list stigmas - cheap, flawed, why should we pay so much for him, etc etc.

Open your eyes and watch him play. Forget about where the * in the draft he was picked from.

He’s got the cleanest hands in the AFL. Lachie Neale

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Lachie Neale

Age

30

Ht

178cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

27.0

5star

K

11.5

4star

HB

15.5

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

3.7

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

28.3

5star

K

13.9

5star

HB

14.4

5star

M

4.6

4star

T

4.0

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

12.0

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

7.4

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

1.0

3star

CL

0.4

3star

levels.
A winner. A leader. A one percenters specialist. Durable and tough.
We would be very lucky to have him. At 26, you are probably buying 150 top end games for something like pick 19 or 20.
No brainer.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

I thought we did well on Schultz. Always felt the Pies F1 was being undervalued by a lot of commentators

Key being "contracted". We'll take the house if contracted, uncontracted, we literally ask for less than reasonable BF supporters on the other side think is fair. It's a little annoying.

If Schultz had have been out of contract we'd have taken just pick 34 I'm sure

 

[go_the_dockers]

I don't think it will be that late this year.

6 father son and academy players in top 20. Based on mock draft forum.

Depends on free agents really.

 

[go_the_dockers]

Liam baker it appears isn’t the sexiest option in here maybe because he was a rookie pick and people still associative him with rookie list stigmas - cheap, flawed, why should we pay so much for him, etc etc.

Open your eyes and watch him play. Forget about where the * in the draft he was picked from.

He’s got the cleanest hands in the AFL. Lachie Neale levels.
A winner. A leader. A one percenters specialist. Durable and tough.
We would be very lucky to have him. At 26, you are probably buying 150 top end games for something like pick 19 or 20.
No brainer.

Our midfield is already a bit small, and he would make it smaller.

Too me he doesn't have a natural role, maybe it is half forward but he is not a big goal kicker.


I think he would be a good narrow winger, but not sure we need that position.

The question is, is he a big enough upgrade to justify the cost both in picks and salary cap space?
Who does he push out of the 22?

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Liam baker it appears isn’t the sexiest option in here maybe because he was a rookie pick and people still associative him with rookie list stigmas - cheap, flawed, why should we pay so much for him, etc etc.

Open your eyes and watch him play. Forget about where the * in the draft he was picked from.

He’s got the cleanest hands in the AFL. Lachie Neale levels.
A winner. A leader. A one percenters specialist. Durable and tough.
We would be very lucky to have him. At 26, you are probably buying 150 top end games for something like pick 19 or 20.
No brainer.

As others have said, I dont think it's that simple. I think he makes us better, no doubt there, but I think there is a pretty limited ROI on the price. What do you think he'd cost salary and pick wise?

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

For mine, with the new contract values, I'd go like 600k and make it 5 years. 5 years is a lot but it gets a discount on the price, 600k sounds a lot but the new price increases are pretty nutty, that's like 450-500k today. According to Tigs supporters, he's on about that (600k) now.

Trade price, a pick in the 20s is fine by me, any higher and I start getting very uncomfortable.

I think those prices are under what he's worth on an open market but about what he's worth to us. The other options for him is to take more money but lose every week for at least 3 years at WC, stay in Melbourne or specifically stay at Tigers (and I think they are keen for him to move on really).

 

[Joao]

6 father son and academy players in top 20. Based on mock draft forum.

Depends on free agents really.

Early days with both. Draft orders change a bunch over the year. Also early days on Port's finishing position.

English is the only one likely to trigger band1 unless McCluggage actually leaves.

 

[go_the_dockers]

As others have said, I dont think it's that simple. I think he makes us better, no doubt there, but I think there is a pretty limited ROI on the price. What do you think he'd cost salary and pick wise?

Best case is saints 2nd round pick.
More than likely the port pick.

600 to 700k.

Is that better value than Zurhaar for our team, assuming same salary but no picks?