List Mgmt. 2025 Trade & List Management Thread - Part II [Spargo ✅ Maley->Adelaide✅]

giantroo · Sep 22, 2025

Player/Picks	Original Team	Receiving Team	FA /Trade?	Compo
Tom De Koning	Carlton	St Kilda	RFA	Round One selection (currently #10)
Jack Silvagni	Carlton	St Kilda	UFA	End of First Round selection (currently #22)
Jacob Wehr	GWS	Port Adelaide	UFA	No Compo
Sam Draper	Essendon	Brisbane	UFA	End of First Round selection (currently #21)
Charlie Spargo	Melbourne	North Melbourne	UFA	End of Round Two selection (currently pick #42)
James Worpel	Hawthorn	Geelong	RFA	End of Round Two selection (currently #43)
Liam Reidy	Fremantle	Carlton	Trade	CARL:Liam Reidy,R3(54),R4 (72) FRE: R3(51), R4(69)
Malcolm Rosas Jnr	Gold Coast	Sydney	Trade	GC: R3(52), R4(70) SYD: Malcolm Rosas Jnr, R3(63)
Sam Flanders	Gold Coast	St Kilda	Trade	GC: R1(7) STK: Sam Flanders
Judd McVee	Melbourne	Fremantle	Trade	MELB: R1(23) FRE: Judd McVee
Brandon Starcevich	Brisbane	West Coast	Trade	WC: Brandon Starcevich 4 Brandon Starcevich Age 26 Ht 188cm Wt 90kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 9.2 2 K 6.5 3 HB 2.6 2 M 2.8 3 T 2.0 4 MG 185.3 3 D 9.5 2 K 7.3 3 HB 2.3 2 M 3.6 4 T 2.1 3 MG 187.9 3 D 8.6 3 K 5.4 2 HB 3.2 3 M 1.4 2 T 1.8 4 MG 181.2 3 , R1(12), R2(33), R3(52) BRIS: R1(16) R1(22),R3(44),R3(50) FRE: R1(19), R2(23),R3(46)
Oscar Allen	West Coast	Brisbane	RFA	Round one selection (currently #2)
Liam Ryan	West Coast	St Kilda	Trade	WC: 2026 R2 Pick(Tied to STK) STK: Liam Ryan 31 Liam Ryan Age 29 Ht 181cm Wt 76kg Pos. Fwd Career Season Last 5 D 11.3 3 K 8.6 3 HB 2.7 2 M 3.0 3 T 2.0 4 G 1.3 5 D 9.9 3 K 8.0 3 HB 1.9 1 M 3.3 3 T 1.6 3 G 1.3 5 D 11.4 3 K 9.0 4 HB 2.4 3 M 3.8 4 T 1.8 4 G 1.6 5 , 2027 R3 Pick(tied to WCE)
Max Heath	St Kilda	Melbourne	Trade	STK: 2027 R4 Pick(tied to Melb) MEL: Max Heath
Brody Mihocek	Collingwood	Melbourne	Trade	MEL: Brody Mihocek 28 Brody Mihocek Age 32 Ht 192cm Wt 99kg Pos. Fwd Career Season Last 5 D 11.9 3 K 8.2 3 HB 3.7 3 M 5.3 5 T 2.0 4 G 1.6 5 D 8.4 2 K 6.3 3 HB 2.1 2 M 4.3 4 T 1.9 3 G 1.7 5 D 10.2 3 K 6.4 3 HB 3.8 3 M 4.6 5 T 1.8 4 G 1.6 5 , R4(71) COL: R3(61), 2026 R3 selection (tied to Melbourne)
Ben Ainsworth	Gold Coast	Carlton	Trade	CARL: Ben Ainsworth 12 Ben Ainsworth Age 27 Ht 178cm Wt 77kg Pos. Fwd Career Season Last 5 D 14.1 4 K 8.1 3 HB 6.1 4 M 3.5 4 T 2.7 4 G 0.7 4 D 12.8 3 K 8.3 3 HB 4.5 3 M 4.0 4 T 2.3 3 G 1.0 4 D 13.6 4 K 6.8 3 HB 6.8 5 M 3.8 4 T 3.4 5 G 0.6 3 GC: R2(29) via Port
Corey Durdin	Carlton	Port Adelaide	Trade	PORT: Corey Durdin, 2026 R2(tied to Carlton) CARL: R4(67)(via Port)
Campbell Chesser	West Coast	Carlton	Trade	WC: R2(41) CARL: Campbell Chesser
Tylar Young	Richmond	West Coast	Trade	WC: Tylar Young RIC: R2(38)
Pick Swap	GWS	Western Bulldogs	Trade	WB: R1(14) & R2(37) GWS: R1(12)
Will Brodie	Fremantle	Port Adelaide	Trade	PORT: Will Brodie 23 Will Brodie Age 27 Ht 190cm Wt 89kg Pos. Mid Career Season Last 5 D 19.0 5 K 8.2 3 HB 10.8 5 M 3.1 3 T 4.9 5 CL 4.1 5 D 14.0 3 K 4.0 1 HB 10.0 5 M 3.0 3 T 1.0 2 CL 3.0 4 D 13.8 4 K 7.4 3 HB 6.4 4 M 3.2 4 T 5.4 5 CL 2.8 5 FRE: R6(103)
Pick Swap	Collingwood	Brisbane	Trade	COL: R3 (45,56) BRIS: R3(59), 2026 R3 Pick(Tied to Melbourne)
Connor Budarick	Gold Coast	Western Bulldogs	Trade	WB: Connor Budarick 19 Connor Budarick Age 24 Ht 175cm Wt 75kg Pos. D/M Career Season Last 5 D 10.6 3 K 6.8 3 HB 3.9 3 M 2.9 3 T 1.5 3 MG 171.3 3 D 10.6 3 K 6.8 3 HB 3.9 3 M 2.9 3 T 1.5 2 MG 171.3 3 D 10.6 3 K 6.8 3 HB 3.8 3 M 2.6 3 T 2.0 4 MG 153.0 3 , R4 (70) GC: R2(37)
Jayden Laverde	Essendon	GWS	DFA	No Compo
Brayden Fiorini	Gold Coast	Essendon	Trade	ESS: Brayden Fiorini 8 Brayden Fiorini Age 28 Ht 187cm Wt 82kg Pos. Mid Career Season Last 5 D 22.9 5 K 13.9 5 HB 9.1 5 M 4.7 4 T 4.0 5 CL 2.9 4 D 16.3 4 K 11.0 4 HB 5.3 3 M 4.0 4 T 1.7 3 CL 0.7 3 D 21.2 5 K 10.2 4 HB 11.0 5 M 4.6 5 T 4.2 5 CL 3.2 5 GC: 2026 R3 pick (tied to Essendon)
Ollie Florent	Sydney	Carlton	Trade	SYD: 2026 R3 (tied to Carl) CARL: Ollie Florent
Changkuoth Jiath	Hawthorn	Melbourne	Trade	MEL:Changkuoth Jiath 14 Changkuoth Jiath Age 26 Ht 185cm Wt 78kg Pos. D/M Career Season Last 5 D 14.5 4 K 5.0 2 HB 9.5 5 M 3.5 4 T 2.5 4 MG 91.0 1 No current season stats available D 14.5 4 K 5.0 2 HB 9.5 5 M 3.5 4 T 2.5 4 MG 91.0 2 HAW: R3 (42), 2026 R4 (tied to Melb)
Jai Serong	Hawthorn	Sydney	Trade	SYD: Jai Serong, 2026 R4(Tied to Hawthorn HAW: 2026 R3 pick(tied to Syd)
Pick Swap	Hawthorn	Carlton	Trade	CARL: R1(9), R2(31), R2(42), R3(43) HAW: R1(10), R1 (22)
Finnbar Maley	North Melbourne	Adelaide	Trade	NTH: R3(57), 2026 R4(tied to Adelaide) ADE: Finnbar Maley, R4(64)
Jamarra Ugle-Hagan	Western Bulldogs	Gold Coast	Trade	GC: Jamarra Ugle-Hagan WB: R6(74)
Jack Buller	Sydney	Collingwood	Trade	COLL: Jack Buller , 2026 F4 (tied to Syd) SYD: 2026 R3(tied to Coll)
Jack Steele	St Kilda	Melbourne	Trade	MEL: Jack Steele 9 Jack Steele Age 30 Ht 187cm Wt 90kg Pos. Mid Career Season Last 5 D 20.9 5 K 8.7 3 HB 12.2 5 M 3.7 4 T 6.8 5 CL 3.6 5 D 21.3 5 K 10.0 4 HB 11.3 5 M 4.0 4 T 5.8 5 CL 4.6 5 D 16.8 4 K 5.0 2 HB 11.8 5 M 2.6 3 T 6.4 5 CL 3.6 5 STK: 2027 R3 Pick
Clayton Oliver	Melbourne	GWS	Trade	GWS: Clayton Oliver 10 Clayton Oliver Age 28 Ht 189cm Wt 88kg Pos. Mid Career Season Last 5 D 27.8 5 K 9.5 4 HB 18.4 5 M 3.2 3 T 6.3 5 CL 6.3 5 D 25.1 5 K 11.1 4 HB 14.0 5 M 3.6 4 T 5.6 5 CL 5.9 5 D 19.2 5 K 4.6 2 HB 14.6 5 M 2.0 3 T 4.4 5 CL 3.8 5 MEL: 2027 R3 Pick (tied to GWS)
Patrick Retschko	Geelong	Richmond	Trade	RICH: Patrick Retshcko GEEL: R6 (99)
Christian Petracca	Melbourne	Gold Coast	Trade	MEL: R1(7,8) 2026 R1(tied to GC), R2 (37), 2027 R3(tied to Gold Coast) GC: Christian Petracca 3 Christian Petracca Age 29 Ht 187cm Wt 94kg Pos. M/F Career Season Last 5 D 19.4 5 K 9.5 4 HB 9.8 5 M 3.5 4 T 3.0 5 CL 2.5 4 D 24.4 5 K 10.4 4 HB 14.0 5 M 3.5 3 T 3.6 4 CL 3.4 4 D 19.0 5 K 7.8 3 HB 11.2 5 M 3.0 3 T 3.8 5 CL 2.0 4 , R2 (24,28), 2026 R2 pick(tied to Melbourne)
Charlie Curnow	Carlton	Sydney	Trade	CARL: Will Hayward 19 Will Hayward Age 27 Ht 186cm Wt 83kg Pos. Fwd Career Season Last 5 D 10.6 3 K 6.6 3 HB 4.0 3 M 3.4 3 T 2.8 4 G 1.1 4 D 9.0 2 K 4.3 2 HB 4.7 3 M 2.7 3 T 2.7 4 G 0.7 4 D 9.4 3 K 6.2 3 HB 3.2 3 M 2.6 3 T 3.4 5 G 1.4 5 , R1, 2026 R1, 2027 R1(tied to Sydney) SYD: Charlie Curnow 35 Charlie Curnow Age 28 Ht 194cm Wt 94kg Pos. Fwd Career Season Last 5 D 13.3 3 K 9.7 4 HB 3.6 3 M 5.3 5 T 2.2 4 G 1.3 5 No current season stats available D 10.8 3 K 6.4 3 HB 4.4 4 M 3.2 4 T 1.6 4 G 0.8 4 . R2(31), (42), 2027 R2 pick(Tied to Carlton)

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Jy Simpkin - Pies have registered interest in Jy
Rowan Marshall - requested a trade to Geelong
Devon Robertson - requests a trade to West Coast
Callum Ah Chee - requests a trade to Adelaide
Buku Khamis - requests a trade to Carlton
Wade Derksen - requests a trade to a Victorian Club

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The Dingrel · Oct 14, 2025

DrZaius said:
I wonder what Xander reckons De Goey is worth

Id hazard a guess, at "Jy plus a top 10 pick but north having traded out pick 3 in this year's draft for the largely untried Whitlock, would have significant work to do to satisfy Collingwood."

Makeshift Park · Oct 14, 2025

With Aleer out of the picture...

We have 38 contracted, including Spargo.

Assuming no cat b's, our maximum list size of 42 (senior + rookies).

Payne, Phillips, Harvey, Maley and Tucker are still OOC.

So one or two could still get a reprieve, depending on whether we count a rookie upgrade as one of our three mandatory draft inclusions.

Flawed Genius · Oct 14, 2025

This whole farce is way too long

The Dingrel · Oct 14, 2025

Petrie4PM said:
Hard to believe. Makes you think they got something else up their sleeve.

"We have 5 key defenders on our list and we'll back them in"......if not I'll go out on a limb and say its probably Sam Frost.

Petrie4PM · Oct 14, 2025

Makeshift Park said:
With Aleer out of the picture...

We have 38 contracted, including Spargo.

Assuming no cat b's, our maximum list size of 42 (senior + rookies).

Payne, Phillips, Harvey, Maley and Tucker are still OOC.

So one or two could still get a reprieve, depending on whether we count a rookie upgrade as one of our three mandatory draft inclusions.

I would be keen to keep Payne/Harvey. Maley would be a maybe. Tucker and Phillips are gone.

Blightys Barrel · Oct 14, 2025

King Corey said:
Wonder what put us off Aleer

It has to be on observed form in the match against the Giants and feedback from the playing group.

Darling (33 years old) dined out on Aleer for 9 touches and kicked 3.2 in 90% game time. Aleer racked up 5 touches in 89% game time.

Plenty of average backmen can look OK when you have the likes of Taylor, Himmelberg taking the other 2 talks. If we were not into him before the Ross Lyon double back flip, then kudos for us still not being into him after that.

BlueandWhiteinmyBlood · Oct 14, 2025

Passmore said:
Maybe a move up the draft order is still on the cards if clubs want our picks for players?

Maybe Crom? They don’t want to give their first for Ah Chee, they could give it to us for those two second rounders?

King Corey · Oct 14, 2025

Tas said:
I didn't mind getting Whitlock, we shouldn't have done the Daniels trade, then we could have got him with our 2nd round pick... or one of the other KPP prospects.

Yeh agree that's why I emphasised machinations not the specific talent identification of Whitlock himself.

perplexed · Oct 14, 2025

Tarryn Thomas cleared to be picked up as a DFA. Anyone going take him?

Sacked ex-Kangaroos midfielder cleared to return to AFL

Tarryn Thomas is eligible to be picked by an AFL club again

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Petrie4PM · Oct 14, 2025

I think brady is conjuring a sam frost move...

speedy · Oct 14, 2025

perplexed said:
Tarryn Thomas cleared to be picked up as a DFA. Anyone going take him?

Sacked ex-Kangaroos midfielder cleared to return to AFL

Tarryn Thomas is eligible to be picked by an AFL club again

www.afl.com.au

Didn’t Geelong ask the afl for that special rookie spot for him?

krakouers · Oct 14, 2025

King Corey said:
Much rather this conservative approach than the Daniel/Mattlock machinations of last year.

Nek minute...

Makeshift Park · Oct 14, 2025

Blightys Barrel said:
It has to be on observed form in the match against the Giants and feedback from the playing group.

Darling (33 years old) dined out on Aleer for 9 touches and kicked 3.2 in 90% game time. Aleer racked up 5 touches in 89% game time.

Plenty of average backmen can look OK when you have the likes of Taylor, Himmelberg taking the other 2 talks. If we were not into him before the Ross Lyon double back flip, then kudos for us still not being into him after that.

He's a superb athlete capable of great spoils but after several years in the system he still finds himself out of position a lot and his 1v1 work is poor.

Like you said, its possibly a different story if you have Taylor and Buckley locking down the opposition's biggest forward threats.

Passmore · Oct 14, 2025

King Corey said:
Wonder what put us off Aleer

Giant's valuation?
His contract request?
There was talk at one point that he really didn't want to leave GWS, just the St Kilda offer was too good to refuse
There's been mention of an ankle injury
We don't really rate him

I'd be curious.

krakouers · Oct 14, 2025

perplexed said:
Tarryn Thomas cleared to be picked up as a DFA. Anyone going take him?

Sacked ex-Kangaroos midfielder cleared to return to AFL

Tarryn Thomas is eligible to be picked by an AFL club again

www.afl.com.au

24 months out of AFL?

Hope he likes rookie wages

Passmore · Oct 14, 2025

Makeshift Park said:
With Aleer out of the picture...

We have 38 contracted, including Spargo.

Assuming no cat b's, our maximum list size of 42 (senior + rookies).

Payne, Phillips, Harvey, Maley and Tucker are still OOC.

So one or two could still get a reprieve, depending on whether we count a rookie upgrade as one of our three mandatory draft inclusions.

I think it's delaying the inevitable by 12 months for any of them if we keep them.

New_Roo · Oct 14, 2025

krakouers said:
24 months out of AFL?

Hope he likes rookie wages

still be better wages than he would get outside of footy!

The Dingrel · Oct 14, 2025

backtothedraft said:
Throw up some options for debate. Who would you have liked to us to have gotten and how would you have done it?

Its a good question. But realistically we're in the business of winning football matches. The problem is, we are so constrained by academies, father and sons, our own father/sons who choose to play for academies, constant shifting of rules (think sander's), and free agency and on top of that a "good citizen" culture. Now given we're bottom 4 forever and a day, we don't have a first round draft pick, and no-one (except Spargo bless him) wants to come, we either believe enough in the natural improvement and growth of our list (the captain doesn't) OR, we need to face reality and take chances on some of the players with riskier off field characters. JUH and Oliver in this trade period, Stengle in the past, and perhaps just perhaps Hollands in this one. Short conditional contracts, zero tolerance for f&%kwittery.

Kangaroos4eva · Oct 14, 2025

Aleer would have been nice, but I get the rationale of not picking him up.

giantroo · Oct 14, 2025

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north_lad · Oct 14, 2025

Roos1991 said:
I have been indifferent on Rawlings to date but if all we do to improve our list is bring Spargo in and potentially lose Simpkin, he needs to ** off. Derkson, Aleer, Fahey all available and would probably add value immediately. It sounds like all we've done is sit back and play with ourselves while other clubs make moves. We need some ***ing ambition here, there's just no sign of anything useful coming out of the list management function except for locking players away for long periods - that's only a quarter of the function - the others being talent identification, draft, list balance/and overall management and ****ing trade. I can't say any of those are travelling along acceptably. Despite the state of our list, we somehow are struggling for list spots. Despite no one being interested in Derkson since Dees pulled out and us having a legitimate need (Aleer to a lesser extent), we're an absolute dead fish during the trade period and got rid of our only leverage in a top 3 pick last year. What the * is going on? There's 5 posters in this BF forum who'd do a better job on a volunteer basis. **** me.

As many have mentioned before, just look at what we've brought in from other clubs over the past decade.

Off the top of my head: Williams, Hrovat, Polec, Pittard, Corr, Tucker, Logue, Fisher, Stephenson, Josh Walker, Alex Morgan, Hartung, Atu, Campbell all either off the list or still clogging it. For all of the shit Daniel cops (some of it justified, some of it excessive) he's actually been one of the better recruits of recent years.

I guarantee if we picked up any of the players you listed there'd be posters on here whining about them all of next year and given our recent record it would probably be for good reason. Our young players seem far more capable than anyone we've recruited from other teams so I'm happy to keep pursuing that instead of melting down because we didn't recruit Jai Serong or something

Jeremy Jordan · Oct 14, 2025

giantroo said:

“We will take one of the best players in the comp off your hands, and here, you can have this nice pile of Dog sh*t. Say thank you”

amaz199 · Oct 14, 2025

Hearing the Simpkin trade discussion is not getting anywhere. Be prepared for him to stay.

krakouers · Oct 14, 2025

New_Roo said:
still be better wages than he would get outside of footy!

I cannot be alone in wondering how low his bank account is getting

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