List Mgmt. 2025 List Management III 📃

[The Bighouse]

I really don't care who leaves or stays.
As long as the club has some warning to plan ahead, and we get well compensated with draft picks or players of need.

Not sure if we predicted losing Charlie, SOS and TDK in 1 off season, but the compo was pretty fair.

If Walsh is having itchy feet, then communicate that to the club.

Re:compo, FA is being discussed as being introduced after pick#10, so it could become a match & trade offer for the high-end FA’s to get value for the departed.

 

[ctwenty1]

A little concerned with the carefree nature and the growing of the locks, no idea what he’s thinking about his contract with the hippy vibe…

If his demeanour is anything like when he reappeared at the end of ‘25, I want to see that (bearing fitness/availability mind you) on display F/T. Game & player leadership in spades with some outstanding football. Good for player, team and club and wins will hopefully be a byproduct and re-signing.

 

[My Hat]

A little concerned with the carefree nature and the growing of the locks, no idea what he’s thinking about his contract with the hippy vibe…

It just sticks out because we're not used to it. Doesn't mean anything.

Cooper Lord has had the full mullet ever since he joined the list, but nobody thinks he lacks commitment or whatever because of his hair.

 

[The Blue Weirdo]

Re:compo, FA is being discussed as being introduced after pick#10, so it could become a match & trade offer for the high-end FA’s to get value for the departed.

That's 1 way of protecting the lower placed clubs, providing the high end free agents aren't being poached from these very clubs.

 

[The Bighouse]

It just sticks out because we're not used to it. Doesn't mean anything.

Cooper Lord has had the full mullet ever since he joined the list, but nobody thinks he lacks commitment or whatever because of his hair.

Was taking the p155…
Just means he’s got very poor taste in style!
Though I agree with Monty B on the sideburns!

 

[My Hat]

Was taking the p155…
Just means he’s got very poor taste in style!
Though I agree with Monty B on the sideburns!

Ha, fair enough!

 

[Dramoth]

But they aren't leaving for more money.

They are leaving for success and because we haven't given them enough reasons to stay.

It's hard to talk about loyalty to the jumper after Walsh himself took less money on his last contract to 'help keep the team together' then watched the club unceremoniously dump all our depth (and his mates) and end up with a thin and uncompetitive list. He's also watched the club sack a coach 6 months into his career, then the next one two years later, and we could well be onto a fourth at some point this year. The guy who drafted him, a club legend, got sacked 12 months later and hasn't been back to the club since. All of the players from his draft class have been delisted except for him. We have had two fitness guys in his time and sacked both. Even the President got sacked for putting his junk on social media. Meanwhile, he's seen the 'fans' line the player race to hurl abuse at players during a bad game on multiple occassions, seen the way they social media turns on stars like Docherty as soon as their form drops off (coming back from an ACL no less, but that didn't get him any slack). There's no loyalty at Carlton.

If, as seems likely, we drop further off the pace this year, sack another coach and head deeper into the draft, why would Walsh stay? He has been at the club 7 years so far, has never been in a team that won 14 games, and we are likely starting again with another coach and a bunch of young guys he barely knows?

If Geelong come knocking and offer him good money, a chance at success and a house and land package near Torquay, of course he will listen.

About the only thing we can offer other than actually playing some improved footy is the captaincy, which I guess isn't nothing.

TDK definitely left for the money. If someone comes to you and offers a base of 1.65m/year plus incentives you’re taking it. TDK could have done a Henderson and walked out on the club with a few games left, but he wanted his kids to play for Carlton, so he hit his 100. If the Saints offer had only been 100k off our offer to him, he would have stayed.

JSOS might be saying he left for more success, but honestly, he left for more money as well. The club offered him what he was worth. This was reflected in the offers from Collingwood and Footscray. They offered the same money and an extra year. Then the Aint’s rolled in and dropped more money on the table and he was off. If he truely loved Carlton like he claims, he would have signed off to stay at the club when Collingwood and Footscray tabled their offers. I reckon his old man told him to hold off re-signing and got gubby to put together a package and the rest is history.

Charlie is the only one who left for success. He didn’t care where he ended up so long as the club was pushing for success. And surprisingly he ended up at Sydney instead of Geelong. It’s going to be interesting for him chasing success at a club that’s starting to fade and has a coach who is only half as good as his predecessor. He ECO’d on the club back in May. And his manager was shopping him to Geelong. And Geelong couldn’t be bothered to put a serious offer for him on the table.

And then there is Durds. He didn’t want to leave either, but the club must have seen a touch of homesickness and wanting to be closer to his sister and facilitated that. We got Ben Ainsworth and pick 67, Port got Durdin and out 2026 second round pick and GCS got pick 29.

Out of the 4 players who left, the only two id be happy seeing back at the club in the future would be TDK and Durds. Anyone booing them should cop a slap to the back of the head. JSOS and Charlie… fill ya boots.

 

[Magruder]

TDK definitely left for the money. If someone comes to you and offers a base of 1.65m/year plus incentives you’re taking it. TDK could have done a Henderson and walked out on the club with a few games left, but he wanted his kids to play for Carlton, so he hit his 100. If the Saints offer had only been 100k off our offer to him, he would have stayed.

JSOS might be saying he left for more success, but honestly, he left for more money as well. The club offered him what he was worth. This was reflected in the offers from Collingwood and Footscray. They offered the same money and an extra year. Then the Aint’s rolled in and dropped more money on the table and he was off. If he truely loved Carlton like he claims, he would have signed off to stay at the club when Collingwood and Footscray tabled their offers. I reckon his old man told him to hold off re-signing and got gubby to put together a package and the rest is history.

Charlie is the only one who left for success. He didn’t care where he ended up so long as the club was pushing for success. And surprisingly he ended up at Sydney instead of Geelong. It’s going to be interesting for him chasing success at a club that’s starting to fade and has a coach who is only half as good as his predecessor. He ECO’d on the club back in May. And his manager was shopping him to Geelong. And Geelong couldn’t be bothered to put a serious offer for him on the table.

And then there is Durds. He didn’t want to leave either, but the club must have seen a touch of homesickness and wanting to be closer to his sister and facilitated that. We got Ben Ainsworth and pick 67, Port got Durdin and out 2026 second round pick and GCS got pick 29.

Out of the 4 players who left, the only two id be happy seeing back at the club in the future would be TDK and Durds. Anyone booing them should cop a slap to the back of the head. JSOS and Charlie… fill ya boots.

Although, ultimately they should all be welcome back as former players.

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

TDK definitely left for the money. If someone comes to you and offers a base of 1.65m/year plus incentives you’re taking it. TDK could have done a Henderson and walked out on the club with a few games left, but he wanted his kids to play for Carlton, so he hit his 100. If the Saints offer had only been 100k off our offer to him, he would have stayed.

JSOS might be saying he left for more success, but honestly, he left for more money as well. The club offered him what he was worth. This was reflected in the offers from Collingwood and Footscray. They offered the same money and an extra year. Then the Aint’s rolled in and dropped more money on the table and he was off. If he truely loved Carlton like he claims, he would have signed off to stay at the club when Collingwood and Footscray tabled their offers. I reckon his old man told him to hold off re-signing and got gubby to put together a package and the rest is history.

Charlie is the only one who left for success. He didn’t care where he ended up so long as the club was pushing for success. And surprisingly he ended up at Sydney instead of Geelong. It’s going to be interesting for him chasing success at a club that’s starting to fade and has a coach who is only half as good as his predecessor. He ECO’d on the club back in May. And his manager was shopping him to Geelong. And Geelong couldn’t be bothered to put a serious offer for him on the table.

And then there is Durds. He didn’t want to leave either, but the club must have seen a touch of homesickness and wanting to be closer to his sister and facilitated that. We got Ben Ainsworth and pick 67, Port got Durdin and out 2026 second round pick and GCS got pick 29.

Out of the 4 players who left, the only two id be happy seeing back at the club in the future would be TDK and Durds. Anyone booing them should cop a slap to the back of the head. JSOS and Charlie… fill ya boots.

For me TDK is fair game. It is no more noble leaving a club you apparently love for money than what it is to leave a club where you are unhappy.
Everyone has their own reasons, booing for me is just abit of fun anyway.
I’m one of the very few who seems to rate Durdin (to an extent) still so I would find booing him abit strange.

 

[Bamboo Harvester]

For me TDK is fair game. It is no more noble leaving a club you apparently love for money than what it is to leave a club where you are unhappy.
Everyone has their own reasons, booing for me is just abit of fun anyway.
I’m one of the very few who seems to rate Durdin (to an extent) still so I would find booing him abit strange.

Absolutely love Durds, and was sad when he got traded back to SA. Understandable though with his family situation.

I'll still be cheering for the little fella, and anyone giving him any stick when we play Port are bums

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

For me TDK is fair game. It is no more noble leaving a club you apparently love for money than what it is to leave a club where you are unhappy.
Everyone has their own reasons, booing for me is just abit of fun anyway.
I’m one of the very few who seems to rate Durdin (to an extent) still so I would find booing him abit strange.

TDK is one of the most over hyped players in AFL history....

 

[Dramoth]

TDK is one of the most over hyped players in AFL history....

The Aints are paying him on his potential and they are hoping that they can help him realise that potential. I'm putting money on Skull becoming a better ruckman than TDK.

 

[JustOneTime]

The Aints are paying him on his potential and they are hoping that they can help him realise that potential. I'm putting money on Skull becoming a better ruckman than TDK.

Wont be hard for him to beat TDK the forward. TDK never really produced forward at AFL level.

 

[NYCFC]

TDK is one of the most over hyped players in AFL history....

I never saw it myself. And I'm pretty sure that if didn't look like a taller Thor, he wouldn't get a tenth of the attention he does.

 

[CCurnow3picks]

The Aints are paying him on his potential and they are hoping that they can help him realise that potential. I'm putting money on Skull becoming a better ruckman than TDK.

At which point the ‘Ainters pay him 4m x 15 years to replace TDK

 

[HereComesJuddy]

For me TDK is fair game. It is no more noble leaving a club you apparently love for money than what it is to leave a club where you are unhappy.
Everyone has their own reasons, booing for me is just abit of fun anyway.
I’m one of the very few who seems to rate Durdin (to an extent) still so I would find booing him abit strange.

I can actually say I have never boo’d a player. But I can also say, I have boo’d this chump a plenty

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

The new ruck rules will help him.

I can actually say I have never boo’d a player. But I can also say, I have boo’d this chump a plenty

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Totally fair
I’ve never boo’d without a smile on my face

 

[Beyond Blue]

I can actually say I have never boo’d a player. But I can also say, I have boo’d this chump a plenty

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The 50 metre penalty he paid against Samo to gift the Eagles a goal when we were all over them in 2020 is forever etched in my memory.

If I’d been at the ground that day I reckon this umpire would have had something permanently etched his head forever from me.

 

[carlton_99]

The 50 metre penalty he paid against Samo to gift the Eagles a goal when we were all over them in 2020 is forever etched in my memory.

If I’d been at the ground that day I reckon this umpire would have had something permanently etched his head forever from me.

That whole game was a farce

 

[FitzroyBlueBagger]

That whole game was a farce

Close to the worst umpired game ever seen…

 

[katmanblue]

Although, ultimately they should all be welcome back as former players.

Well after they've retired

 

[agro]

That whole game was a farce

The game where Nathan Williamson earned the nickname “The Cheat”.

 

[agro]

The 50 metre penalty he paid against Samo to gift the Eagles a goal when we were all over them in 2020 is forever etched in my memory.

If I’d been at the ground that day I reckon this umpire would have had something permanently etched his head forever from me.

I don’t think SPS ever recovered from the drubbing he received from the umpires that day - he was never the same player again.

 

[BlueJet]

I never saw it myself. And I'm pretty sure that if didn't look like a taller Thor, he wouldn't get a tenth of the attention he does.

Same. He was lucky to beat his direct opponent most weeks, yet we had people speaking of him like he was on the cusp of being amongst the best players in the comp.
Not a great tap ruckman, he doesn't take a heap of marks, our stoppage game is often worse with him in there.. his strength was in channeling his inner Marc Murphy in terms of running forward of stoppage, which is a supplemental skillset for 6'7 ruck.

 

[juzza316]

The talking down of TDK is making him sound like the modern day Cain Ackland

Cain Ackland

Age

43

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.7

2star

K

4.9

2star

HB

3.8

3star

HO

11.7

5star

No current season stats available

D

4.2

1star

K

2.4

1star

HB

1.8

2star

HO

3.8

5star

. I think the new ruck rules and at a new club where his heart (and wallet) is invested will see him become one of the top rucks in the league.