AFL Player 20: Peter Wright - Club Leading Goalkicker!

[Lore]

Contract Status: Free Agent (?) 2027
My Boy Draft 2024: Pick 21, TheGrizz

 

[fairbump_playon]

Would 2MP get more recognition if we made better use of the drop zone area the opposition seemingly walk the ball out from?

that might give a better representation of him as a KPF

He would get more recognition if it was 1986

 

[ant555]

Would 2MP get more recognition if we made better use of the drop zone area the opposition seemingly walk the ball out from?

that might give a better representation of him as a KPF

I doubt it. It is not really the problem though. The issue is when he is not at his best he simply drops marks he should be taking.

 

[crackers65]

Would 2MP get more recognition if we made better use of the drop zone area the opposition seemingly walk the ball out from?

that might give a better representation of him as a KPF

He might if he didn’t get taken out of contests so easily. Smalls can’t get to the fall of the ball when he has no influence on at least 50% of contests. I think the suspension against Sydney has affected any physicality he had. He needs to regain this real quick or there just won’t be a spot for him.

 

[ALL IN]

No, that part is irrelevant to the statement.

No it’s not because he has no competitiveness or intent.

 

[eth-dog]

No it’s not because he has no competitiveness or intent.

Yes it is because slow key forwards aren't expected to be pressure players.

 

[P Money]

He might if he didn’t get taken out of contests so easily. Smalls can’t get to the fall of the ball when he has no influence on at least 50% of contests. I think the suspension against Sydney has affected any physicality he had. He needs to regain this real quick or there just won’t be a spot for him.

Is this true though? I agree with ant555 he drops too many marks that he should take, and I'd also agree he get pushed off the ball too easily, but to my eye he doesn't get taken out of the contest and outmarked. He brings the ball to ground more often than not, the issue is that a lot of those times he should be simply sticking the mark.

 

[EnolaGay]

Is this true though? I agree with ant555 he drops too many marks that he should take, and I'd also agree he get pushed off the ball too easily, but to my eye he doesn't get taken out of the contest and outmarked. He brings the ball to ground more often than not, the issue is that a lot of those times he should be simply sticking the mark.

I was going to say, isn't that his biggest criticism in that he doesn't hold his marks (and they go to ground)? He's not out marked that often.

 

[ALL IN]

Yes it is because slow key forwards aren't expected to be pressure players.

‘that can't impact contests consistently’
This has nothing to do with being a pressure player but is very relevant to the conversation

 

[eth-dog]

‘that can't impact contests consistently’
This has nothing to do with being a pressure player but is very relevant to the conversation

No, it doesn't.

The two things are mutually exclusive. One is a valid criticism. The other is irrelevant to the discussion.

It's like criticising a winger for having a 1:4 CP/UP ratio.

 

[ant555]

No, it doesn't.

The two things are mutually exclusive. One is a valid criticism. The other is irrelevant to the discussion.

It's like criticising a winger for having a 1:4 CP/UP ratio.

Well it is right to say it is unrealistic to complain he is not a pressure player. Very few KP size player are.
What you can say is he is very slow and often the guy he plays on does run off and get involved with the play going the other way. Not much he can do about it but it can be an issue. Happens to other big slow units.

 

[Vindicater]

No, it doesn't.

The two things are mutually exclusive. One is a valid criticism. The other is irrelevant to the discussion.

It's like criticising a winger for having a 1:4 CP/UP ratio.

The issue here is you are trying to argue for Wright on individual elements whereas I was trying to make it holistic.

Basically what I see.

Wright when "on" and clunking marks is a very good forward.
This happens rarely.
When "off" he is dropping marks and being pushed off his line too easily, thus making it easy for teams to counter him and then exploit him.

If his "on" games outnumbered or matched his "off"games this would be something worth living with.

But they don't in my eyes.

 

[Vindicater]

Also I will repeat I actually think he looks the most capable when playing full time ruck.

He loses the hitouts but does a lot of good around the ground. He also seems to have stickier mitts (probably due to him being in 1 on 1s more or floating in as an extra)

 

[fairbump_playon]

He might if he didn’t get taken out of contests so easily. Smalls can’t get to the fall of the ball when he has no influence on at least 50% of contests. I think the suspension against Sydney has affected any physicality he had. He needs to regain this real quick or there just won’t be a spot for him.

Tragic stuff

He actually competed and got rubbed out for it

 

[eth-dog]

The issue here is you are trying to argue for Wright on individual elements whereas I was trying to make it holistic.

Basically what I see.

Wright when "on" and clunking marks is a very good forward.
This happens rarely.
When "off" he is dropping marks and being pushed off his line too easily, thus making it easy for teams to counter him and then exploit him.

If his "on" games outnumbered or matched his "off"games this would be something worth living with.

But they don't in my eyes.

No, you're leveling criticism on him that isn't really justified.

Holistically he's an AFL standard key forward/ruck that brings the ball to ground when he doesn't mark it and generally kicks around the 1.5 goals/game.

He's never going to be good once the ball hits the ground and any criticism in that department is irrelevant in my eyes. Whilst he doesn't clunk as many marks as any of us would like, how often does he concede intercept marks? Rarely if ever.

If we had a competent small forward group (because the drop zone for him is very predictable) this whole pressure thing wouldn't be mentioned.

 

[Bombers36]

I like 2MP - feel like early rounds next year he will be required to spend a fair amount of time in the ruck - at least until Bryan is back

 

[Call Me Cake]

He also seems to have stickier mitts

You're joking right? The most butter fingers around

 

[fairbump_playon]

No, you're leveling criticism on him that isn't really justified.

Holistically he's an AFL standard key forward/ruck that brings the ball to ground when he doesn't mark it and generally kicks around the 1.5 goals/game.

He's never going to be good once the ball hits the ground and any criticism in that department is irrelevant in my eyes. Whilst he doesn't clunk as many marks as any of us would like, how often does he concede intercept marks? Rarely if ever.

If we had a competent small forward group (because the drop zone for him is very predictable) this whole pressure thing wouldn't be mentioned.

Disagree on pressure

Defending these days requires 18 players

If one gets off the hook there is overlap and easy transition.

Better small forwards would help but regardless, he’s not really made for these times

 

[Vindicater]

You're joking right? The most butter fingers around

I was saying he is better marking the ball around the ground than in the forward line.

Not that he has great marking skills.

 

[eth-dog]

Disagree on pressure

Defending these days requires 18 players

If one gets off the hook there is overlap and easy transition.

Better small forwards would help but regardless, he’s not really made for these times

Eric Hipwood is pretty shit pressure wise, as are Shannon Neale, Riley Thilthorpe and Dan McStay. Doesn't mean much. You can afford to have one poor pressure tall

 

[Vindicater]

Thilthorpe clunks marks and crashes packs.

Neale clunks marks.

Hipwood and McStay are at similar levels to Wright in my opinion and both teams won premier ships without them in the lineup.

 

[ant555]

The fact that Solly has been vocal in pushing him to command the footy more and compete says the are looking for some lift in intensity.

 

[blitzer]

I reckon Wright's 2025 was actually even better than his stat sheet. He actually had an unusually bad run of goal kicking accuracy by his standards. Normally he is much more accurate. He actually improved on some of his marking.

Now realistically at his age he won't be a star but he's a solid 2nd KPF/backup ruck for the next year or two until we find an upgrade. Far from our biggest problem and unlike most of the team can actually get on the park most weeks.

 

[EnolaGay]

Can't believe our former Crichton Medallist is getting so much bad juju from posters.

 

[P Money]

Thilthorpe clunks marks and crashes packs.

Neale clunks marks.

Hipwood and McStay are at similar levels to Wright in my opinion and both teams won premier ships without them in the lineup.

Brisbane also won a premiership with Hipwood and McStay would have been in the grand final team if he didn't get injured

 

[faible]

I reckon Wright's 2025 was actually even better than his stat sheet. He actually had an unusually bad run of goal kicking accuracy by his standards. Normally he is much more accurate. He actually improved on some of his marking.

Now realistically at his age he won't be a star but he's a solid 2nd KPF/backup ruck for the next year or two until we find an upgrade. Far from our biggest problem and unlike most of the team can actually get on the park most weeks.

I thought in the second half of the season he showed a little bit more physicality at a time when we needed a mature KPP to do it. Hopefully it's a bit of a turning point for him.