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[Cooldude]

So you've picked a side and automatically assume I've picked mine, despite saying geopolitics isn't something you should pick sides in?

Ok, here's my position.

Whilst I think it's a good thing Maduro's gone, forced regime change has proven to be disastrous in the past and there's no reasonable expectation that this time will be any different.

Regime change needs to come from within and for a country under a dictatorship such as Venezuela, that usually means civil war and 10s, if not 100s of thousands dead.

If(and it's a big IF) Venezuela can have a peaceful regime change and return to democracy then that would be a massive win but history indicates that's not the case.

It's why whilst I'd love to see Iran undergo a regime change also, I'd hate it to be as a result of foreign interference. It absolutely needs to come from within, so whilst it's great to see the euphoria of the Venezuelan people now that the dictator's gone, there needs to be genuine concern for what comes next because as I said earlier, history indicates it won't be good.

I hope Venezuela can buck the trend but I'm not expecting it to.

Bro you got a trip to the US coming up so you're trying to ramp up your social credit points just in case they check your internet history at the borders so you don't get detained?

 

[bzparkes]

You a real pussy huh, spent the entire thread spamming post justifying the coup but still think you can weasel out of it

Every time the US does some imperialism, there's always some 50 year old white boomer playing defense like he's the secretary of defense of the US but he lives in Australia.

Should've waited 4 minutes before posting bud.

So you've picked a side and automatically assume I've picked mine, despite saying geopolitics isn't something you should pick sides in?

Ok, here's my position.

Whilst I think it's a good thing Maduro's gone, forced regime change has proven to be disastrous in the past and there's no reasonable expectation that this time will be any different.

Regime change needs to come from within and for a country under a dictatorship such as Venezuela, that usually means civil war and 10s, if not 100s of thousands dead.

If(and it's a big IF) Venezuela can have a peaceful regime change and return to democracy then that would be a massive win but history indicates that's not the case.

It's why whilst I'd love to see Iran undergo a regime change also, I'd hate it to be as a result of foreign interference. It absolutely needs to come from within, so whilst it's great to see the euphoria of the Venezuelan people now that the dictator's gone, there needs to be genuine concern for what comes next because as I said earlier, history indicates it won't be good.

I hope Venezuela can buck the trend but I'm not expecting it to.

 

[Stan_Darsh72]

Of course not. Its not accurate.

BTW and for the record, I was vocally opposed to what the Obomber did, online and in RL.

But to claim he dropped more bombs than any other president is flat out wrong.

Would not shock me if it was FDR.

 

[bzparkes]

Bro you got a trip to the US coming up so you're trying to ramp up your social credit points just in case they check your internet history at the borders so you don't get detained?

This you?

 

[Cooldude]

This you?

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No, but I know you love running defense for pedos

 

[bzparkes]

No, but I know you love running defense for pedos

Ah I see. This has nothing to do with Venezuela and more to do with you hating Trump.

Time to move on.

 

[Hank Scorpion]

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When Diet Coke just won’t quench that thirst. One needs a full bodied viscous liquid to satiate the palate.

 

[pjcrows]

Yeah my bad, most bombs of any nobel peace winner.

So your big claims in this thread so far are:

1. This isn't really about oil.
2. Fentanyl trafficking in the US will reduce now.
3. People oppose Trump's bombing of Venezuela because it's Trump, but supported Obama's various bombings because it's Obama.
4. Obama dropped more bombs than during the Vietnam War.

All four assertions capitulated with minimal pushback.

You then said we all misunderstood your initial posts, and then posted something largely different as your "real opinion".

I mean, it'd be more impressive if you just held the line.

 

[ferball]

Yep and high-level ones get and put in solitary until they can rat out everyone else before usually being given a false identity and sent to retire on a beach somewhere.

Life isn't always fair but if you have to give up one to smoke them all out, that's what will happen.

You live in a fantasy world.

High level ones usually get killed in power struggles or, more often, retire wealthy. A much smaller percentage of them get busted.

Ultimately the system stays the same. Drugs that cost **** all to produce are kept illegal. This drives the price up to ridiculous levels and enables cartels to build their own private comms and transport networks while having the money to corrupt governments across the world.

 

[Cooldude]

Ah I see. This has nothing to do with Venezuela and more to do with you hating Trump.

Time to move on.

I see you love turning a blind eye to pedos but sure love running defense for unprovoked bombing and violence on another country. Chill out dude, Epstein's dead, Trump ain't gonna invite you to his **** parties just because he saw you playing white knight on the internet

Running a harder defense for bombings and coups but say nothing about child sex abuse, you a great dude, hope we keep the kids away from you

 

[pjcrows]

Should've waited 4 minutes before posting bud.

No, he followed the thread from this morning, read all of your rubbish, posted an accurate observation, then you backtracked and posted something quite reasonable but obviously not reflective of what you'd posted prior.

We can read.

 

[ferball]

Maybe not 'kidnap' but the USA, under his presidency, assisted in the regime change in Libya.

And that was a disgraceful disaster that resulted in open slave markets in Libya.

Qaddafi was far from perfect but he did drag Libya into the 20th century and built public, medical and educational infrastructure that improved the countries standard of living enormously.

 

[bzparkes]

I see you love turning a blind eye to pedos but sure love running defense for unprovoked bombing and violence on another country. Chill out dude, Epstein's dead, Trump ain't gonna invite you to his **** parties just because he saw you playing white knight on the internet

This is going to blow your fragile mind but I believe the Epstein files should be released in full, unredacted, and if Trump is implicated in any form of criminal activity in them(which we could fairly presume is true) then he should be immediately removed from the presidency and made to stand trial. His handling of the Epstein files is the biggest stain on his presidency thus far and it's not even close.

But in this line of conversation I'm discussing the current regime change in Venezuela, not the Epstein files, but considering you're seemingly conflating my opinion on Venezuela as me running defence for Trump over the Epstein files, I'll offer you this out to prevent you causing further embarrassment to yourself.

 

[bzparkes]

No, he followed the thread from this morning, read all of your rubbish, posted an accurate observation, then you backtracked and posted something quite reasonable but obviously not reflective of what you'd posted prior.

We can read.

I didn't backtrack whatever. I just offered my full opinion on the matter.

Previously I was merely commenting on others' individual comments.

Not sure why I'm even bothering to explain that tbh.

Anyway, back to the subject and not my posting history.

 

[GreyCrow]

Ok so you're fine with foreign countries issuing arrest warrants for those leaders who they deem to be working against their best interests?

Where did I say this? Stop making stuff up

1. I don't care if there is an arrest warrant. Have at it
2. You can only action the arrest warrant in the country it's issued.
3. If Maduro travels to the US then he is an idiot and can be arrested
4. You don't execute the warrant by kidnapping a Head of State from their own country

If Netanyahu has an arrest warrant and travels to a country that will action it then he is an idiot and should be arrested

 

[ferball]

I did ask bzparkes for a source for that claim, but I've not heard back from him.

Lets say Obama dropped 100,000 bombs (and missiles). That's probably an over estimation tho.

LBJ and Nixon dropped over 7M tonnes of bombs between them on SE Asia.

 

[Royces Hart]

Not sure what I did to piss off Pete Hegseth but I was left out of the Signal chat on this one.

Probably because you’re a fat beardo, sorry mate.

 

[bzparkes]

Where did I say this? Stop making stuff up

1. I don't care if there is an arrest warrant. Have at it
2. You can only action the arrest warrant in the country it's issued.
3. If Maduro travels to the US then he is an idiot and can be arrested
4. You don't execute the warrant by kidnapping a Head of State from their own country

If Netanyahu has an arrest warrant and travels to a country that will action it then he is an idiot and should be arrested

Fair enough.

Having said that, plenty of arrest warrants are enacted in foreign countries.

 

[ferball]

Bro you got a trip to the US coming up so you're trying to ramp up your social credit points just in case they check your internet history at the borders so you don't get detained?

Hey that's probably a fair enough strategy these days. Can't blame someone for that really.

 

[bzparkes]

I did ask bzparkes for a source for that claim, but I've not heard back from him.

Did you? Missed it sorry, everyone's quoting me.

Of course I've been corrected as wrong, which I accept.

He however certainly has dropped the most bombs/airstrikes/drones of any Nobel peace peace-prize winning president

 

[pjcrows]

Anyway, back to the subject and not my posting history.

"Don't bring up what I posted".

You literally just brought up everyone else's posting history

It's an internet discussion board - what you post matters. I mean, that's sort of how it works.

Anyway, happy to move on.

 

[ferball]

Would not shock me if it was FDR.

Nixon and LBJ. The bombing of Vietnam/Cambodia/Laos was just insane.

 

[bzparkes]

You live in a fantasy world.

High level ones usually get killed in power struggles or, more often, retire wealthy. A much smaller percentage of them get busted.

Yep, just like dictators, except most never get to retire.

Guess which box Mauro fits into?

Ultimately the system stays the same. Drugs that cost **** all to produce are kept illegal. This drives the price up to ridiculous levels and enables cartels to build their own private comms and transport networks while having the money to corrupt governments across the world.

Wouldn't surprise me if the Cartels are next.

 

[CarnTheScray]

Speak confidently about something you don’t really know anything about and then just say “my mistake I got it wrong, anyway…” when someone points it out.

Honestly that is the most American way to debate so I think you’ll be allowed through their borders with ease.

 

[bzparkes]

"Don't bring up what I posted".

You literally just brought up everyone else's posting history

It's an internet discussion board - what you post matters. I mean, that's sort of how it works.

Anyway, happy to move on.

Sure I did, a couple of times. Every response to me in the last couple of pages is just the same thing going around in circles, so we're moving on