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Thanks all.

 

[10571z]

Who knows, I guess will never find out. That said you're either admitting then that this not about Maduro or the plight of Venezuelans, but whoever has the biggest guns.

So you either a) stating the obvious or b) you're happy that morality is assigned asymmetrically.

It’s clear that U.S. involvement in Venezuela goes beyond a simple humanitarian mission to 'liberate' the people. From a realpolitik perspective, this is about maintaining hegemony in the Western Hemisphere and ensuring long-term regional security. By pushing back against the growing influence of China and Russia in Caracas, the U.S. is signaling that the Monroe Doctrine is still very much alive. The motivations are layered…..securing the world’s largest oil reserves, disrupting transnational drug trafficking, and asserting dominance over a defiant regime that refuses to align with the USA interests

 

[pjcrows]

It’s clear that U.S. involvement in Venezuela goes beyond a simple humanitarian mission to 'liberate' the people. From a realpolitik perspective, this is about maintaining hegemony in the Western Hemisphere and ensuring long-term regional security. By pushing back against the growing influence of China and Russia in Caracas, the U.S. is signaling that the Monroe Doctrine is still very much alive. The motivations are layered…..securing the world’s largest oil reserves, disrupting transnational drug trafficking, and asserting dominance over a defiant regime that refuses to align with the USA interests

ChatGPT never fails.

 

[RCAB]

It’s clear that U.S. involvement in Venezuela goes beyond a simple humanitarian mission to 'liberate' the people.

It's not just "clear," it's the only thing.

 

[liz]

Look at the biggest social issues since Occupy Wall St conveniently disappeared and the extreme reactions from both political persuasions and you'll see what I mean. It's all just a big distraction for the masses though.

That paragraph provides me zero insights into what you understand by "extreme identity politics". I remain unable to attach any meaning to the term.

Maybe you can list (some of) what you think have been the biggest social issues, and provide some description and explanation of the extreme reactions to those issues.

 

[Sqotty from office works]

Quite frankly I think New Zealand some liberation. I am not sure who New Zealands Prime Minister is but we should definitely go in, remove him (or her) and liberate New Zealand from their tyrony. I also heard New Zealand is sending drugs to Australia and are opening up their insane assylums and sending those people here.

We could install Andrew Demetreo as a puppet leader and declare the upper island a north Melbourne stronghold, and the lower island as a stkilda stronghold.

 

[10571z]

ChatGPT never fails.

No ChatGPT

 

[Cooldude]

Since so many of the nutjobs in this forum love American imperialism, they should just move to the US already and sign up for ICE.

 

[Kirby]

No ChatGPT

Well, it wasn't you who wrote that reply.

 

[pjcrows]

No ChatGPT

Which AI generator?

Because you didn't write it.

 

[GrayRanga]

Well, it wasn't you who wrote that reply.

A couple of the words had more than two syllables

Given the standard of his usual responses there is obviouly a third party influence

 

[Baldur]

We could install Andrew Demetreo as a puppet leader and declare the upper island a north Melbourne stronghold, and the lower island as a stkilda stronghold.

If we can ban any sport in the South Island but for Aussie Rules, change St Kilda's colours to all black and make the entire island a St Kilda reserved draft area. Yes please.

 

[RCAB]

No ChatGPT

It doesn't matter, can you or GPT answer these questions?


Based on your previous post I want to ask:

Does the motive justify extrajudicial capture? And why.

Does hegemony override sovereignty?

What precedent does this set for other powers?

What happens when these tools are used against US aligned leaders?

 

[pjcrows]

It doesn't matter, can you or GPT answer these questions?


Based on your previous post I want to ask:

Does the motive justify extrajudicial capture? And why.

Does hegemony override sovereignty?

What precedent does this set for other powers?

What happens when these tools are used against US aligned leaders?

ChatGPT input incoming:

"respond to these questions but make it look like big footy not chatgpt"

 

[76woodenspooners]

What sort of retaliation do you think North Korea and Russia would take if Trump captured their glorious leaders?

Russia - Nobody knows, not even Russia.

North Korea - Only the leader? They’d become a serious terrorist state. Leader + Sister? Probably not capable of much without leadership.

Surely you can work out why that’s not feasible.

It’s not just about what would happen next if they did that …

… what would be more scary is what would happen next if they attempted it and failed.

 

[Royces Hart]

Now I certainly was left growing but what being 'left' meant went from simply caring about the environment, having robust social systems, supporting the working class, LGBQT+ rights

Always vote for who potentially benefits you the most through their policies

These two things don’t seem very compatible for someone from the left.

 

[Beerfish]

These two things don’t seem very compatible for someone from the left.

He's not from the left. He's a centrist just asking questions.

 

[TheSunGod]

what a nerve. a two-bit rwnj threatening a man of decency who has served his country with honour. just why there isn't rebellion in the streets at this fascist control is beyond belief.

https://www.npr.org/2026/01/05/nx-s1-5667080/mark-kelly-pete-hegseth-pentagon-military-rank-retirement

They’ve picked a fight with the wrong bloke. Kelly is 10 times the man and leader than those two clowns.

 

[10571z]

It doesn't matter, can you or GPT answer these questions?


Based on your previous post I want to ask:

Does the motive justify extrajudicial capture? And why.


What precedent does this set for other powers?

What happens when these tools are used against US aligned leaders?

Does the motive justify extrajudicial capture? And why.

It is important to acknowledge that we are limited by our own perspective, we lack the high level intelligence available to the U.S. government. From their viewpoint, the ends may justify the means. Realistically, however, a dictator is unlikely to be overthrown without a significant civilian uprising and the inevitable bloodshed that accompanies it.

Does hegemony override sovereignty?

It really depends on the situation there isn't a one size fits all answer. While everyone should be the 'boss' of their own territory, they also have a responsibility to work effectively with the rest of the international community. Venezuela probably should have banked their chips with the USA...

What precedent does this set for other powers?

I agree that this sets a dangerous precedent, but that is the calculated risk the U.S. chose to take. Whether this signals a 'green light' for China remains to be seen, but given that Russia is already following this path in Ukraine, the global consequences are unpredictable.

What happens when these tools are used against US aligned leaders?

Essentially, the U.S. is relying on its status as the world's 'top dog.' However, that dominance is highly situational. If someone like Vice President JD Vance were to be targeted by a rival power like Russia or China while abroad, things could escalate into an incredibly volatile situation.

 

[TheSunGod]

Absolutely mental how MAGA just pretzel themselves into the appropriate compliant configuration no matter what it is that dear leader does.

They all, to a man, would have been staunchly non-interventionist this time last year.

 

[QuietB]

This is from a public broadcaster. Imagine what the private propaganda outlets are insisting on

 

[Royces Hart]

It is important to acknowledge that we are limited by our own perspective, we lack the high level intelligence available to the U.S. government. From their viewpoint, the ends may justify the means.

I guess that’s ok then. Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[Stan_Darsh72]

Look at the biggest social issues since Occupy Wall St conveniently disappeared and the extreme reactions from both political persuasions and you'll see what I mean. It's all just a big distraction for the masses though.

Well the media classes and their owners went all in on culture wars and identity politics for a reason.

To deny the class struggle aka actual left wing politics.

 

[10571z]

I guess that’s ok then. Thanks for clearing that up.

I didn’t say it’s ok, but there is clearly a lot the average civilian doesn’t know.

 

[TheSunGod]

We could install Andrew Demetreo as a puppet leader and declare the upper island a north Melbourne stronghold, and the lower island as a stkilda stronghold.

And renamed the Nepo islands.

 

[JackOutback]

No ChatGPT