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[King Patty]

My concern with the current US Government is it will be transactional


Putting my tinfoil cap on I can see a phone call between Trump and Xi where Xi is asked to ''scare Austria '' so there is pressure on a minerals deal

My concern is who in Australia will fight for Australia.
It won't be the new arrivals.
It won;t be the politicians. Maybe pauline
Can't just expect US too, they might but only if it is for their benefit.

But why would young people fight for a country where the government hates them.
They are priced out of a home and can't have kids until mid 30's if they are lucky due to financial stresses or if get a leg up from parents.
Their education is a lot on Australia's failures, but little of successes.

 

[pjcrows]

Looking forward to seeing 10571z trying to defend this

https://www.reuters.com/world/trump...reenland-us-military-is-always-an-2026-01-06/

I hear they have a lot of fentanyl.

 

[QuietB]

They are going to come for Greenland and this country will still be sitting on the fence between being economic friends with China yet being militarily aligned with the USA.

Those AUKUS submarines were never coming, but now that the Trump-led GOP is in, it has become a certainty.

They will never come to our rescue if we are attacked by a hypothetical enemy, which was a load of bollocks said to defend their presence here. First it was Indonesia, now it’s China, who depend on our minerals and ore to build their cities and raise their urbanisation to a high level (we are 20% more urbanised for example). Why would they disrupt that. It’s fear mongering.

Leaving the tit of America does not mean we have to be Chinas right hand man. There are plenty of countries willing to work with us. Maybe we should start with our neighbours.

And for anyone who thinks the USA is going to come and save us, they need to acknowledge that the USA has completely screwed Germany and their economy, the USA completely screwed Korea and their economy, the USA has all but abandoned Europe and is threatening to invade a NATO country, the USA is screwing everyone except Israel and their turn will come.

Australia cannot rely on the USA for protection - which Australia incidentally does not need, no one is coming for us.

So the question is, why is Australia paying rent for something that Australia will never get?

 

[Financialpanther]

I hear they have a lot of fentanyl.

Plenty of ice.

 

[10571z]

That’s funny as the U.S. Navy sails nuclear armed carrier battle groups near the Taiwan Straits just a few miles off China coast and their message is “we’re in international waters b*tches deal with it”. But then with this map of the Arctic which shows the U.S. has little coastline along the Arctic:

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Now you’re starting an attempt to provide justification for a U.S. annexation of Greenland. China’s “rising presence” is limited to cargo ships and research vessels and hasn’t spoken of military invasions like America just has. They are the threat.

As a side note it’s also funny that by admitting the increase in importance of the Arctic due to ice melting opening up shipping lanes the Trump administration are also acknowledging climate change is real for once.

Yep, innocent China just scouring the region for “research”

 

[Zidane98]

Dont need battery powered aircraft, trucking, and cargo ships.. as long as consumer internal combustions move away from oil then it would reduce the over requirement.

personal vehicles are slowly moving to battery / hybrid. majority of consumer garden equipment, will be battery in a few years, land and pro users will stay with petrol.

Definitely. Personal transportation accounts for 1/3 of global oil demand so replacing that with battery power completely is going to impact oil pricing significantly. This is achievable within 20-25 years.

 

[bourbons]

What was the right legal way for a 25 million bounty to work? Who was suppose to carry it out?

Anyone but the US military via traditional interventionist bombings?

This isn't complicated mate, despite your best efforts to make it so.

Is it even legal for the USA to place bounty’s on international leaders?

Oh look, MAGA cares legality again.

Flip flop

 

[Aussie in exile]

The US making plans to acquire Greenland

US discussing options to acquire Greenland, including use of military - White House

It came as European allies rallied behind Denmark after renewed US insistence it must have Greenland.

www.bbc.com

 

[bourbons]

Wtf is this lol

 

[nut]

I hate to break it to you but here are the facts:

Jet fuel energy density: https://hypertextbook.com/facts/2003/EvelynGofman.shtml

Between 43-48mj kg

Li-Ion Battery energy density: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium-ion_battery

• 0.46 - 0.72 MJ/kg: Common commercial range.
• 0.54 - 0.9 MJ/kg: Modern cells often fall here (equivalent to 150-250 Wh/kg)

A fully fueled A320 commercial contains 23,000kg of jet fuel:

Airbus A320 family - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

This equates to 989,000 MJ of energy stored in jet fuel on a fully fueled A320.

You need 43 x that in battery power right now with the very best battery technology around just to break even with energy of a fully fueled A320.

Converting it to battery energy sees 1,100,000kg of Li-Ion battery energy being required (going off the very best available in battery technology right now) The heaviest A320 series aircraft has a MTOW of 93,000kg.




We won't be seeing battery powered commercial airliners in our lifetimes the size of an A320/737 or bigger. Battery technology is improving but not by a factor of x 43.



Maybe within 30-50 years a 20 seat commuter aircraft with a range of 1000kms or less might happen if we're lucky.


This equation is even worse for massive cargo ships which weigh up to 236,000T. These will be ICE powered for the next 200 years minimum.

Large scale batteries are developing at an extraordinary pace.
You’ve already dismissed heavy machinery … EV trucks are dominating new trucks.
Fuel saving can pay an EV truck off in 2-3 years.

I’d say with in 10 years we will see commercial Aircraft on profitable routes like Sydney Melbourne.

The Swedish Heart ES-30 should be flying commercially in 2028- 30 seater.

BYD have already developed a hybrid car carrying ship.
Tassie producing electric ferries… Norway have been operating them for years.

It’s sad that we have people who think they are living in a first world country, that have third world minds…


Technology doesnt care what you believe.

 

[10571z]

Anyone but the US military via traditional interventionist bombings?



Oh look, MAGA cares legality again.

Flip flop

You are the one concerned about the legality of the operation.

Like I asked is placing a bounty on someone’s head legal?

 

[pjcrows]

Staggering how some have comfortably made the leap to "Well, this was all inevitable anyway, it's just territorial bargaining".

They're pretty close to "I wonder if a Trump/Putin/Xi trio splitting up the globe for themselves will actually be alright?"

A few are there already.

 

[faible]

Yep, innocent China just scouring the region for “research”

The US has invaded more sovereign states than China.

If you were to pick a single world power most likely to invade another country, it's probably the US.

Stop treating the world like a Hollywood movie where the US are the good guys. They're not.

 

[faible]

Staggering how some have comfortably made the leap to "Well, this was all inevitable anyway, it's just territorial bargaining".

They're pretty close to "I wonder if a Trump/Putin/Xi trio splitting up the globe for themselves will actually be alright?"

A few are there already.

They're already reaching the 'I'd rather be taken over by the US than China' phase of things I'd say.

 

[bourbons]

Does Trump get to collect Biden's $25 million dollar bounty placed on Maduro in January 2025? Later that year, the reward was increased to $50 million under Trump. "I guess we save $50 million," said Marco Rubio. They obviously agreed on something! Biden also stated in 1989 that these dictators and drug lords will be sought out in their own backyard if need be.

Yep good idea, the $3B increase in his personal wealth since the start of his 2nd term clearly not enough, poor old Don deserves a break

 

[pjcrows]

The current LNP is pretty out of touch with what a conservative voter looks like these days IMO, they're chasing the US conservative / One Nation style voter at the expense of the Australian centre-right voter.

Which is why they were decimated at the election last year.

 

[Zidane98]

Large scale batteries are developing at an extraordinary pace.
You’ve already dismissed heavy machinery … EV trucks are dominating new trucks.
Fuel saving can pay an EV truck off in 2-3 years.

I’d say with in 10 years we will see commercial Aircraft on profitable routes like Sydney Melbourne.

The Swedish Heart ES-30 should be flying commercially in 2028- 30 seater.

BYD have already developed a hybrid car carrying ship.
Tassie producing electric ferries… Norway have been operating them for years.

It’s sad that we have people who think they are living in a first world country, that have third world minds…


Technology doesnt care what you believe.

The facts are that the very best in battery power has an energy density 43 times less than jet fuel right now.


There is 0% chance of battery technology increasing by a factor of 43 within 10 years. There is 0% chance of large commercial aircraft being powered by batteries within the next 10 years.


You are not living in reality if you believe there will be a 737/A320 sized battery powered commercial aircraft within 10 years.

I have not dismissed trucks, I am dismissing cargo ships of 100,000T or greater being powered by batteries. Not happening in our lifetimes, if you did the math on the amount of battery energy required to move 100,000T or greater you would realise it is an impossibility.

 

[pjcrows]

Yep good idea, the $3B increase in his personal wealth since the start of his 2nd term clearly not enough, poor old Don deserves a break

Trump isn't the first President or elected official to line their pockets while in office.

 

[QuietB]

Staggering how some have comfortably made the leap to "Well, this was all inevitable anyway, it's just territorial bargaining".

They're pretty close to "I wonder if a Trump/Putin/Xi trio splitting up the globe for themselves will actually be alright?"

A few are there already.

It amazing how little people understand that the absence of any rules based order is actually a diabolical outcome for Australia.

 

[GrayRanga]

Do you get paid to write their press releases?

Uses AI for his more recent posts.

The language he uses is too stilted to be written by a person and any decent editor would be going through the prose with a large red pen.

He is not editing his posts

 

[nut]

The facts are that the very best in battery power has an energy density 43 times less than jet fuel right now.


There is 0% chance of battery technology increasing by a factor of 43 within 10 years. There is 0% chance of large commercial aircraft being powered by batteries within the next 10 years.


You are not living in reality if you believe there will be a 737/A320 sized battery powered commercial aircraft within 10 years.

I have not dismissed trucks, I am dismissing cargo ships of 100,000T or greater being powered by batteries. Not happening in our lifetimes, if you did the math on the amount of battery energy required to move 100,000T or greater you would realise it is an impossibility.

Batteries dont lose massive amounts of energy through heat loss… your figures are wrong.

A 737 or A320 aircraft needs a battery density of about 1000wh per Kilogram… we are mass producing batteries already at half that. … Research batteries already have reached 700wh….

It’s only a matter of time.
They’ll have the tech within 10 years…

 

[The Sultan]

Which is why they were decimated at the election last year.

no one liked the munted testicle as leader of the LNP

 

[bourbons]

You are the one concerned about the legality of the operation.

Of course, quite a few functional adults are.

Like I asked is placing a bounty on someone’s head legal?

While MAGA has traditionally not cared about illegality at all (well, not those of people they like anyway), so its a bit weird that you'd bring it up ¯\(ツ)/¯

Almost like it's a deflection

 

[bourbons]

Trump isn't the first President or elected official to line their pockets while in office.

True enough, not sure any have perfected the art quite like the Don has though.

 

[pjcrows]

True enough, not sure any have perfected the art quite like the Don has though.

Nancy Pelosi says hello.