Teams which underachieved?

[Mr Meow]

Have Geelong under Chris Scott under achieved?

13 finals from 15 season, 2 flags under his tenure (one in his debut season with a team that had already won a flag under Bomber).

Probably should've found another flag somewhere.

Very good finals (and dynasty run) sides (Hawthorn 2013, Richmond 2019-2020, Brisbane 2024-2025) were in the way for some of the best chances though.

 

[PowerfulPies2023]

Geelong 1993. Had they made the 6 they would have won it. Smashed everyone leading up to the finals. North, WCE, Bombers. Just missed out. Red hot form and a team full of stars.

 

[Tasmanian saint]

I think the Saints arguably should have won 2009 so the Cats did a North in 99 Job of making amends.

We wasted a few seasons under grant Thomas as well really should have won with a prime gtrain Harvey still playing well and plenty of young stars

 

[SSSSSS]

Port team of the early 2000s.

Just a bit unfortunate that they had to run into the best team of the 21st century.

 

[Tasmanian saint]

Freo had no GF experience. And Ross Lyon cannot coach a premiership

I think that’s a little bit ruff took one of the all time great Geelong teams to the absolute death, and literally a bad bounce from a premiership the following year against Collingwood

 

[PowerfulPies2023]

I think that’s a little bit ruff took one of the all time great Geelong teams to the absolute death, and literally a bad bounce from a premiership the following year against Collingwood

Yes. But it was the Ross Lyon effect as to why they lost narrowly to Geelong and the ball bouncing the wrong way against us.

The Ross Lyon kiss of death.

 

[Sttew]

I think that’s a little bit ruff took one of the all time great Geelong teams to the absolute death, and literally a bad bounce from a premiership the following year against Collingwood

Not how I saw it at least in 2009. It was as though Saints wanted to defend the one goal lead heading into the last quarter. They were kept goalless in the 4Q and managed 3 behinds o e of which was a rushed behind. This from the best performed team in 2009

 

[PowerfulPies2023]

For such a great year the Saints shouldn't have even been there. Dogs should have got them in the prelim.

 

[Tasmanian saint]

Not how I saw it at least in 2009. It was as though Saints wanted to defend the one goal lead heading into the last quarter. They were kept goalless in the 4Q and managed 3 behinds o e of which was a rushed behind. This from the best performed team in 2009

I thought we were on top for large parts of the game really should have had a decent lead heading into the last quarter, missed to many scoring opportunities throughout the middle part of the game I don’t think you can blame Lyon for that, Geelong was always going to come home hard at the end we had our chances to get it done

 

[PowerfulPies2023]

I thought we were on top for large parts of the game really should have had a decent lead heading into the last quarter, missed to many scoring opportunities throughout the middle part of the game I don’t think you can blame Lyon for that, Geelong was always going to come home hard at the end we had our chances to get it done

I agree. First half

7.7
7.1

Should have been at least 3 up at half time. Cats would have really struggled from there in those conditions.

 

[SC_Power]

Port Adelaide AFL.

9 top 4 finishes in 29 seasons.
4 minor premierships
1 premiership

Textbook definition of underachievement

 

[Papa G]

Port team of the early 2000s.

Just a bit unfortunate that they had to run into the best team of the 21st century.

Nah it wasnt that, we lost finals 2 years running to a vastly inferior Collingwood side is what hurt us. Whether we would have beaten Brisbane in the GF is the unknown.

 

[PowerfulPies2023]

Nah it wasnt that, we lost finals 2 years running to a vastly inferior Collingwood side is what hurt us. Whether we would have beaten Brisbane in the GF is the unknown.

You guys weren't even close in 2002 and 2003. Losing 4 times in two finals campaigns says it all. Losing twice at home first up also speaks volumes.

 

[SC_Power]

You guys weren't even close in 2002 and 2003. Losing 4 times in two finals campaigns says it all. Losing twice at home first up also speaks volumes.

Nah never close.
Split H&A v Brisbane in 2001, 2002, 2003, a few of the great H&A games that many in Vic especially didn’t see because they were getting games like St Kilda v North FTA (I know as I was living there)

But nah, never good enough (retrospectively of course).

 

[Piggy Smalls]

Nah never close.
Split H&A v Brisbane in 2001, 2002, 2003, a few of the great H&A games that many in Vic especially didn’t see because they were getting games like St Kilda v North FTA (I know as I was living there)

But nah, never good enough (retrospectively of course).

If H&A held that much weight we'd all be saying Adelaide were close last year. They weren't when it mattered and that's all anyone remembers.

 

[PowerfulPies2023]

Funny how minor premiers don't win the flag that much. At least since I've been watching.

 

[PowerfulPies2023]

90 no
91 no
92 no
93 no
94 yes
95 yes
96 no
97 no
98 no
99 no
2000 yes
2001 no
2002 no
2003 no
2004 yes
2005 no
2006 yes
2007 yes
2008 no
2009 no
2010 yes
2011 no
2012 no
2013 yes
2014 no
2015 no
2016 no
2017 no
2018 no
2019 no
2020 no
2021 yes
2022 yes
2023 yes
2024 no
2025 no

11 out of the past 36 seasons only has the side that topped the ladder won the flag.

 

[Cold Ghost]

How many double chance teams went out in straight sets in the past 25 years. Would they be considered underachievers?

 

[PowerfulPies2023]

How many double chance teams went out in straight sets in the past 25 years. Would they be considered underachievers?

Ok since 2000

2001 Port
2007 wce
2014 Geelong Freo
2015 Sydney
2016 hawks
2018 hawks
2019 lions
2021 lions
2022 dees
2023 dees
2024 gws
2025 Adelaide

Port 2001 yes
Cats 2014 were just rubbish tbh Dockers choked at home vs the power. Yes.
2015 swans had injuries
2016 freak year dogs went berserk
2018 no
2019 kind of. Topped the ladder. Inexperienced though.
2021 dogs beat the lions by a point and were top 4 all season until the last game
2023 dees yes chokers As they were in 2022.
2024 GWS yes blew the leads in both finals but did lose to eventual champs lions.
2025 yes.

 

[SC_Power]

If H&A held that much weight we'd all be saying Adelaide were close last year. They weren't when it mattered and that's all anyone remembers.

Then there’s no such thing as underachieving.

If you lose finals, you’re not that good, therefore you didn’t underachieve.

 

[Dark Eagle 9]

Ok since 2000

2001 Port
2014 Geelong Freo
2015 Sydney
2016 hawks
2018 hawks
2019 lions
2021 lions
2022 dees
2023 dees
2024 gws
2025 Adelaide

Port 2001 yes
Cats 2014 were just rubbish tbh Dockers choked at home vs the power. Yes.
2015 swans had injuries
2016 freak year dogs went berserk
2018 no
2019 kind of. Topped the ladder. Inexperienced though.
2021 dogs beat the lions by a point and were top 4 all season until the last game
2023 dees yes chokers As they were in 2022.
2024 GWS yes blew the leads in both finals but did lose to eventual champs lions.
2025 yes.

2007 West Coast straight setted by the angry Footy Gods.

Power 2001 - 2004 the greatest underacheivers. Yes the Pies could match them 2001 -2003, their bogie side for sure. But a side spitting that much talent & rocking that well for 4 years straight had no excuses to lose at home to the Hawks, Pies & Swans in finals. If we had 3 years of Power v Lions GF's i'd say history would have been far more interesting. That loss to Sydney was both helarious for non Power supporters & incredibly sad for them at the same time.

 

[Papa G]

2007 West Coast straight setted by the angry Footy Gods.

Power 2001 - 2004 the greatest underacheivers. Yes the Pies could match them 2001 -2003, their bogie side for sure. But a side spitting that much talent & rocking that well for 4 years straight had no excuses to lose at home to the Hawks, Pies & Swans in finals. If we had 3 years of Power v Lions GF's i'd say history would have been far more interesting. That loss to Sydney was both helarious for non Power supporters & incredibly sad for them at the same time.

Bro. That 2003 final againt the Swans... my Lebo mate who'd gone through every game with me, rang me late, says cant make it, for some ****edup reason, but Mum will come! So I sat with Eltufie, watching that debarcle. Good snacks but FMD!

 

[Dark Eagle 9]

Bro. That 2003 final againt the Swans... my Lebo mate who'd gone through every game with me, rang me late, says cant make it, for some ****edup reason, but Mum will come! So I sat with Eltufie, watching that debarcle. Good snacks but FMD!

That's gold. Port supporters looked like they were going to go on a murderous rampage after that game. If they lost the qualifying the next year..... honestly may as well of folded the club then & there.

 

[GoldbergsGold]

Easily St Kilda in that 2004-2010 period, even 1997 they royally stuffed that up.

 

[GoldbergsGold]

I still think the 2014 Sydney team was a good team, they just shat themselves on Grand Final day.

I thought both Hawthorn and Port Adelaide would have thumped them that day, just so happened to be Hawthorn. 2016 is more so the one that they really should have won.