Roast If you are hating, you ain’t watching.

[B4Bear]

Jy Simpkin

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Jy Simpkin

Age

28

Ht

183cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.0

4star

K

7.9

3star

HB

8.1

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

3.3

5star

CL

2.9

4star

D

20.6

5star

K

11.0

4star

HB

9.6

5star

M

2.0

2star

T

3.5

4star

CL

5.5

5star

D

10.0

3star

K

5.6

3star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.4

4star

CL

0.2

2star

, former captain is receiving an uncommon level of hatred here. His game yesterday was fine. He presented, and made no truely egregious errors.

Yet because he tried to leave last season, he is now the Antichrist and the reason for our ills.

A rational discussion starts at around 22:30.

If you were at the game and continue to have a crack, did you have to buy a ticket for your seeing eye dog too?

 

[TurnoverMerchant]

Josh has no idea what he is talking about when it comes to the criticism of players. I mean, the bloke defends Daniel from any negative comments he rightly receives. Why should his opinion on the matter carry any weight when he just happy claps for the club every week?

 

[archereleven]

He's a turnover merchant.

A seeing eye dog would hit more targets...

 

[desie]

Jy Simpkin, former captain is receiving an uncommon level of hatred here. His game yesterday was fine. He presented, and made no truely egregious errors.

Yet because he tried to leave last season, he is now the Antichrist and the reason for our ills.

A rational discussion starts at around 22:30.

If you were at the game and continue to have a crack, did you have to buy a ticket for your seeing eye dog too?

He made at least two truly egregious errors.

 

[Possession]

Him trying to leave last season while he was our captain only adds to the argument that this guy is selfish and has no awareness of his limitations. Awful take by Josh here with no basis in reality beyond 'club right, supporters wrong'.

Our new captain summed it up quite well: Play. Your. Role.

 

[B4Bear]

Him trying to leave last season while he was our captain only adds to the argument that this guy is selfish and has no awareness of his limitations. Awful take by Josh here with no basis in reality beyond 'club right, supporters wrong'.

Our new captain summed it up quite well: Play. Your. Role.

I am not defending last season, it was poor. What did he do that is deserving of the hate more than others who had poor games.

Curtis, Powell, Bull and CCJ had much worse games, and apart from CCJ it is crickets.

Happy to roast for a poor game, but this ain’t it.

 

[B4Bear]

He's a turnover merchant.

A seeing eye dog would hit more targets...

Got any numbers to back up your assertion?

81% DE is literally the mean for the team.

His work off the ball was outstanding, provided options all day. To say otherwise says you were watch tv and not at the game.

 

[Possession]

I am not defending last season, it was poor. What did he do that is deserving of the hate more than others who had poor games.

Curtis, Powell, Bull and CCJ had much worse games, and apart from CCJ it is crickets.

Happy to roast for a poor game, but this ain’t it.

Oh don't worry about that, mate. Bull and Powell are on serious watch right now too. Trade both of them. I'd rather have kept Teakle than CCJ, he's useless.

PC gets a pass for his illness but will really need to be showing something closer to his 2025 form soon.

 

[Uncle_Leo]

Jy Simpkin, former captain is receiving an uncommon level of hatred here. His game yesterday was fine. He presented, and made no truely egregious errors.

Yet because he tried to leave last season, he is now the Antichrist and the reason for our ills.

A rational discussion starts at around 22:30.

If you were at the game and continue to have a crack, did you have to buy a ticket for your seeing eye dog too?

We were 37 points up when he turned over a simple kick an under 16 player would hit on the half back line

His game was fine? That’s the expectation from a guy we are paying 800k plus and a former captain?

Perhaps you need the dog at the game with you

 

[Harris 10]

He handballs to Curtis in the last and Curtis ices the game. We probably go on to win by 8 goals. Instead he tries to snap on his left and stuffs it.

In saying that his ball use was better last night and thought he was ok.

 

[B4Bear]

We were 37 points up when he turned over a simple kick an under 16 player would hit on the half back line

His game was fine? That’s the expectation from a guy we are patio g 800k plus and a former captain?

Perhaps you need the dog at the game with you

And if you think a single error when multiple goals up defines the game, without acknowledging the systemic failure in the last says I don’t need a dog.

 

[perplexed]

He's a turnover merchant.

A seeing eye dog would hit more targets...

82% disposal efficiency. What are you on about? He had 2 of our 67 turnovers. He butchered it twice in 30 secs when the game was already in the bag and people are losing their minds over it.

 

[archereleven]

82% disposal efficiency. What are you on about? He had 2 of our 67 turnovers. He butchered it twice in 30 secs when the game was already in the bag and people are losing their minds over it.

Im not just going off one game mate, hes been turning it over for years, costing us momentum and goals almost every game. Its not just the disposal either, he actually thinks hes Darren Millane every time he has the ball and tries to shake off 2 tacklers or baulk 3. He never plays the percentages.

Him and Zurhaar need rockets in the worst kind of way imo, otherwise we'll keep getting served up the same shit sangas.

We should have ****ed them both off when we had the chance.

 

[shintemaster]

I can't speak for anyone else, but I can assure you that I am in fact watching North Melbourne Football Club games and have done for many years.

 

[perplexed]

Im not just going off one game mate, hes been turning it over for years, costing us momentum and goals almost every game.

Got any numbers to back this up? I think that you are just seeing what you are looking for. Of course you won't believe it, but the stats say Jy has been one of our most effective ball users over the last few years.

 

[archereleven]

Got any numbers to back this up? I think that you are just seeing what you are looking for. Of course you won't believe it, but the stats say Jy has been one of our most effective ball users over the last few years.

Mate, have at it with your stats.

When he turns the ball over, its more often than not catastrophic. He is the worst momentum killer in this team, with Zurhaar coming in a close 2nd.

Are you confident when Jy has ball in hand in a chain from HB? His handballs to team mates feet are a big feature along side missing a 20m pass by 5m.

 

[gerry101101]

Can't fault Jy's endeavour. Has even stood up in some big moments for us goal-kicking wise. But you can't overlook the mounting volume of turnovers and poor decisions in pivotal moments in the last couple of years. If we're getting to the point where we can replace him with someone better, we're moving forward as a club.

 

[amaz199]

He's a senior player with the ball in space and we all have hearts in our mouths.

Why? Ask yourself that.

 

[koshari]

Jy Simpkin, former captain is receiving an uncommon level of hatred here. His game yesterday was fine. He presented, and made no truely egregious errors.

Yet because he tried to leave last season, he is now the Antichrist and the reason for our ills.

A rational discussion starts at around 22:30.

If you were at the game and continue to have a crack, did you have to buy a ticket for your seeing eye dog too?

No , he is getting heat because he is playing selfish , me first team 2nd footy.

Someone said it best when they said he thinks hes a harlem globe trotter but hes a park player.

Imo he is trying to pump his value up but iis actually plummeting because his ego is writing checks his ability cant cash.

Having said that there is a very servicable player there if he was to play within his limitations

Sam Gibson was a great example of a bloke who knew how wide his lane was. Jye doesnt.

 

[perplexed]

Mate, have at it with your stats.

When he turns the ball over, its more often than not catastrophic. He is the worst momentum killer in this team, with Zurhaar coming in a close 2nd.

Are you confident when Jy has ball in hand in a chain from HB? His handballs to team mates feet are a big feature along side missing a 20m pass by 5m.

I keep hearing this but not seeing it - or not seeing it more or as much as many others. And when I watch the replays and check the stats to see whether or not I'm crazy, they show I'm not. People are just seeing what they are looking for. It is classic confirmation bias, we all get fooled by it. Go back and watch the game and check Jy's stats for it and the last few years. They show pretty conclusively that he is nowhere near so bad as you are making out.

 

[Caracas]

The truth is none of the players that get the most flak on here are our biggest problem. It’s just that they tend to frustrate us more when they make mistakes. For instance, LMac had an ultra solid game yesterday. However, no kudos for him because we expect that from him. Daniel did some exquisite things but he’s not great defensively. For the last 5 years at North, if you’re not great defensively, you’re in trouble with us. We’ve been defending all the time. When we start attacking more (which is happening, believe it or not), the Daniels of the world will look much better.

 

[perplexed]

He's a senior player with the ball in space and we all have hearts in our mouths.

Why? Ask yourself that.

Easy, because you've lost the plot.

 

[ferball]

Got any numbers to back this up? I think that you are just seeing what you are looking for. Of course you won't believe it, but the stats say Jy has been one of our most effective ball users over the last few years.

Jy Simpkin can have ten turnover games.

But he also has plenty of one or two turnover games as well. Yet after them the same people crap on about how he had 10 turnovers that cost us six goals.

Its never gonna change.

People see what they want to see and ignore the rest. Its not about what happens in a game its about repeatedly conditioning themselves to reinforce a model of reality they believe is real.

Humans are basically bots. 90% of what we think is automated and based on habit and nerve structure not reality.

 

[Caracas]

Jy Simpkin can have ten turnover games.

But he also has plenty of one or two turnover games as well. Yet after them the same people crap on about how he had 10 turnovers that cost us six goals.

Its never gonna change.

People see what they want to see and ignore the rest. Its not about what happens in a game its about repeatedly conditioning themselves to reinforce a model of reality they believe is real.

Humans are basically bots. 90% of what we think is automated and based on habit and nerve structure not reality.

But, we’re so lovable!

 

[7577969923]

It is the nature of the BF crowd to overreact. Jy made two pretty shocking errors in Q4, which certainly helped the Bombers gain momentum. There was the shot at goal when he should have given off the handball to a player in a better position and on their natural foot, and a terrible kick into the middle from the half-back flank when looking to switch. They were pretty awful errors. I thought up until then he had been okay, certainly not great, but okay. The stats back that view up with 22 possessions at 84 percent disposal efficiency, 3 clearances, 7 score involvements, and 3 intercepts. Some pretty awful turnovers by Daniel, McKercher, Powell, and others haven't generated the same vitriol.

Do I think Jy could be playing better than he is? Absolutely. I also think he can play a great role for us and be a real contributor in our best 23. Jy needs to get his head around the idea that we don't need him to be the B and F winner in a team that wins 2 to 4 games a season. We need him to be a solid role player in a team that wins more than it loses. Some players get criticism on here for being "vanilla", but I think Jy has to be more vanilla. If he beats his man, gets back to help in defence, goes when it is his turn, takes the first option most of the time, and plays within his limitations, he can be a really valuable player for us.

I know a lot of guys want him dropped for next week. I don't think it will happen. I watched the reserves, and no one is knocking the door down for a role on the wing. I also don't think there is anyone in the current team who does better on the wing.