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Liam Baker (27/1/98)
Jake Waterman (6/5/98)
Brandon Starcevich (24/7/99)
• Jack Hutchinson (10/11/01)
Liam Duggan (11/12/96)
Jack Graham (25/2/98)
• Tylar Young (5/9/98)
• Tom McCarthy (12/7/00)
• Brady Hough (5/3/03)
• Tyrell Dewar (27/3/04)
• Harley Reid (17/4/05)
• Bo Allan (16/02/06)
• Jobe Shanahan (2/8/06)
• Josh Lindsay (7/4/07)
• Willem Duursma (21/6/07)
• Cooper Duff-Tytler (22/8/07)
Elliot Yeo (1/10/93)
Tim Kelly (26/7/94)
• Matt Owies (19/3/97)
• Harry Edwards (1/10/00)
Deven Robertson (30/6/01)
• Finn Macrae (13/3/02)
• Sandy Brock (14/12/02)
• Reuben Ginbey (10/9/04)
• Archer Reid (19/9/05)
• Hamish Davis (2/5/06)
• Tom Gross (15/9/06)
• Lucca Grego (15/9/06)
• Sam Allen (13/1/07)
• Tylah Williams (22/2/07)
Jamie Cripps (23/4/92)
Tom Cole (28/5/97)
• Matt Flynn (13/9/97)
• Bailey Williams (17/4/00)
• Milan Murdock (30/6/00)
• Harry Schoenberg (21/2/01)
• Tyler Brockman (22/11/02)
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03)
• Jack Williams (1/12/03)
• Harry Barnett (22/1/04)
• Elijah Hewett (27/5/04)
• Noah Long (23/8/04)
• Ryan Maric (6/9/04)
• Clay Hall (12/5/05)
• Harvey Johnston (18/8/05)
• Jake Miles-Wrency (11/1/06)
• Jacob Newton (20/3/06)
• Malakai Champion (17/5/06)
• Fred Rodriguez (10/7/07)
 
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VFL watchers. I am looking at new rucks to refresh our stocks. What are your thoughts on these two options?

1. Taylor Goad is back from injury now and has played 4 games. He wont get a game ahead of Xerri for the next few years, so you'd think he could be tempted away from North. Do we table a god father offer to him? SA lad, huge at 207cm and quick for a ruck I recall, not a bad mullet as well. He has played 40 vfl games up to this point, no AFL behind Xerri. He would be in his fourth year should he come to us which would mean he better suits our timeline than say a HVH in the draft this year.

I am of the opinion that rucks, unless you have a Gawn, aren't that crucial to success, but you need to have a guy who can at least tap it to our players advantage unlike B.Will. Goad's VFL stats here. One game on managed minutes back from injury I'd assume and then 2 good games out of 3. What is he like in the VFL? Worth throwing some cash on potential?

2. Kayle Gerreyn at the dons for depth. From WA out of contract and 200cm. Could be a good development player / back up option for the ruck, but also now appears to be playing some time as a KPD, so some further depth and versatility there for a late token pick you'd think. How is his development tracking?

Ruck roster in 2027:

Outs
B.Will to go, or traded if we match
Barnett to go
J.Williams if he seeks a trade

Ins
Goad #1 option 207cm - 22 yrs old
A.Reid # 2 option 203cm - 22 yrs old
Duff-Tytler #3 option 200cm - 20yrs old
Flynn #4 option 202cm - 28yrs old (WAFL)
Kayle Gerreyn #5 option 200cm - 21yrs old (WAFL)

2027 may be tough for Goad, Reid, and CDT but after that season you would have three young players who physically should be able to handle the rigors of a season and on a similar trajectory to Ginbey, H.Reid, Duurs, etc.
I like Goad but I think he’d be very difficult to get out of North
 
Probably a stupid thought but should we be trying to lure Zane Duursma? Actually been doing well this year.
Has he though? When I saw him he was very ineffective.

I think the club will want 2 x First Rounders & 2 x Second Rounders plus a Key Defender & Inside Mid via Free Agency. If he costs us a Third Rounder or less, then it’s something we could consider.
 
VFL watchers. I am looking at new rucks to refresh our stocks. What are your thoughts on these two options?

1. Taylor Goad is back from injury now and has played 4 games. He wont get a game ahead of Xerri for the next few years, so you'd think he could be tempted away from North. Do we table a god father offer to him? SA lad, huge at 207cm and quick for a ruck I recall, not a bad mullet as well. He has played 40 vfl games up to this point, no AFL behind Xerri. He would be in his fourth year should he come to us which would mean he better suits our timeline than say a HVH in the draft this year.

I am of the opinion that rucks, unless you have a Gawn, aren't that crucial to success, but you need to have a guy who can at least tap it to our players advantage unlike B.Will. Goad's VFL stats here. One game on managed minutes back from injury I'd assume and then 2 good games out of 3. What is he like in the VFL? Worth throwing some cash on potential?

2. Kayle Gerreyn at the dons for depth. From WA out of contract and 200cm. Could be a good development player / back up option for the ruck, but also now appears to be playing some time as a KPD, so some further depth and versatility there for a late token pick you'd think. How is his development tracking?

Ruck roster in 2027:

Outs
B.Will to go, or traded if we match
Barnett to go
J.Williams if he seeks a trade

Ins
Goad #1 option 207cm - 22 yrs old
A.Reid # 2 option 203cm - 22 yrs old
Duff-Tytler #3 option 200cm - 20yrs old
Flynn #4 option 202cm - 28yrs old (WAFL)
Kayle Gerreyn #5 option 200cm - 21yrs old (WAFL)

2027 may be tough for Goad, Reid, and CDT but after that season you would have three young players who physically should be able to handle the rigors of a season and on a similar trajectory to Ginbey, H.Reid, Duurs, etc.
Gerryn is more of a forward / ruck to me than a genuine ruck.

Also, the game has changed, rucks are a lot more important, scores from CB and stoppages are sky rocketing and having a dependable and ideally athletic ruck is becoming invaluable.

I don’t think we can keep using successful teams of the past not having great rucks as a guideline anymore, you need a reliable one now.

Goad is worth a try, I wouldn’t be surprised if North do get him in the team soon to see how him and Xerri look together.

If Goad did want to leave though, both SA clubs would be all over him.
 
Really need guys like Hewett to come on and stick around to keep this rebuild on track.

Not particularly worried at this stage - the club seems to rate him internally. We'd be in a better position if not for dud picks like Chesser, Barnett and Burgiel.
Not every pick is gonna hit, but also saying that, Chesser was always going to be a bust.
VFL watchers. I am looking at new rucks to refresh our stocks. What are your thoughts on these two options?

1. Taylor Goad is back from injury now and has played 4 games. He wont get a game ahead of Xerri for the next few years, so you'd think he could be tempted away from North. Do we table a god father offer to him? SA lad, huge at 207cm and quick for a ruck I recall, not a bad mullet as well. He has played 40 vfl games up to this point, no AFL behind Xerri. He would be in his fourth year should he come to us which would mean he better suits our timeline than say a HVH in the draft this year.
Goad can't get near it and is almost delist fodder. Never say never but he won't be ready for us any time soon.
Also, the game has changed, rucks are a lot more important, scores from CB and stoppages are sky rocketing and having a dependable and ideally athletic ruck is becoming invaluable.
Lies. It's been going down over the last 5 seasons as well.
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Gerryn is more of a forward / ruck to me than a genuine ruck.

Also, the game has changed, rucks are a lot more important, scores from CB and stoppages are sky rocketing and having a dependable and ideally athletic ruck is becoming invaluable.

I don’t think we can keep using successful teams of the past not having great rucks as a guideline anymore, you need a reliable one now.

Goad is worth a try, I wouldn’t be surprised if North do get him in the team soon to see how him and Xerri look together.

If Goad did want to leave though, both SA clubs would be all over him.
Don’t doubt both SA clubs would be into him if he plays well. That’s why you go in hard this year before he is out of contract and turn his head. The right amount of years and a decent bag would be needed of course as we legit suck.

Our list managers pushed hard for Marshall, Cameron, Moyle, etc, by all reports last year. You’d like them to be aggressive again for a core list need.
 
Not every pick is gonna hit, but also saying that, Chesser was always going to be a bust.

Goad can't get near it and is almost delist fodder. Never say never but he won't be ready for us any time soon.

Lies. It's been going down over the last 5 seasons as well.
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That pie chart doesn't really apply to the current situation with the new ruck rules. I agree that centre bounce clearances have risen exponentially.
 
That pie chart doesn't really apply to the current situation with the new ruck rules. I agree that centre bounce clearances have risen exponentially.
Actually, centre bounce clearances have reduced to zero..





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Going to be tight but hopefully we can make three hard calls.

Off the top of my head: Barnett, Johnston, Brockman, Cole, Schoenberg, Cripps, Flynn should all be off the list at a minimum. Bazzo and Long are borderline. Billiams and Jilliams may head to other clubs.

Don’t think it’s going to be that tight at all.
 

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Off the top of my head: Barnett, Johnston, Brockman, Cole, Schoenberg, Cripps, Flynn should all be off the list at a minimum. Bazzo and Long are borderline. Billiams and Jilliams may head to other clubs.

Don’t think it’s going to be that tight at all.
My sarcasm was obviously a little too subtle. I’d delist 12 from the main list Cole, Owies, Brockman, Flynn, J Williams, Cripps, Barnett, Bazzo, Johnson, B Williams, Maric and Long. The caveat being we find a ruck replacement.

IN:

2-Butler
18-Snell
19-Ladbrook
34-Gale
3R(SYD), R4(WCE), R4(WBD) for Busslinger
F2, JWilliams, Maric for Dawson, F3
Kenh, Banfield, McGlade (3)
FA-Neale, Witts (2)
Cat A-Best A/V
Cat B-Farmer (1)
MSD-Griffin, NHH (2)
 
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Not every pick is gonna hit, but also saying that, Chesser was always going to be a bust.
I can’t disagree with this enough. Chess had his development wrecked by injury. The same way Cody Burgiel did. I was damn near certain Burgiel was going to be our half back for 10 years. I hope he goes on to have a great WAFL career.

Hewett is in the same basket now. He’s in the side but playing like crap. He’s a long way off where a third year player of his calibre should be.
 
My sarcasm was obviously a little too subtle. I’d delist 13 from the main list Cole, Owies, Brockman, Flynn, J Williams, Maric, Cripps, Barnett, Bazzo, Johnson, B Williams, Maric and Long. The caveat being we find a ruck replacement.

IN:

2-Butler
18-Snell
19-Ladbrook
34-Gale
3R(SYD), R4(WCE), R4(WBD) for Busslinger
F2, JWilliams, Maric for Dawson, F3
Kenh, Banfield, McGlade (3)
FA-Neale, Witts (2)
Cat A-Best A/V
Cat B-Farmer (1)
MSD-Griffin, NHH (2)
Maric so bad he’s being delisted twice!
 
I can’t disagree with this enough. Chess had his development wrecked by injury. The same way Cody Burgiel did. I was damn near certain Burgiel was going to be our half back for 10 years. I hope he goes on to have a great WAFL caree.

If Chesser's U10 form continued he'd be a Brownlow medalist by now.

Alas, he regressed every year after that and we still drafted him during the downward spiral :(
 
If Chesser's U10 form continued he'd be a Brownlow medalist by now.

Alas, he regressed every year after that and we still drafted him during the downward spiral :(
And after 4 years he played a couple of decent games where we still offered him a 2 year deal with a trigger for a 3rd. We might’ve had some luck with that one
 

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My sarcasm was obviously a little too subtle. I’d delist 12 from the main list Cole, Owies, Brockman, Flynn, J Williams, Cripps, Barnett, Bazzo, Johnson, B Williams, Maric and Long. The caveat being we find a ruck replacement.

IN:

2-Butler
18-Snell
19-Ladbrook
34-Gale
3R(SYD), R4(WCE), R4(WBD) for Busslinger
F2, JWilliams, Maric for Dawson, F3
Kenh, Banfield, McGlade (3)
FA-Neale, Witts (2)
Cat A-Best A/V
Cat B-Farmer (1)
MSD-Griffin, NHH (2)
I really don't understand what people have against Maric, I think because he's already over 50 games we sometimes forget he's only 21. For me he's such an obvious set on the wing and leave him there to keep developing, with the bonus that he can play half back or 3rd tall forward if needed. At worst he's a handy role player to have but I think he can become a solid B grade player when he's 24 / 25 which lines up with the rest of the teams development perfectly.

J Williams I've always had a soft spot for because he comes across as a good footballer, but he may get left behind by our other more athletic Key Forwards.

Bazzo hopefully gets a bit of a run in the AFL side so we can actually see if he's worth keeping or not.

Long I'm hoping will get a lifeline with a rookie spot for next year as we desperately need good ball users who can link our midfield to our forward line.
 

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Don't know where else to put this - the fact that this has made it onto the AFL website is a good sign
I love it. Would make sure talent is developed well (with clear advantages to us around selecting rookies like Geelong does by hiding the fringe guys). Would also give good leverage to chip the Northern academies away over time. Sydney's Chairman couldn't cry about funding an academy when we do the same but actually pay for it with our money (and don't even get priority selection).

It would also give us a chancre to fiddle the softcap. I wonder how many development coaches the Northern clubs share with the academy and split their salary between cap and non cap (assuming work for academy is outside the cap)? Brisbane was very pioneering with this by partnering with a uni to do S&C work (moving that spend to sponsorship and not football department).
 


Hate to say it but yeah, this is what good trading looks like and for a while they have nailed their drafting too.

Compare this to what we’ve been bringing in and it’s chalk and cheese.

Jackson is the big win there. Giving up 3 first round picks for Bolton looks a lot better because everyone else overlooked Murphy Reid, but well done to them for nailing the pick.

Amiss is a donkey, I'm not sure that pick 6 stacks up. Him running riot against our weak as piss backline doesn't mean he was a good pick-up.

What Freo have done really well is the SSP pick-ups. I know its early but how did they uncover Dudley who could impact games in bursts in his first year and looks miles ahead of Malakai. Mason Cox was a selection we should have been all over. Voss was a great pick up as well.

Compare that with Schoenberg, Macrae, and Brock - miles ahead.

They've also stayed incredibly fit outside of Young and Darcy, hats off to their fitness department.
 

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