Religion ‘Submit to your husbands’: Women told to endure domestic violence in the name of God

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It's not bigoted to dislike religion equally. That's like saying you're bigoted because you prefer Christianity over Judaism.
You have to see they are different things and view each on thier merits and flaws, after spending time to understand, same as with individual people. If you tar things, or people as all _______ based on a generalisation you are going to be pretty simplistic, and bigoted.
 
You have to see they are different things and view each on thier merits and flaws, after spending time to understand, same as with individual people. If you tar things, or people as all _______ based on a generalisation you are going to be pretty simplistic, and bigoted.
It's not simplistic though. You're making it that.
 

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If Aboriginal women are 30-40 times more likely to be the victims of violence and abuse than non Aboriginal women do you believe that they have evangelical christian partners at highly disproportionate rates?

Legitimate question. I can feel a weak excuse threadban coming here.
No but I think Chiefs response re gender power differential may be the answer you seek.

Many religious texts support this power differential.
 
Sometimes the truth is boring. Ideologies based on obvious falsities as all religions do suck. It is no shocker.
How about religions like Taoism or Bhuddism where inspection of the body, mind and nature is the most important practise? Without intimate knowledge of these things how is chucking these thing all in the bin with radical Islam anything less than moronic?
 
No but I think Chiefs response re gender power differential may be the answer you seek.

Many religious texts support this power differential.
If that was such a major factor why then do men who attend church at least once a month assault their wives at less than 1/5 the level of men that never attend church?

Why and how do christian churches dramatically lower intimate partner violence?
 
If that was such a major factor why then do men who attend church at least once a month assault their wives at less than 1/5 the level of men that never attend church?

Why and how do christian churches dramatically lower intimate partner violence?
One confounder is that the study which you mention here is from New Zealand (which had less IPV in church goers compared to non goers) and Chiefs study was from USA. And from the trump thread we can conclude that US people and culture are not the same comparatively to the New Zealand or the Australian culture. (Gun worship, fear of bible bashing types politically to name a couple)
 
Rubbish secular humanism wasnt a thing till the mid 1800s. Our christian culture had its roots in luther erasmus and tyndale through enlightment of hobbes locke kant rousseau smith decartes ; the revolutions in france and the us etc. Yes it was anti catholic church but it was christian. As was the anti slavery movement.

This is such a melange of spectacularly ahistorical nonsense that it would take literally pages to unravel it.

However, I must admit that I would have loved to see the Monty Python take on, inter alia
- Luther as a proto-democrat, and
- the christian version of the French Revolution.
 
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One confounder is that the study which you mention here is from New Zealand (which had less IPV in church goers compared to non goers) and Chiefs study was from USA. And from the trump thread we can conclude that US people and culture are not the same comparatively to the New Zealand or the Australian culture. (Gun worship, fear of bible bashing types politically to name a couple)

The US study which forms only one of the references in the article is also about evangelical churches. It is relevant given the growth of these styles of cults in Australia.


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The US study which forms only one of the references in the article is also about evangelical churches. It is relevant given the growth of these styles of cults in Australia.


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Hillsong springs to mind as unable to take any criticism or scrutiny and the appalling bullying of anybody who dares.
 
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If that was such a major factor why then do men who attend church at least once a month assault their wives at less than 1/5 the level of men that never attend church?

Why and how do christian churches dramatically lower intimate partner violence?

Maybe it's to do with them being occupied for more of the time? If you compare a more active couple in the community (any community) to one that stays at home and in each others' faces then you'd likely find the more active couple don't have quite as much time to devote to domestic unrest.

You could throw in a whole heap of factors like unemployment, alcohol and drug use, other financial pressures but to my mind it boils down to the fact that dividing your social focus between a multitude of things can be better than focussing on a singular, negative thing like participating in domestic violence.
 
Hillsong springs to mind as unable to take any criticism or scrutiny and the appalling bullying of anybody who dares.
The father of the father was a predator!
Tax that s**t into oblivion!
False profiteering!
 

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How about religions like Taoism or Bhuddism where inspection of the body, mind and nature is the most important practise? Without intimate knowledge of these things how is chucking these thing all in the bin with radical Islam anything less than moronic?

Yes radical Islam and Buddhism, cant believe nothing was done.

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Destroyed by Islam after 400 Imams agreed in Afghanistan, they had been there for 1,700 years.
 
Whaaa? Did the Anglicans really do that? When was this atrocity?

During the 16th century, starting with the dissolution of the monasteries, and continuing with subsequent waves of iconoclasm through the Reformation, 90% (maybe more) of the nation's religious art was destroyed, together with massive losses of books and music.
 
1788-present day, Australia.

And they were penny ante fiddlers, of course, compared with the Catholic destroyers in central and southern America.

Though I rather like the way the Mexicans, in particular, managed to hide some of their idols by sneaking them inside the new Catholic ones in the churches.:D
 
During the 16th century, starting with the dissolution of the monasteries, and continuing with subsequent waves of iconoclasm through the Reformation, 90% (maybe more) of the nation's religious art was destroyed, together with massive losses of books and music.

500 years ago ?.
 
That's right, there are significant similarities in the historical curves of christianity and the 500-years younger islam.

The real worry is that evangelical Christianity and biblical literalism wants to lead the west once again down the path the self-destruction. Western Europe only emerged from it in the last 2-300 years, Islam went down that path in the 1200s and never recovered. Is it the dawn of a new dark age, or can the west recover?
 

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