2007 NBA Draft

[AndSmithMustScore]

Because that would also encourage tanking. If there was a game difference between 3rd or 4th worst record, I would bet the team would go out and throw a game to guarantee themselves a top 3 pick rather than risk ending up 6th. Not to mention the possibility of landing the top pick.

I always have to laugh at the whole tanking premice.

As a basketballer there's notthing i hated more than losing.

And i also know basketball contains some of the biggest egos in the world, thus i find it hard to fathom alot of them would even considering trying to lose.

But its obviously the system they use and will keep.

Too bad their system means The West just got a hell of alot stronger and the East just fell further behind.

 

[Stiffy_18]

I always have to laugh at the whole tanking premice.

As a basketballer there's notthing i hated more than losing.

And i also know basketball contains some of the biggest egos in the world, thus i find it hard to fathom alot of them would even considering trying to lose.

But its obviously the system they use and will keep.

Too bad their system means The West just got a hell of alot stronger and the East just fell further behind.

No one here is suggesting that players go out to tank. They would NEVER do that. Too much pride. But organizations put restrictions in place to tank. If a player has an injury that he could play with in the play offs, they will send him off to recuperate and end the season if neccessary (See Bucks).

Coaches, at the request of management will also engineer ways to lose by simply cutting minutes to star players and playing the kids and unknowns. Sacramento started this but WAY WAY too late. You guys have done it. Memphis have done it, Bucks have done it, Wolves have done it. Every team out of the play-off contention do it.

Spurs did it for one season when they had all those injuries and ended up with a player and have won multiple titles because of it.

Its a cyclic thing. West has been strong for some time now but why is that? Its not all to do with the lottery. From one draft, east got LeBron (1), Milicic (2), Bosh (4) and Wade (5) but they are still weaker. Its got more to do with competency of the organizations than it does with "rigged" lottery.

 

[Stiffy_18]

as for the Suns, they just need to keep the team they have. nothing else.

this team is good enough to win it all, sadly in three seasons this team hasn't had the chance to win it all. a fair run at the title with the full team in just one of the three seasons and who knows?

**** Garnett/anyone else.

Marion stays.

If I was a Suns fan, I would be praying and hoping that our stingy owner realises he has a good thing and keeps the team together.

However, I get the feeling that some $12 million is a lot of luxury tax to pay in one year so if I was a betting man I think you will make a deal (possibly Diaw) BUT I would be getting nervous about rumours that it could be Amare that gets shopped. If that happens your front office has officially lost it!

 

[Osmodiar]

NBA have one of the best drafting systems in any sport IMO. Afl should take a real good look at it

but at the end of the day, its the picks in the late first round/second round that can matter the most.

 

[Crow-mo]

If people think that drafting Conley at 3 is too high would the Hawks trade down to 5 so the Celtics get to pick who they want after the big 2 and the Hawks get their much needed PG?

FFS conley is a 6'0 point guard, that ain't no no.3 pick in a strong draft.

 

[Thewlis Dish]

Dallas got Josh Howard at 29. Seattle got Rashard Lewis at 32. Milwaukee got Michael Redd at 42. Gilbert Arenas went in the 40s, Carlos Boozer in the 30s. All All-Stars. Drik went 8, Amare dropped to 9, Pierce dropped to 10 etc. It's only when there is a can't miss superstar or two that people whinge about the draft lottery system. Otherwise it comes down to scouting, judgement and luck.

Boston could have had Brandon Roy last year, but instead opted for Telfair and a salary dump.

Amd FWIW, that is the first time since the lottery was introduced that the worst three teams have all missed a top three pick.

Looking at all the contenders in the league, San Antonio is the only one who is really built around draft luck, and even they have surrounded Duncan with Parker (pick 28) and Ginobili, who went second round.

 

[apollo_creed]

Is it famous?

 

[jerry springer]

christ portland will be good in 3 years

 

[Stiffy_18]

FFS conley is a 6'0 point guard, that ain't no no.3 pick in a strong draft.

Agreed! If he was more rounded as a player then why not but if Atlanta take him @ 3 they have gone bonkers.

I still think they trade down to pick either Conley or a Hibbert/Hawes and use pick 11 on either C or PG depending on what they get previously.

 

[Thewlis Dish]

In some ways Atlanta would almost prefer having picks 7/8 instead of 3/11. Getting Conley and Hawes would represent a great draft for them, but 3 is too high for both and there's no guarantee either will be there at 11.

Brandan Wright seems to be the consensus third pick but is he really that much of an upgrade on Marvin Williams, who they used a top two pick on? Taking Horford could make Shelden Williams expendable (another top five pick) and 3 may be too high for Noah.

If any team is in a prime position to trade it's certainly Atlanta. A shame Ridnour had such a poor season given they were reportedly interested in him this time the last two years, as Ridnour and 31 for 11 could have made sense. But certainly not now, Luke's stock is extremely low and fair enough.

 

[Stiffy_18]

In some ways Atlanta would almost prefer having picks 7/8 instead of 3/11. Getting Conley and Hawes would represent a great draft for them, but 3 is too high for both and there's no guarantee either will be there at 11.

Brandan Wright seems to be the consensus third pick but is he really that much of an upgrade on Marvin Williams, who they used a top two pick on? Taking Horford could make Shelden Williams expendable (another top five pick) and 3 may be too high for Noah.

If any team is in a prime position to trade it's certainly Atlanta. A shame Ridnour had such a poor season given they were reportedly interested in him this time the last two years, as Ridnour and 31 for 11 could have made sense. But certainly not now, Luke's stock is extremely low and fair enough.

Those are exactly the reasons why I think Atlanta will look to trade down with a team in the 6-10 range to try and get their PG and C.

I am hoping that Petrie is putting in a phone call or two to Billy Knights because we certainly would need a PF. That would obviously depend on whether or not Conley Or Hawes / Hibbert are there at 10. Then again, McHale is always on a look out for a quick fix to please KG so I wouldn't be surprised if he is shopping that pick for a rready made player. He might just be dumb enough to take on Artest

EDIT: This makes things very interesting

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/22/AR2007052201624.html

Georgetown juniors Jeff Green and Roy Hibbert will announce whether they will remain in the NBA draft at a news conference this afternoon, and according to a source with knowledge of the situation, Hibbert will be returning to the Hoyas for his senior season.

 

[Crow-mo]

This is why i hate this system of drafting and i hope it never comes to the AFL.

Memphis deserved/needed the best player out there to help them more so than a side like Portland with their good young core of players.

In other words a team thats already better than Memphis by a bit just got a shitload better than them.

I guess the NBA system isn't about equalizing teams.

stop whinging.
the entitlement complex gone wrong isn't going to win any friends.

it is not about deserve, and I think you've badly misunderstood the concept of equalisation in AFL terms - it isn't about everyone having their turn. geez I'm sicking of people parroting that idea like it's suddenly.

equalisation is simply about stopping the rich teams getting too far ahead of everyone, it is not about giving everyone a turn at the top. you might have noticed that all it has done is give the lower level teams the chance to fill out the 8.

 

[Crow-mo]

But answer this one simple question with a one word team answer.

Who needed/deseved the #1 pick more, Memphis or Portland?.

who about you explain where you got this idea of "deserved" from?

 

[AndSmithMustScore]

In some ways Atlanta would almost prefer having picks 7/8 instead of 3/11. Getting Conley and Hawes would represent a great draft for them, but 3 is too high for both and there's no guarantee either will be there at 11.

Brandan Wright seems to be the consensus third pick but is he really that much of an upgrade on Marvin Williams, who they used a top two pick on? Taking Horford could make Shelden Williams expendable (another top five pick) and 3 may be too high for Noah.

If any team is in a prime position to trade it's certainly Atlanta. A shame Ridnour had such a poor season given they were reportedly interested in him this time the last two years, as Ridnour and 31 for 11 could have made sense. But certainly not now, Luke's stock is extremely low and fair enough.

Depending on who you read Yi is also on alot of peoples radars as being the 3rd best player in the draft.

Though with these age issues he might become a big talking point leading up to the draft.

But at 7ft and with Yao comparisons some teams might not be able to resist passing him up early on.

 

[Crow-mo]

I think you are rating Boston and Memphis too kindly.

Memphis have more than a few broken veterans and not much depth.

Boston has young players, but that doesnt neccesarily make them a good side.

I really think this system of draft isnt one that cares about making a league more competitive and even.

Because in those areas is fails badly.

what you're really saying, is a thinly veiled complaint that you didn't get what you wanted for christmas.

 

[Crow-mo]

actually im a spurs fan, just jumping on the portland bandwagon

well that's something to be proud of

 

[Kenny_01]

Portland are gonna be scary

Roy
Webster
Aldridge
Randolph
Oden

Both Durant and Oden will both head West, the Eastern Conference falls even further behind.

They'll definitely trade Randolph sooner or later. His back to basket won't suit their style.

 

[matty p]

They'll definitely trade Randolph sooner or later. His back to basket won't suit their style.

The only problem is that it will place a huge responsibility on Oden and Aldridge. They might keep him for 1 more year just so they have 3 big man options for the moment.

 

[AndSmithMustScore]

what you're really saying, is a thinly veiled complaint that you didn't get what you wanted for christmas.

Not really.

If you read what i'd predicted i always said i had a feeling we'd land around pick 4.

So i was right.

Of course i'd have loved to get a top pick, but i never thought we would.

 

[LukeHodge15]

Not really.

If you read what i'd predicted i always said i had a feeling we'd land around pick 4.

So i was right.

Of course i'd have loved to get a top pick, but i never thought we would.

I think u are missing the point.

U whinging about not getting a 1 or 2 pick in the draft when ur team did have a few injurys during the year ( So in essence u are a better team than ur 2nd worst record showed ) Is that what u are saying ??? Just to clarify

 

[MeeSo]

It's a pity the West is now even stronger but happy to see Portland get the no 1. Pretty amazing turnaround for the blazers.

 

[AndSmithMustScore]

I think u are missing the point.

U whinging about not getting a 1 or 2 pick in the draft when ur team did have a few injurys during the year ( So in essence u are a better team than ur 2nd worst record showed ) Is that what u are saying ??? Just to clarify

Umm hello i wasn't talking about us, iv'e been talking mainly about Memphis.

Yes we had injuries, was our position a true indication of our talent? who can tell by when you finish last in the worst division in the worst conference of the NBA it tends to suggest you aren't very good.

 

[LukeHodge15]

Umm hello i wasn't talking about us, iv'e been talking mainly about Memphis.

Yes we had injuries, was our position a true indication of our talent? who can tell by when you finish last in the worst division in the worst conference of the NBA it tends to suggest you aren't very good.

U first say that u were mainly talking about Memphis, but then u couldnt help urself with ur last line about the Celts..........LOL

 

[AndSmithMustScore]

U first say that u were mainly talking about Memphis, but then u couldnt help urself with ur last line about the Celts..........LOL

My point about the Celtics is who knows how shit or good we are?

Maybe fit a fully fit sqaud we'd have won the division.

Or maybe we really aren't any good

 

[Thewlis Dish]

Maybe you'd have won more games if you didn't sit your starters at the start of the fourth with a lead?