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Opinion 2011 Top 50

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Good list mate, from the Saints I would say that Fisher has been a standout for us and without him we would be doing a lot worse then what we already are. I'd also have Gwilt above Dal Santo in your list but apart from that I agree with your thoughts.

Also in regards to Frawley, unfortunately he still butchers it a lot when coming out of the defence which for me is a big weakness in his game
 
AUSSIE GUN said:
Surkin > tap_my_scott

Still rate Rivers ahead of Frawley so far. Martin as well.

Frawley is closing but still around 7thish best player for Melbourne this year.
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rubbish

Did you even watch Frawley on the weekend? Absolutrely smahsed the alleged superstar Jack Riewddolt. Completely destroyed him.

Frawley has been great all year, he is by far a better backman than half the blokes in your list.


Too say Rivers has been better is laughable.

The best 3 players this year for the Demons have been Sylvia, Moloney and Frawley.
 

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If Lecras keeps his form up for the rest of the year he should well and truly be in the top 50. Missed the first 4 games but is still 10th in the goal kicking (while playing alot more in the midfield then last year, and also not being the number one target inside 50 now with Kennedy, Lynch and Darling all having good years) he is also averging 17 touches a game, 4 tackles and 4 I50 a game.

If he can kick a furthur 25-30 goals in the last 9 games he might even push AA again which would be sesational considering he was ment to miss half the season to that groin injury
 
Yes, LeCras has bounced back from that injury very well and could still give 50 goals a shake playing predominantly as a midfielder. Amazing really, given he was either out or returning from injury in the first 2 months of the season. Would need more BOG's to be an AA chance though.

Glass would be in my 50 as well.
 
Griffen and the bulldogs dominant again last night that would be his third bog in as many games. However these have all been again lower quality teams so in order to break into the top 10 and for the bulldogs to be truly tested they will have to bring it against carlton this week.
 
I don't think the opposition is too big of a deal. Griffen wouldn't be out of place in the top 10 now. One of the best big game players in my mind anyway. Has been brilliant in most of the finals games I've seen from him.
 
How would you have the top 10 now, for curiosity's sake?
Last time you posted it was a couple of weeks ago, you said:
1 Marc Murphy (Carlton)
2 Scott Pendlebury (Collingwood)
3 Gary Ablett (Gold Coast)
4 Lance Franklin (Hawthorn)
5 Chris Judd (Carlton)
6 Dean Cox (West Coast)
7 Sam Mitchell (Hawthorn)
8 Jobe Watson (Essendon)
9 Dale Thomas (Collingwood)
10 Joel Selwood (Geelong)

Griffen could well take Watson's spot in the top 10 due to his injury, or Selwood's due to his suspension since then.
 
AUSSIE GUN said:
I don't think the opposition is too big of a deal. Griffen wouldn't be out of place in the top 10 now. One of the best big game players in my mind anyway. Has been brilliant in most of the finals games I've seen from him.
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Game against Collingwood in the finals last year, simply superb.
 

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DVD Player said:
Game against Collingwood in the finals last year, simply superb.
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not questioning his ability to perform in the big games, just in regards to this particular season for him to solidify himself in the top 10 and to go infront of other quality players on this list, games like next week against carlton are perfect oppurtunities.
 
Phaze Away said:
How would you have the top 10 now, for curiosity's sake?
Last time you posted it was a couple of weeks ago, you said:
1 Marc Murphy (Carlton)
2 Scott Pendlebury (Collingwood)
3 Gary Ablett (Gold Coast)
4 Lance Franklin (Hawthorn)
5 Chris Judd (Carlton)
6 Dean Cox (West Coast)
7 Sam Mitchell (Hawthorn)
8 Jobe Watson (Essendon)
9 Dale Thomas (Collingwood)
10 Joel Selwood (Geelong)

Griffen could well take Watson's spot in the top 10 due to his injury, or Selwood's due to his suspension since then.
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I'll try and do the list this week but it might have to wait another week. Then I'll be fine to do it weekly for the rest of the year.

1. Murphy
2. Pendlebury
3. Ablett
4. Cox
5. Mitchell

Judd, Thompson, Griffen, Thomas, Franklin and Wells would be the next 6, unsure of the order. Selwood and Watson will fall due to injury/suspension.
 
Ablett will go 2nd if Pendlebury doesn't have a good game. Maybe he should be 1st and I'm just marking him a bit harshly due to GC's position on the ladder.

Last night:

Thompson was good but nothing special. Has played plenty better games this year but will hold his position. Johncock was outstanding and Rutten solid. Those three are head and shoulders above the next Adelaide player this year. All three wouldn't be out of place on the actual list.

Bolton arguably our best again. Ridiculous season considering after last years finals series some Swans fans thought it might be a good time to retire. I was one who thought he was gone after last year, yet he could be AA at the end of this season.

O'Keefe and Goodes in our best but that was of a bad bunch. Goodes in danger of falling off the list. Having a decent year but in the 40's at best.

Have seen bits of the Tigers/Blues. Judd and Murphy just keep rolling along. Scotland was fairly quiet. One of the worst midfield performances for the year from the Tigers so it's hard to say anything positive about Cotchin and Martin. Deledio was probably best of the three from what I saw but that's not saying much.

Mitch Robinson is having a handy year as well. Something not quite right about him but he is a maniac. Similar to Thomas in that he doesn't have the size to be able to take the hits but they both have a thirst for being nut jobs on the field. They just go into a frenzied state of mind once they see the ball.
 
AUSSIE GUN said:
Mitch Robinson is having a handy year as well. Something not quite right about him but he is a maniac. Similar to Thomas in that he doesn't have the size to be able to take the hits but they both have a thirst for being nut jobs on the field. They just go into a frenzied state of mind once they see the ball.
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It's the lack of a neck and those beady, dead eyes. :D

Have to say, he's surprised at how much his improved since he's moved into the midfield. Always been maniacal but now has some smarts about him.

Averaging 29 possessions, 0.8 goals and a ridiculous number of reckless acts over the past 5 weeks, which is an excellent return from a 3rd year player. Granted, the opposition has been pretty average and it'll be interesting to see if he can maintain it against decent opposition, but he's been in our top 5 players over that period.
 
AUSSIE GUN said:
Ablett will go 2nd if Pendlebury doesn't have a good game. Maybe he should be 1st and I'm just marking him a bit harshly due to GC's position on the ladder.

Last night:

Thompson was good but nothing special. Has played plenty better games this year but will hold his position. Johncock was outstanding and Rutten solid. Those three are head and shoulders above the next Adelaide player this year. All three wouldn't be out of place on the actual list.

Bolton arguably our best again. Ridiculous season considering after last years finals series some Swans fans thought it might be a good time to retire. I was one who thought he was gone after last year, yet he could be AA at the end of this season.

O'Keefe and Goodes in our best but that was of a bad bunch. Goodes in danger of falling off the list. Having a decent year but in the 40's at best.

Have seen bits of the Tigers/Blues. Judd and Murphy just keep rolling along. Scotland was fairly quiet. One of the worst midfield performances for the year from the Tigers so it's hard to say anything positive about Cotchin and Martin. Deledio was probably best of the three from what I saw but that's not saying much.

Mitch Robinson is having a handy year as well. Something not quite right about him but he is a maniac. Similar to Thomas in that he doesn't have the size to be able to take the hits but they both have a thirst for being nut jobs on the field. They just go into a frenzied state of mind once they see the ball.
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Sounds about right. Although Judd was BOG yesterday and much better than Murphy.

I would imagine the top ten would look something like:

1. M. Murphy
2. S. Pendlebury
3. G. Ablett
4. C. Judd
5. D. Cox
6. S. Mitchell
7. L. Franklin
8. R. Griffen
9. N. Fyfe
10. J. Watson (probably drops out next week or two)

Others would be: Thomas, Selwood, Bolton and Thompson.

Or at least that is my thinking at the moment.

Murphy is the stand-out with 2-5 about even.
 
1. Murphy
2. Ablett
3. Pendlebury
4. Judd
5. Cox
6. Mitchell
7. Griffen
8. Franklin
9. Thomas
10. Wells

Set on the top 6. Unsure of the other 4's order.

Thompson, Fyfe, Kelly, McPharlin, Bolton, Priddis (bumping him up, had him too low), Cloke, Fisher, Swallow, Watson round out the top 20. Those 10 aren't in order.

Selwood will start to fall quickly now since he has missed 5 games. Including his first game which only went for a quarter. Might be too harsh to have him out of the top 20 already but if comes back and dominante then I'll be more forgiving for the games he missed.
 

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AUSSIE GUN said:
1. Murphy
2. Ablett
3. Pendlebury
4. Judd
5. Cox
6. Mitchell
7. Griffen
8. Franklin
9. Thomas
10. Wells

Set on the top 6. Unsure of the other 4's order.

Thompson, Fyfe, Kelly, McPharlin, Bolton, Priddis (bumping him up, had him too low), Cloke, Fisher, Swallow, Watson round out the top 20. Those 10 aren't in order.

Selwood will start to fall quickly now since he has missed 5 games. Including his first game which only went for a quarter. Might be too harsh to have him out of the top 20 already but if comes back and dominante then I'll be more forgiving for the games he missed.
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Good looking list and seeings as we only really differ in 9th-10th spot I approve. :thumbsu:
 
AUSSIE GUN said:
Ablett will go 2nd if Pendlebury doesn't have a good game. Maybe he should be 1st and I'm just marking him a bit harshly due to GC's position on the ladder.

Last night:

Thompson was good but nothing special. Has played plenty better games this year but will hold his position. Johncock was outstanding and Rutten solid. Those three are head and shoulders above the next Adelaide player this year. All three wouldn't be out of place on the actual list.

Bolton arguably our best again. Ridiculous season considering after last years finals series some Swans fans thought it might be a good time to retire. I was one who thought he was gone after last year, yet he could be AA at the end of this season.

O'Keefe and Goodes in our best but that was of a bad bunch. Goodes in danger of falling off the list. Having a decent year but in the 40's at best.

Have seen bits of the Tigers/Blues. Judd and Murphy just keep rolling along. Scotland was fairly quiet. One of the worst midfield performances for the year from the Tigers so it's hard to say anything positive about Cotchin and Martin. Deledio was probably best of the three from what I saw but that's not saying much.

Mitch Robinson is having a handy year as well. Something not quite right about him but he is a maniac. Similar to Thomas in that he doesn't have the size to be able to take the hits but they both have a thirst for being nut jobs on the field. They just go into a frenzied state of mind once they see the ball.
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Pendlebury had a very good game. Was probably BOG in first half when the game needed to be won.
 
AUSSIE GUN said:
One of the worst midfield performances for the year from the Tigers so it's hard to say anything positive about Cotchin and Martin. Deledio was probably best of the three from what I saw but that's not saying much.
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Only thing worth remarking about Martin is that he got the ball a fair few times in the back 50 and managed to give it to a player even further behind him.

Deledio got chopped up a lot this game. Got a bit of it himself but had Murphy and Judd at different stages of the game and, Judd particularly, burnt him off easily.

Cotchin's second half wasn't bad but the game was over. Thought he was one of Richmond's best (also seem to recall Rance and Jackson having good games).
 
jabbers said:
Pendlebury had a very good game. Was probably BOG in first half when the game needed to be won.
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Hence why I have him at no. 2. I don't think there's much between Pendlebury, Ablett, Judd and Mitchell at the moment. They are pretty interchangable in their positions.

Though Pendlebury started well there were a few better than him at the end. My thinking is:

3. L. Hodge (Haw)
2. B. Reid (Coll)
1. T. Cloke (Coll)

with Swan, Mitchell, Thomas, Shiels and Pendlebury the next line of players. I thought he had a good game but doubt whether it will get him BOG.
 
AUSSIE GUN said:
Didn't notice Pendlebury too much tbh.
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You know I reckon you're spot on most of the time AG, but in this case you needed to watch closer. Clear BOG for us in the first half when we smashed the Hawks.

The games where he has more handballs he tends to go a little more unnoticed, but they're his most effective games. If I have some time I'll put together a highlights thingy of Pendlebury's touches in this game and the outcomes, as plenty of Pies people seemed to have missed it also.
 

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