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The Nth Adelaide manager certainly gave him a huge wrap in Inside Footy; that they'd held him back from reserves only because of his undeveloped body.
Thx. I didn't get Inside Footy this year. He seems to be a sleeper to me. Maybe because both the S.A. Clubs only have 1 pick each in the first 45. 21(P.A) and 23(AD) might be a tad early and so no push coming out of S.A. circles.
 

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Can we just put this whole Thorp thing to bed.............for a while at least?

The situation is that some of us have been hearing things and in some cases seeing things that if true/are true wouldn't make him welcome at the CFC, at least.
No one wants to say what they know/have heard etc for one reason or another and to be fair, I'm glad we're not posting those things on this board.

There are clearly two camps here and will be for another 8 days at least when hopefully the whole thing will be settled.
If not next week though, then we'll have to put up with things until the Rookie Draft is done.

Let's try and forget Thorp for now and concentrate on what our more important first two picks may be.
I'm sorry harks you know I love you but it should be the people who have the "secret information" that paints thorpe as the anti-christ who in simple terms should "put up or shut up". Either post the reasons for not wanting him or let those who havent heard those rumours too discuss on the aspects that are clear to all. The facts of the matter.
 

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I'm sorry harks you know I love you but it should be the people who have the "secret information" that paints thorpe as the anti-christ who in simple terms should "put up or shut up". Either post the reasons for not wanting him or let those who havent heard those rumours too discuss on the aspects that are clear to all. The facts of the matter.

I probably shouldn't have posted what I did, as I may have just thrown fuel on the fire.

Let's put it this way then. We really have no control of who we will select over the course of the next two weeks and what happens happens, so in effect there is very little point getting all worked up Thorp or anyone else for that matter.
 

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I probably shouldn't have posted what I did, as I may have just thrown fuel on the fire.

Let's put it this way then. We really have no control of who we will select over the course of the next two weeks and what happens happens, so in effect there is very little point getting all worked up Thorp or anyone else for that matter.
I can agree with that :D
 

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I meant to say Rogers and Hughes were overruled by another person who is no longer with us.


I guess Ratten's logic was right to a point but what system did we have in place when the coach overrules the people that are charged with recruitment?

A coaches input is relative but shouldn't be the driving force in recruitment. Why even have recruiters if that's going to be the case. Just have observers. Cheaper.
 

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One can't blame Rowe for being taken too early. We only had 2 live selections in that draft thanks to clogging the list with fringe players on 2 year deals.

4 of the past 6 drafts (inc this one) we've taken only the bare minimum 3 picks.

At least this year it's been offset by 3 additions during the trade period.
 

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I guess Ratten's logic was right to a point but what system did we have in place when the coach overrules the people that are charged with recruitment?

A coaches input is relative but shouldn't be the driving force in recruitment. Why even have recruiters if that's going to be the case. Just have observers. Cheaper.
Harks just interested to understand your comment about the coaches input into recruitment. I would have thought that they have a large say on the type of player they want.
 

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Harks just interested to understand your comment about the coaches input into recruitment. I would have thought that they have a large say on the type of player they want.

They have a say in the types they want but they shouldn't be in the position to make a call on a player and if they can, then something may not be working as it should.
Good luck to Buckley pulling rank on Hine for instance.

It's fine for a coach to want an established player that he may have viewed at close range for some time but how could they possibly follow what happens in the TAC and like national leagues. Just wouldn't have the time to cover all the ground needed to make the judgement. That's what the recruiter and his network does.

Would welcome some informed advice on exactly how our system works though.
 

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They have a say in the types they want but they shouldn't be in the position to make a call on a player and if they can, then something may not be working as it should.
Good luck to Buckley pulling rank on Hine for instance.

It's fine for a coach to want an established player that he may have viewed at close range for some time but how could they possibly follow what happens in the TAC and like national leagues. Just wouldn't have the time to cover all the ground needed to make the judgement. That's what the recruiter and his network does.

Would welcome some informed advice on exactly how our system works though.


I reckon Mick's input into draftee's would be:

"I like players who perform in big games. Ok, bye...the rest is your job"
 

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I guess Ratten's logic was right to a point but what system did we have in place when the coach overrules the people that are charged with recruitment?

A coaches input is relative but shouldn't be the driving force in recruitment. Why even have recruiters if that's going to be the case. Just have observers. Cheaper.
The head coach's influence probably varies from club to club.

For mine the recruiters do all the grunt work (watching games/interviews/analysis) as the coach would never have the time but the recruiters aren't involved in game plan, development etc so unless the club's and the head coach's philosophy is best skills based player available at all times (which to me would be silly) the coach would and should be closely involved in recruitment in terms of who the club will go after come draft time.

Mick obviously took the lead with the Everitt and Thomas recruitments and I'd be very surprised if he wasn't right across the recruiters possibles at our picks. I'd go as far as to say he may even have had input in terms of order of preference.

Mick knows exactly what type of players he needs however the recruiting/scouting staff are there to ensure as many rocks are overturned as possible in the lead up to the draft and would then present a list.

Not saying Mick would have the only say but I reckon he'd go close to the final say.

Conversely a more junior coach without the runs on the board or a first time senior coach or a coach who's just been or about to be appointed (a la the Saints) may well defer to the head of recruiting.
 

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Mick obviously took the lead with the Everitt and Thomas recruitments and I'd be very surprised if he wasn't right across the recruiters possibles at our picks. I'd go as far as to say he may even have had input in terms of order of preference.

Mick knows exactly what type of players he needs however the recruiting/scouting staff are there to ensure as many rocks are overturned as possible in the lead up to the draft and would then present a list.

Not saying Mick would have the only say but I reckon he'd go close to the final say.
I should have said drafting and not recruiting.
It was in reference to Rowe coming to our club.

Mick would have had good input into the recruitment of at least Thomas and Everitt.
He may well be only 25% of the list management panel but he may just pull a little bit of rank there. :)
 

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I'm sorry harks you know I love you but it should be the people who have the "secret information" that paints thorpe as the anti-christ who in simple terms should "put up or shut up". Either post the reasons for not wanting him or let those who havent heard those rumours too discuss on the aspects that are clear to all. The facts of the matter.
So you want people who have what you call "secret information" to come out and post it on a public forum but until they tell you every little detail it's easier to bury your head in the sand and believe rumours rather than accept what you are told from people that you acknowledge have this "secret information".

It really is no wonder there isn't much information shared on these boards any more if this is the kind of....... stuff they get in return.
 
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