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Analysis 2014-2015 tactical changes

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I think everyone would agree that we're doing a few things a bit differently this year.

People (even Ken) have repeatedly said that the inside 50 differential is something we really, really need to work on and correct. While I agree in general, I feel that it's been a deliberate move this year to soak up pressure and get everyone on the field in our back half so we can launch counter attacks.

The zone that we set up through the middle parts of the ground, that was reasonably effective in causing turnovers last year, has seemingly disappeared. We play a zone through the middle of the field reminiscent of the Choco days, what I like to call the "feel bad zone", where we feel bad and so give them an easy option up the field.

How many times did we seemingly have West Coast forced to kick to a contest yesterday, only for them to spot up a short to medium range leading target? It was infuriating. It was Choco/Primus era infuriating.

This all changes when we get to our defensive 50, and all of a sudden our zone seems to click and teams will have a lot more difficulty moving the ball. Theoretically there, the ball hits the ground, it's gathered by one of our back six and dished off to our runners.

As I said, I believe that this is a deliberate tactic, no different to a soccer counter attack style.

It's hit and miss, because trying to launch up the field is high risk high reward, and quite often we turn it over with the first kick out of the 50, but that's okay, because we're already set up to defend the subsequent kick in.

When it works, and we get the likes of Ebert, White, Mitchell, Boak involved, it is basically unstoppable.

Of course, to be effective, it requires you to work. You need to get more players at the drop of the ball, more players to the contest, more players everywhere. If the ball is hitting the ground and waiting for it are 3 opposition players, as with yesterday, you're in trouble.

West Coast were seemingly aware of this, and the second we had the ball in our own defensive 50, they had 6 or 7 players prepared to drop all the way back into our 50 and cut off the kick. They were prepared to leave their men, because they knew we were going long and direct. A chippy Hawthorn style doesn't suit us, and while it would have cut apart what West Coast were doing, we never made the adjustment. Often we didn't utilise the switch when we had Broadbent or Krakouer wide open and with acres of space on the opposite flank. We just went long and direct, over and over again to a forwardline where we were usually massively outnumbered.

Now, the slingshot is devastatingly effective when we execute it well. It's unstoppable when we execute it well. But West Coast yesterday came prepared, and pretty much set up all day waiting for us to slingshot. We need to be able to effectively move the ball up the field under pressure if opposition sides have parked 3 loose players in our forward 50. We need to be able to utilise the switch better than we did, obviously we need to be able to execute better than we did all over. We need to get the likes of Hammer, Broadbent and Pittard to ping some long goals early to open up the forward line. We need teams to be worried about things other than the switch.

It was all well and good recruiting Ryder, but with the gameplan we seem to be trying to execute at the moment, we're not making the most of our forward options. We all went into that game thinking that our tall forward line was going to dominate, but West Coast were ready and completely negated the effectiveness of our inside 50s.

Also, quickly, on clearances. A lot of us talked last week about how there are clearances, then there are clearances. We won the clearance stat yesterday, which for anyone who watched the game would be funny if it wasn't so frustrating. We were absolutely destroyed by the work of their inside midfielders and their clearances were a lot cleaner. They waltzed it out of stoppages too many times. I think we really miss the work of Wines in there, because not only does he throw his body around, but he reads the play and knows where to be. Priddis absolutely destroyed us. 3 votes. Boak completely unsighted for most of the game. That was a big difference. If you're winning clearances, teams can't set up any sort of defence. We got absolutely slaughtered.

I'm not sure if it's just Ollie missing or what, but on paper we should have smashed West Coast's midfield. They outworked us and out positioned us all day. They were cleaner and found the footy. When the couldn't find it, they locked it down and generated another clearance. Workrate.
 
Great post El_Scorcho. Interesting that we didn't switch the ball when we had the chance, probably out of fear of the forward line getting too congested.

I think we needed to take shots from outside 50 much more often. Yeah they are lower percentage, but many players should be around a 50-50 chance from outside 50 depending on the wind and angle (maybe the wind was why we didn't go for it more often?).

My main questions are whether we actually need to give up to much field position? Did we under utilise the handball in our defensive 50? And how much of our midfield being down is due to Ollie Wines?

I think we play our best when we go full pelt and throw everything at getting the ball up forward, playing "brave" footy if you will. When its not working, or we simply have to play less aggressive we seem to run into trouble.
 
Why on paper should we have smashed West Coast in clearances? On paper and in reality we have no real dominance over them. Nick Nat is top 6 or so for hitouts and to advantage, Pridis is a clearance machine like Gray, Shuey's numbers stack up with Boak's and Nick Nat is pretty good at clearing the ball. We have a better group than them but we arent a Usain Bolt to their Johathan Ross.
 
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If this really is our idea, then it's a poor one. In soccer, weaker teams use the counter attack away from home because they know they won't have the majority of the play but also know how ****ing hard it is to score when you've got 10 people plus a goalkeeper in such a confined space when everyone on the field can easily adjust to where the ball is going, knowing that the opposition can only move the ball on by head or foot. In football, the large 360 degree field of movement, coupled with the ability to move the ball by hand or foot very rapidly, means that giving up these entries on the expectation of counter attacking on a turnover is fraught with danger. Especially when you consider that football, unlike soccer, doesn't have an offside rule.

If you look at our games against Hawthorn and Adelaide, our success in using this tactic came from our ability to direct those defensive 50 entries to certain key spots. The Adelaide game especially we funnelled all their attacks to the boundary and then switched the play to either the centre or the opposing flank. Using the boundary as another defender, as it were, is a decent strategy for defence. But only if we are playing against an opposition that doesn't dominate the hitouts.

The evolution of tiki-taka possession based soccer came from the necessity to find a way around teams that had greater height and strength (English style) to which the long ball, route one method of attack was most appealing. English defenders are conditioned to repel aerial, long ball assaults, but fast, quick movement is a concern.

What we need to do is draw those defenders out of position by moving the ball up the field in a slow, methodical way. We were up by 18 points at the half - at that stage, it's not up to us to keep continually pressing. We HAVE the lead. Just keep moving the ball around in the backline/midfield until West Coast are forced to bring some numbers to the ball, then go hard. Once that happens, the score starts ticking over again, and suddenly the Eagles can't run back to defend because they have to attack to win the game.

Our main problem comes from trying to force things instead of letting them come naturally. In soccer, in American football, ****, in any sport where there are defined formations and tactics, coaches and players know that sometimes you need to adjust your game style to the conditions, whether they be from the opposition or the elements. Teams are going to do this flooding tactic from now on, so our run and gun style - our Plan A - will need to be shelved until we can force them out of their Plan A.

As for kicking from outside 50 - what happens when those three spare players are open from a kick in if we miss? No, the best strategy is to draw them out by making them accountable for a man when we push forward. And again, that requires slower, more methodical movement.

We've got to the stage where teams are adjusting their preferred tactics against us. Now we need to adjust to those, knowing that we will run when we have the chance, and you'll see unstoppable football.
 

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Why on paper should we have smashed West Coast in clearances? On paper and in reality we have no real dominance over them. Nick Nat is top 6 or so for hitouts and to advantage, Pridis is a clearance machine like Gray, Shuey's numbers stack up with Boak's and Nick Nat is pretty good at clearing the ball. We have a better group than them but we arent a Usain Bolt to their Johathan Ross.

Our first string mids should be better clearance players than theirs, and we should have a lot more depth. I'm not saying it's men against boys, but it's an area where i'd have thought we'd have a clear advantage. We got smashed.
 
The 'Slingshot' 'Pagan's Paddock' style game plan has now become predictable and ineffective. Where's our plan B, C, D when it all turns to shit? The best football our club has ever produced under Hinkley was not the 1st quarter v the Hawks in round 4, rather it was the final 10 minutes of footy our side produced in last years Prelim. It was absolutely breathtaking 100% pure football. We took the game on at all costs, running in wave after wave, making the best side in the competition look second rate. We had nothing to lose in those final minutes and everything to gain and it showed in the way we played. What the f*** has happened this year, where has that spirit gone?
 
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I'm not good with analysis & all that stuff so this was an interesting write up. Thanks :)
whatever they've changed, go back!
 
Our first string mids should be better clearance players than theirs, and we should have a lot more depth. I'm not saying it's men against boys, but it's an area where i'd have thought we'd have a clear advantage. We got smashed.

You said
I'm not sure if it's just Ollie missing or what, but on paper we should have smashed West Coast's midfield
The stats show our best 2 vs their best 2, there is nothing in it. Our number 3 Ollie is out. So on paper there is nothing in it because on paper Ollie isnt playing. Yes our next 4 or so are better than their next 4 or so, but it isnt that big a gap for a smashing. We won the clearances 38 v 33, centre clearances 11 v 9 and at stoppages 27 v 24. Now raw numbers are useless without knowing the quality of those clearances.
 
I have a sneaking suspicion we are foxing a little.

Doesn't make it any less frustrating.
If we are, then we are ****en stupid. I dont think Ken is stupid - stubborn maybe but not stupid.
 
You said
I'm not sure if it's just Ollie missing or what, but on paper we should have smashed West Coast's midfield
The stats show our best 2 vs their best 2, there is nothing in it. Our number 3 Ollie is out. So on paper there is nothing in it because on paper Ollie isnt playing. Yes our next 4 or so are better than their next 4 or so, but it isnt that big a gap for a smashing. We won the clearances 38 v 33, centre clearances 11 v 9 and at stoppages 27 v 24. Now raw numbers are useless without knowing the quality of those clearances.

The empirical evidence says the quality of our clearances was very poor, especially in relation to theirs.

Even without Ollie, we have a better midfield than they have. Both Boak and Gray are better players on paper than Priddis, and both are way, way ahead of the likes of Shuey and Gaff. Add in Hartlett, Wingard, Cornes and the rest, and even with Ollie and Polec out, we should have them covered.

Unfortunately for us, footy isn't played on paper, but our on-paper credentials took a big hit on the night anyway, and West Coast took a big step up.
 
The empirical evidence says the quality of our clearances was very poor, especially in relation to theirs.

Even without Ollie, we have a better midfield than they have. Both Boak and Gray are better players on paper than Priddis, and both are way, way ahead of the likes of Shuey and Gaff. Add in Hartlett, Wingard, Cornes and the rest, and even with Ollie and Polec out, we should have them covered.

Unfortunately for us, footy isn't played on paper, but our on-paper credentials took a big hit on the night anyway, and West Coast took a big step up.
Boak and Gray maybe better footballers than Pridis and Shuey, but their clearance work isnt that much better. You have around the ground ability mixed up with stoppage work.
 

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When we played the crows, we took the ball from defence with devastating effect. The 'slingshot' was started by players such as Ebert, with 'brave' football...passing into dangerous areas with trust that your team mates would run into those areas. It broke the crows open and we capitalised on it. Yesterday, I could see players wanting to play the same way, especially when the game was there to be won, but it seemed that the cohesion was missing. Second guessing, hesitant passes that came unstuck. Clumsiness that usually isn't there. Nobody seemed switched on, not even Gray
 
not sure whats going on but we have lost our run and carry, our structures our bold attacking aggressive style that won us alot of respect, we have also lost that mental edge we had built up over other sides the last two years regarding our fitness level and ability to run sides off their feet late in games, forget that, its gone.
after the bulldogs win last year ken was asked if he liked the way the port run out the game until the end really finished the game off strong, (winning by 70 odd after being down early) kens response was all i was looking at is their score, 54 points, thats good. all i was interested in was our defensive efforts. thats ok, but have they gone too far, been too defense orientated, has the flair and boldness been coached out of the side with this overwhelming desire to be a strong defensive side. our forward set up is non existant to abysmal at best, our chippy chippy game style has been evident at both afl and sanfl levels this year.
last year, the power and the maggies were both playing the same way, both were free flowing high scoring attacking great sides to watch, both were top of the ladder. this year both are playing the same shocking brand of footy, same chippy rubbish, same horrible ball movement and forward set up, both are mid pack where they belong. not sure what brought about the change, but i dont like what ive been seeing so far this year.
 
Sometimes I just don't feel as if we are good enough to play a possession game and make the other team work around us. I just can't trust our players to torture the other team with these little chip kicks and big switches until we lock up a target in our forward 50. We seem to be basing our game this year around what we do when we don't have the ball - this revolves around leading into space, pushing everyone right up into our forward half of the ground and exposing the wing with our blistering pace, which is why Polec is such a massive loss for us. We seem to rely on waiting for the other team to get the ball before we act ourselves, which resulted in our domination of the tackle stat 96-59. I think our main concern is that we aren't getting first hands on the ball and that is because we haven't been able to put Lobbe and Wines into the same side this year. We just need to do some of the simpler things right and stick to playing Port Adelaide football.
 

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Our skills are still garbage hence why we need to concede goals when we cant get out of the press so we can restart in the middle.. every time we try pinpoint passes there's a turnover.. 8/10 eagles goals came from poor turnovers
 
Subbing out fit blokes and leaving injured blokes out there is an interesting tactic.

Is that shades of 80% of this bloke is better than 100% of this other bloke thinking?
 
Is that shades of 80% of this bloke is better than 100% of this other bloke thinking?

****ed if I know you would have to ask Kern.

Make a point to the lad but punishing the club is a bit rough.
 
Our problem for most of this year has been the second or third kick/handball coming out of defence or after a stoppage.

Not enough options and we stuffed up by being to clever rather than going for the obvious give. Being too clever might have something to do with players being used to having multiple options in the past.
 
All the tactical theories/changes and all the tactical geniuses under the sun mean jack shit if your players don't give every ounce of what they have at all times during the game and that is what let us down against the cows (even though we won) and against the WCE.

You cannot "take a breather" and hand momentum over to the opposition and then think it's just a matter of flicking a switch and you are back on top. That's not the way we have been doing it since Ken arrived and it has nothing to do with tactics but all to do with some rather "laid back" contributions dotted throughout the game.

These players of ours have got to understand and accept, that we aren't sneaking up on teams anymore. We aren't being taken lightly anymore. We have earned respect because of our great football ability and oppositions teams are going into games wanting to measure themselves against us: get used to it!!

That's what it means to be a top side, to be analysed, to be scrutinized to the nth degree. That's what has always happened to the great Port Adelaide sides and if our blokes want to be a great Port Adelaide side, the first thing they must always do is to attack every second of the game like it is the last day of their lives.
 

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