Mega Thread 2014 FA, Trades, Rumours and Facts (pre-draft thread).

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Hey Guys,

Hoping I can add some thought and insight with this post. Personally, I would be devastated to lose Redden. Needless to say Beams is the better player. However, whilst saying that I would not incorporate Redden into the trade. The article has no substance to it IMO and is just throwing Redden's name there for the sake of it from my point of view. No source to suggest anything of substance.

I think that the clubs need to involve a third party. It is unlikely that either club will compromise. This makes the Greenwood option so logical to me. He replaces Beams immediately and you would get pick 5 and potentially later picks.

Both clubs are within their rights to be reluctant to part with a valuable member of their respective teams.
We can just get Greenwood ourselves.
 

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Right now as we speak the Collingwood football club is working on poaching one of your players. In the next few days one of your guys is going to ask to be traded.
Schwab will save face because he can say "the player requested it, if he hadn't we would not have let him go" and we will get our man.
What does it take to stop your supporters from being delusional. Everything has a price an in order to get it you pay the price.
We are not about to sell you a pristine BMW for 19.99
If a player requests a trade I would trade them. No one is expecting Collingwood to trade Beams for nothing.
 

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Hey Guys,

Hoping I can add some thought and insight with this post. Personally, I would be devastated to lose Redden. Needless to say Beams is the better player. However, whilst saying that I would not incorporate Redden into the trade. The article has no substance to it IMO and is just throwing Redden's name there for the sake of it from my point of view. No source to suggest anything of substance.

I think that the clubs need to involve a third party. It is unlikely that either club will compromise. This makes the Greenwood option so logical to me. He replaces Beams immediately and you would get pick 5 and potentially later picks.

Both clubs are within their rights to be reluctant to part with a valuable member of their respective teams.
Hi Bert Man,

To use a basketball term this is a "slam dunk" for you guys. A gun player has chosen your team and you guys
do not want to "incorporate" player x...y....or z to get him.

He IS a gun do you guys understand that?

Time is ticking only for days to go.......Remeber 5pm Friday he can sweep the floors of the Westpac Centre for all I care in 2015.

P.S And he WAS my favourite player!
 

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Begin RANT- FA need to go or get heavily revised. Clubs hate it, but they still use it to there advantage, fairly sure the AFL would not really like it and fans hate it. It seams the only ones who are in favor of FA are the players.

The last time I checked if it where not for the fans the players would not be getting a dime, so maybe they should listen to the ones that pay their salaries a bit more. One of the great things about AFL is that historically we were able to put our favorite player's number on the back of our jumper and be fairly safe that they would be there for life. Just look at all of the kids in Collingwood jumpers who have Taylor Adams number.....sorry Dale Thomas. Don't get me wrong I fully understand the need for trades occurring, for both the sake of the club and the player, but seeing a player like Frawley leave Melbourne or Higgins leave the Western Bulldogs is bad for footy, great for the player and the new club in the hunt for premiership success, but bad for footy.

Paul Roos is right, it is the greatest un-equilization measure ever, players leaving struggling clubs to strong clubs means that clubs like Melbourne and StKilda will always be down the bottom, and the AFL could well turn out to be like the EPL with only a few strong clubs if things remain unchanged. The current system also penalizes other clubs not involved be pushing them further down in the trade period. Apart from scrapping it, which I don't think will occur the best system is ranking players and your force clubs to give up a certain round draft pick. ie this year instead of Melbourne getting draft pick 3 as compensation they get Hawthorns pick 18, maybe also give them the second round '36' pick as well.

end RANT.
we dont have a great historical record of keeping our heroes ... see Rene Kink, Peter McKenna , Billy Picken Peter Moore, Phil Carman Craig Stewart, Mark Williams, David Cloke Phillip Walsh Geoff Raines (yes he played for us) Bruce Abernathy Charlie Manson Craig Starcevich Mick McGuane Paul Williams JAson McCartney Sav Rocca.. i could go on and on and on
 

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If a player requests a trade I would trade them. No one is expecting Collingwood to trade Beams for nothing.
You see that is the problem. You guys are offering nothing. Collingwood supporters have come to terms with the fact he wants to leave. We just want fair compensation. FAIR. We are not trying to screw anyone. We just want FAIR compensation
 

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I see I am far from welcome. It would have been great to have a good discussion, a bit of shame.
Sorry Bert - but a few of your brethren than have posted here took a little less humble approach, so it's a bit frosty being a Lions supporter on these boards ATM.

Here is hoping for an equitable trade for both of us ASAP
 

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Hey Guys,

Hoping I can add some thought and insight with this post. Personally, I would be devastated to lose Redden. Needless to say Beams is the better player. However, whilst saying that I would not incorporate Redden into the trade. The article has no substance to it IMO and is just throwing Redden's name there for the sake of it from my point of view. No source to suggest anything of substance.

I think that the clubs need to involve a third party. It is unlikely that either club will compromise. This makes the Greenwood option so logical to me. He replaces Beams immediately and you would get pick 5 and potentially later picks.

Both clubs are within their rights to be reluctant to part with a valuable member of their respective teams.
Your right. Can't wait to trade pick 23 we get from Melbourne for Harry and use it to trade for Greenwood.

Why would we help you guys out when we have other currency in for that trade? We would be really stupid.
 

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What did I say that was wrong?

I am not being malicious. I just want a good discussion.
Well over on your board I simply asked what if Rockliff or Hanley wanted out, what would you demand in a trade.
Next thing you know nearly a month ban for what the mod said was 'not contributing anything".
Well all you lions supporters keep saying the same shit and contributing jack...
 
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Does anyone think trying to upgrade our pick 5 to Melbourne's pick 3 would be a good idea.... Try and get Brayshaw maybe (if hine thinks he will be gone by 5)
We could work that into the lumumba trade somehow?
People thoughts?
 

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Hey Guys,

Hoping I can add some thought and insight with this post. Personally, I would be devastated to lose Redden. Needless to say Beams is the better player. However, whilst saying that I would not incorporate Redden into the trade. The article has no substance to it IMO and is just throwing Redden's name there for the sake of it from my point of view. No source to suggest anything of substance.

I think that the clubs need to involve a third party. It is unlikely that either club will compromise. This makes the Greenwood option so logical to me. He replaces Beams immediately and you would get pick 5 and potentially later picks.

Both clubs are within their rights to be reluctant to part with a valuable member of their respective teams.
Not an unreasonable post if you exclude Greenwood bit for the reasons already mentioned.

Question for you, would you be as devo losing Rich as you'd be with Redden?
 

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I see I am far from welcome. It would have been great to have a good discussion, a bit of shame.
Of course you are welcome but as the Club has said we want a fair deal and I'm pretty sure we will get that.

As you said you would be devastated if Redden left well I felt exactly the same way until Beamsy decided to go. the pub instead of the Best & Fairest.......Do you get my point?
 

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Not an unreasonable post if you exclude Greenwood bit for the reasons already mentioned.

Question for you, would you be as devo losing Rich as you'd be with Redden?
Absolutely, both players have been there from the beginning of the rebuild and are both integral parts of our team. Rich is a magnificent kick who provides incredible delivery and Redden is a contested king and does a lot of the inside work. In 2013 Redden's inside work was a reason why we remained competitive and player well IMO.

EDIT: If Collingwood was to get either player they would be very close to breaking even IMO.
 

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What did I say that was wrong?

I am not being malicious. I just want a good discussion.
Hi mate. I don't think you said anything wrong. I think most Pies fans are getting frustrated hearing about Brisbane's untouchables, and your post about getting a three way for Greenwood touched a sore point, as many see Greenwood as Lumumba's replacement.

I feel for Brisbane fans in a way. Pies fans have certainty in who they are losing, while the Lions fans don't which can make it harder to accept that a sacrifice is going to have to be made to get the deal done.

It doesn't help in this situation that we have been visited by many Lions fans insisting that should accept pick 5 or pick 5 and a fringe player and arguing quite rudely why that is all Beams is worth. And many have started out as you have making fans skeptical and touché.

I'm happy to have the discussion if you want though. I think the calibre of Reddden paired with pick 5 is around the mark. If you don't want to trade Redden, who would you suggest that would be around the same in terms of quality that you would part with?
 

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Absolutely, both players have been there from the beginning of the rebuild and are both integral parts of our team. Rich is a magnificent kick who provides incredible delivery and Redden is a contested king and does a lot of the inside work. In 2013 Redden's inside work was a reason why we remained competitive and player well IMO.
You are one of the better brisbane posters.
 
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