2014 Non-Crows AFL Discussion

[Cleric]

We may never make the 8 again.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

It just makes me think of this....

Ah yes, the dodgy brothers

Just need to photoshop the ex-Fat Controller & Hirdy...

At the end of the day, I think both will be out of the AFL because of this saga & that is a good thing

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

We may never make the 8 again.

There is more chance of AFC making the 8, than you "supporting" AFC...

 

[DD#23]

There is more chance of AFC making the 8, than you "supporting" AFC...

pretty sure he's just following the "we'll be punished because there are ex-Crows at the Bombers" joke...

not that he doesn't have good form for "supporting" however

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

You are doubly screwed. They're also talking about Carlton and Trigg is there.

2 years for Bock and another 2 for anything Carlton did. You lot will cop a minimum of 4 years worth of sanctions.

Don't get too cocky. Perhaps we'll see all the GC coaching staff at the time hit with similar Dean Bailey-like bans!!

 

[*PAF]

Don't get too cocky. Perhaps we'll see all the GC coaching staff at the time hit with similar Dean Bailey-like bans!!

No chance uncle Vlad loves us.







Oh shit he's gone hasn't he.

 

[tinman]

The players have been poorly represented IMO, by lawyers paid for by essendon. Which means there is hopeless conflict of interest. The players should have gone out and got their own legal representation - lawyers that would make decisions based on the best interests of the players, not the club.

Essendon could not have one player accept a deal, because it then leaves them open to legal suits against them for failing to provide a safe work place.

Jenny this is one area that has me absolutely scratching my head. Why would the players trust the club that has put them through this, and can't even tell them what they were injected with?

I know I'm a bit older and wiser, but I'd be demanding the club fund independent legal advice and representation for me if I was in this position. Is any lawyer provided by the club going to be acting in the club's best interest, or mine? I don't think that's too difficult a question to answer.

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

What role is the AFLPA playing in this?

Why haven't they provided legal representation for the players?

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

What role is the AFLPA playing in this?

Why haven't they provided legal representation for the players?

The aflpa has been very poor through this saga.

Would think a union would be concerned about a regular injection program of supplements not passed fit for human consumption... Yet they have been more concerned with less relevant issues.

Thought part of their role was to protect the players welfare...

 

[cmndstab]

It was them that advised the players to offer no response to the show cause notices, right?

I know nothing about this process but that seems like a poorly advised cause of action to me.

 

[Elite Crow]

I'm suprised this hasn't rated a mention, Under 15s get in for free to Sunday Melbourne games. Only Melbourne, is this a National Competition or not?

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

I wonder if any players at other clubs would take issue with the AFLPA and their money being used to defend drug cheats? I wouldn't be too happy about it.

 

[jenny61_99]

I'm suprised this hasn't rated a mention, Under 15s get in for free to Sunday Melbourne games. Only Melbourne, is this a National Competition or not?

If you buy a family ticket in Brisbane, the kids are free anyway.

 

[Jumbo]

I'm suprised this hasn't rated a mention, Under 15s get in for free to Sunday Melbourne games. Only Melbourne, is this a National Competition or not?

Probably because not too many games on Sundays in Melbourne sell out but here (now) and in WA it would be pretty common.

 

[Elite Crow]

Probably because not too many games on Sundays in Melbourne sell out but here (now) and in WA it would be pretty common.

So we get penalised because we go to the footy? Were Port kids allowed in for free when playing in front of tarps?

 

[*PAF]

So we get penalised because we go to the footy? Were Port kids allowed in for free when playing in front of tarps?

If they were on the field and playing why not?

 

[Cleric]

There is more chance of AFC making the 8, than you "supporting" AFC...

Theres more chance that we will make the 8 than you stop drinking the club koolaid.

 

[Mike Smyth]

This case will decide whose got the biggest balls. I'm betting WADA.

Its going to be interesting to see what happens here. If the lame duck AFL hands down weak sentenses the minimal credibility it has left will be completely eroded in alot of peoples eyes.

 

[Mike Smyth]

I'm suprised this hasn't rated a mention, Under 15s get in for free to Sunday Melbourne games. Only Melbourne, is this a National Competition or not?

I don't think anyone outside of Melbourne, apart from Sydney, truly believes this is a national competition.

 

[cmndstab]

So we get penalised because we go to the footy? Were Port kids allowed in for free when playing in front of tarps?

It's because football in Melbourne is suffering a massive crowd slump. They're trying to get people going again and one way to build up numbers is to get kids hooked - then you get their parents or friends coming as well.

No point doing it in Adelaide, our games were selling out anyway. It's not "penalising" us. If they started giving seats away the clubs would earn less money and there would be less seats available for other people who want to go.

 

[Elite Crow]

It's because football in Melbourne is suffering a massive crowd slump. They're trying to get people going again and one way to build up numbers is to get kids hooked - then you get their parents or friends coming as well.

No point doing it in Adelaide, our games were selling out anyway. It's not "penalising" us. If they started giving seats away the clubs would earn less money and there would be less seats available for other people who want to go.

When you are giving something away to one group and not the other, of course the group that has to pay for it is being penalised. It doesn't matter what the rationale is.

 

[mattymac]

This league is so amateurish and ad hoc it's embarrassing

 

[cmndstab]

When you are giving something away to one group and not the other, of course the group that has to pay for it is being penalised. It doesn't matter what the rationale is.

It's not about rationale.

If they made it free for under 15s to attend the stadium in Adelaide all it would mean would be instead of having a full stadium full of paying customers you'd have a full stadium with some customers not paying. They'd fill the stadium either way.

It's not a "penalty".

 

[Elite Crow]

It's not about rationale.

If they made it free for under 15s to attend the stadium in Adelaide all it would mean would be instead of having a full stadium full of paying customers you'd have a full stadium with some customers not paying. They'd fill the stadium either way.

It's not a "penalty".

Ok Stabby, you and I walk into a shop. You pay for your bread, I get given it for free. Have we been treated equally? Have you been treated unfairly?

 

[cmndstab]

Ok Stabby, you and I walk into a shop. You pay for your bread, I get given it for free. Have we been treated equally? Have you been treated unfairly?

I've been treated unfairly. Of course, this analogy has no relation to the situation we're talking about here.